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The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the other;
you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

Sorry,

Michael Pender

John Syer <jsyer@labyrinth.net.au> wrote in message news:bbst2p$1ll0$1@arachne.labyrinth.net.au...

Hi all,
I have just resurected my Base48 (Apple IIe clone) and found that my entire collection of 5.25" floppies have passed on. I remember in the

past

one of my apple user friends booted his machine via the cassette in (and a tape player). Has anyone thought of connecting the audio output of a Mac

or

PC to the cassette input of the Apple II and sending instructions that

way?

I do not have a serial card for the Apple so I cannot get an operating system to the machine using ADT.

If this has not been done, I would be interested in exploring the possibilities although I would need an image of dos3.3 or prodos, and information about the cassette interface.

Kind regards,
John Syer (jsyerNO@SPAMlabyrinth.net.au)
[remove the NO SPAM from my email address]

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In article <QetMa.9236$JY1.7045@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Michael Pender <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote:

The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an >argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE >commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the other; >you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

I disagree. I think both work. print chr$(4);"load xxx" invokes the disk access. load (without the print chr$(4)) invokes the monitor cassette
access. If I remember correctly (and it gets harder everyday, but I meet
lots of new people :-)) one can do both disk and cassette load/save in one
pgm (basic or assem). load/save doesn't get replaced, the calling
sequence determines which is used.

$0.02

--Steve
--

--Steve (apple2pd@ground.ecn.uiowa.edu)


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In article <QetMa.9236$JY1.7045@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Michael Pender <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote:

The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an >argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE >commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the other; >you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

Not true. Under DOS 3.3 "LOAD" and "SAVE" with no file name still access
the tape.

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of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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"Michael Pender" <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<QetMa.9236$JY1.7045@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...

The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the other; you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

Sorry,

Michael Pender

Not quite!

Try ":LOAD" or ":SAVE".

-uso.
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Matthew Russotto <russotto@grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message news:XTydnULv-_efYp-iXTWc-w@speakeasy.net...

In article <QetMa.9236$JY1.7045@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Michael Pender <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote:

The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an >argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE >commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the

other;

you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

Not true. Under DOS 3.3 "LOAD" and "SAVE" with no file name still access
the tape.

Perhaps they 'should' work; but they didn't back in the day. Although I did notice a later post that suggests using ':load' or ':save' -- that might
work.

DOS 3.3 and ProDOS both intercept the entire command line when the word
'LOAD' or 'SAVE' is typed in immediate mode.

Sorry, but I'm pretty sure what I stated originally is correct--I remember trying it.

- Mike


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"Michael Pender" <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:dRMMa.12953$JY1.10709@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...

Matthew Russotto <russotto@grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message news:XTydnULv-_efYp-iXTWc-w@speakeasy.net...

In article <QetMa.9236$JY1.7045@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Michael Pender <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote:

The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an >argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE >commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the

other;

you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

Not true. Under DOS 3.3 "LOAD" and "SAVE" with no file name still access the tape.

Perhaps they 'should' work; but they didn't back in the day. Although I did notice a later post that suggests using ':load' or ':save' -- that might work.

DOS 3.3 and ProDOS both intercept the entire command line when the word 'LOAD' or 'SAVE' is typed in immediate mode.

Sorry, but I'm pretty sure what I stated originally is correct--I remember trying it.

- Mike

Just to add a little more confusion to this thread, there are also monitor commands for accessing a tape. For saving a range of memory "{start}.{end}W" and for loading "{start}.{end}R". There was also a way to make the program on the tape "auto run" when it was loaded but I'll be darned if I remember what it was.

Charlie



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Seems like I just read a post about this, so I apoligize if this has been answered.

There is another way ... there is something like ADT which uses (forget which), the joystick port or cassette (think it's the joysteck). Search

this

newsground via google if you can't find it. A fellow just posted something about it.

I think it starts with A2222?????, and is found "near" ADT on either

Ground

or Asimov. I saw it long ago before I decided to buy a serial card. You

have

to make a cable but what the hay.

It's http://garberstreet.netfirms.com/AppleCD/ap2222pc.zip
and is now on my web site's download page. Click link above.
Good Luck!

Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprises };-)
Web Site - http://garberstreet.netfirms.com
Email - willy46pa@comcast.net



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ground.ecn AppleII Librarian <apple2pd@ground.ecn.uiowa.edu> wrote in
message news:bdusvl$1pi$1@server05.icaen.uiowa.edu...

In article <QetMa.9236$JY1.7045@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Michael Pender <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote:

The cassette interface uses the 'LOAD' and 'SAVE' commands (without an >argument) to load and save programs from cassette.

The DOS 3.3 and ProDOS operating systems both 'replace' the LOAD and SAVE >commands to access the disk device. You'll need to chose one or the

other;

you can have either cassette access or disk access, but not both.

I disagree. I think both work. print chr$(4);"load xxx" invokes the disk access. load (without the print chr$(4)) invokes the monitor cassette access. If I remember correctly (and it gets harder everyday, but I meet lots of new people :-)) one can do both disk and cassette load/save in one pgm (basic or assem). load/save doesn't get replaced, the calling
sequence determines which is used.

$0.02

It sounds like the trick in 'immediate' mode is to avoid the DOS 3.3
intercept routine by making it into an AppleSoft command, i.e.:

] LOAD Doesn't work

versus

] :LOAD Works

In 'run' mode:

100 print chr$(4)"LOAD" Doesn't work

versus

100 LOAD Works

Nifty.

- Mike


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