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  • Re: Apple II's and networking

    From Roger Johnstone@rojaws@ihug.co.nz to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 00:06:40
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    In <20030726181232.05067.00000587@mb-m26.aol.com> JWolf6589 wrote:

    1. Can an Apple II connect to a PC Network, or a macintosh network?
    I have a feeling that he would be only able to connect to pre OSX Macs. Macs using TCP/ip as a network standard OS 9.x or higher over the
    standard Appletalk (68K macs).

    An Apple II can still connect to a Mac running OS X. However, the
    AppleTalk protocol is turned off for file sharing by default. To enable
    it: run NetInfo Manager in the Utilities folder, select config/ AppleFileServer, set use_appletalk to 1 and restart file sharing.

    This lets the Apple II read files from the Mac fine. Writing files with
    a resource is broken though, because Apple reused one of the bytes that
    had been used for storing info about Apple II forked files.

    2. OSX does not support ProDOS, what is going to happen with Apple II emulation?

    Nothing different. While being able to mount a disk image or floppy disk
    in the Finder is useful, there are plenty of ways around it. For
    instance, use a program like ADFS, or use Bernie in which you can drag
    files from the IIgs Finder running in a Bernie window to the Mac Finder,
    and vice versa. MS-DOS, Windows and UNIX don't support ProDOS either,
    but no one has problems running emulators in those operating systems.

    --
    Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand

    Apple II - FutureCop:LAPD - iMac Game Wizard http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rojaws/ ________________________________________________________________________
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  • From crucifyself03@crucifyself03@aol.comnojunk (Crucifyself03) to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 01:46:27
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    OSX uses the 3 digit extensions, as I understand the Apple II does. But the standard Mac OS does not. Does one need to rename mac files to 3 digit extensions when giving an OSX user a floppy or other removable disk?

    Some files you just do not know the extensions. Will they open fine under OSX?

    << An Apple II can still connect to a Mac running OS X. However, the
    AppleTalk protocol is turned off for file sharing by default. To enable
    it: run NetInfo Manager in the Utilities folder, select config/ AppleFileServer, set use_appletalk to 1 and restart file sharing.




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  • From Roger Johnstone@rojaws@ihug.co.nz to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 06:41:07
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    In <20030726214627.20330.00000829@mb-m29.aol.com> Crucifyself03 wrote:

    OSX uses the 3 digit extensions, as I understand the Apple II does.
    But the standard Mac OS does not.

    The Apple II doesn't normally use filename extensions, it stores the
    file type in the directory like the Mac OS traditionally does. However,
    these get lost easily when a file is transferred via a non-Apple system
    like a PC disk or the Interent, so filename extensions are often added.

    On the IIgs it is possible to make a Finder icon file which matches by
    name or by file type. For instance, ShrinkIt has an icon file which
    matches files which end in .shk or .sdk, or files with a type of $E0/
    $8002 no matter what their name is, so the Finder knows that these files belong to ShrinkIt, even if they don't have the file type set properly.

    On the Mac however, before OS X, there is no way to match a filename
    extension to a file type in the Mac Finder. When a file is copied from a
    PC disk it's up to PC Exchange to look at the filename extension and
    give the file the correct file type, and when a file is downloaded
    Internat Config does the same thing, but the Finder itself can't do it.

    Does one need to rename mac files
    to 3 digit extensions when giving an OSX user a floppy or other
    removable disk?

    Some files you just do not know the extensions. Will they open fine
    under OSX?

    There is no need to rename them for OS X. In OS X the Finder first uses
    the file type stored in the directory, and if it doesn't exist it then
    uses any filename extension.

    --
    Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand

    Apple II - FutureCop:LAPD - iMac Game Wizard http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rojaws/ ________________________________________________________________________

    "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with
    the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that
    won't last out the year."

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