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would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut Creek CD ROM Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further arrangements can be made here or email.


--
Woodzy

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un-official webring )




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sorry, guys, didn't realize my other post thru tera news went thru.



"*ProteanThread*" <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote in message news:nbnZc.68948$JG7.12760@hydra.nntpserver.com...

would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut Creek CD

ROM

Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further arrangements can be

made

here or email.

--
Woodzy

http://www.rtdos.com (alt OS for games based on the classics) http://s.webring.com/hub?ring=shareware54com ( alt.comp.shareware un-official webring )

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In article <nbnZc.68948$JG7.12760@hydra.nntpserver.com>,
*ProteanThread* <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote:

would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut
Creek CD ROM Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further
arrangements can be made here or email.

"A" cd.

When WalnutCreek was online on the original form - cdrom.com - they
had close to 500GB of disk space in use. Thats going to be
about 700 CDs. Care to be more specific as to WHAT you are looking
for.

--
Woodzy

http://www.rtdos.com (alt OS for games based on the classics) >http://s.webring.com/hub?ring=shareware54com ( alt.comp.shareware >un-official webring )

--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:I3F3Dy.EI@wjv.com...

In article <nbnZc.68948$JG7.12760@hydra.nntpserver.com>,
*ProteanThread* <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote:

would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut
Creek CD ROM Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further >arrangements can be made here or email.

"A" cd.

When WalnutCreek was online on the original form - cdrom.com - they
had close to 500GB of disk space in use. Thats going to be
about 700 CDs. Care to be more specific as to WHAT you are looking
for.

the cpm and atari st / amiga cd's :-) damn that sux that they had to
"close" what happened to them ?



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"*ProteanThread*" <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote in message

When WalnutCreek was online on the original form - cdrom.com - they
had close to 500GB of disk space in use. Thats going to be
about 700 CDs. Care to be more specific as to WHAT you are looking
for.

the cpm and atari st / amiga cd's :-) damn that sux that they had to
"close" what happened to them ?

The Creek dried up.

Seriously, the Internet killed off the CD-ROM library biz about the same way
it killed the BBS's that used them for file base resources.


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"Sean Fahey" <a2fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<tnIZc.8134$Ij5.1991@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>...

When WalnutCreek was online on the original form - cdrom.com - they
had close to 500GB of disk space in use. Thats going to be
about 700 CDs. Care to be more specific as to WHAT you are looking
for.

the cpm and atari st / amiga cd's :-) damn that sux that they had to "close" what happened to them ?

The Creek dried up.

Seriously, the Internet killed off the CD-ROM library biz about the same way it killed the BBS's that used them for file base resources.

No it's not the Internet which killed the CD-ROMs libraries, but the
faster and faster connections. The AminetCD existed until 2002, and
people with modem connections were happily buying it, since it was
much cheaper for them to buy the CD than to download hundreds of
megabytes of software. But now when almost everyone have access to
broadband connections, buying CD archives makes no sense, although
there is a plus in owning old archives - if you are looking for an
older version of a program, which is not available on the net anymore,
since it was replaced by a newer version - a CD-ROM archive is the
best place to look. Also the the CD versions contained some
excommercial software bundled as a plus.

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In article <xkHZc.94061$JG7.16303@hydra.nntpserver.com>,
*ProteanThread* <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote:

"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:I3F3Dy.EI@wjv.com...

In article <nbnZc.68948$JG7.12760@hydra.nntpserver.com>,
*ProteanThread* <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote:

would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut
Creek CD ROM Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further
arrangements can be made here or email.

"A" cd.

When WalnutCreek was online on the original form - cdrom.com - they
had close to 500GB of disk space in use. Thats going to be
about 700 CDs. Care to be more specific as to WHAT you are looking
for.

the cpm and atari st / amiga cd's :-) damn that sux that they had to
"close" what happened to them ?

Wind River bought the BSDI, Walnut Creek, and <I forget the name of the
HW vendor - Tel?? something - that build rack mount servers> group.

WindRiver builds embedded systems and based a lot on BSDI and they
bought that group to get some proprietary things from what I
undestand. Wind River has recently moved to Linux. They appear
to be quite large in the embedded worlds. See their site.

At the time of sale the FreeBSD archives were move to a site
in Denmark owned/operated by the Danish telephone company and
everything was much faster than on the T3 that WC had. The BSDI
resources went to WindRiver. The HW company was spun off. Jordan
Hubbard, who had gotten the FreeBSD movement going after Jolitz
seemed to give up, left the FreeBSD group and Walnut Creek and
became the head of the BSD part of the Apple OS/X.

Walnut Creek was also cdrom.com. All [or at least most] of those
archives were moved to Simtel. I'm having a problem getting a
brower up on that site at the moment, and it could be that it is an
ancient brower as my MS machine is maxed out at the moment on
a 4 hour DVD encoding process.

But give www.cdrom.com a try to see if the resources are there.

It seems that nothing that was ever available on the net truly goes
away. You might slog through google if cdrom.com or Simtel
don't give you any results.


Bill

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Bill Vermillion wrote:

WindRiver builds embedded systems and based a lot on BSDI and they
bought that group to get some proprietary things from what I
undestand. Wind River has recently moved to Linux. They appear
to be quite large in the embedded worlds. See their site.

More likely WR bought them to hedge their bets on the march of free *nix systems into the high-end embedded market. I don't think it worked for
them. The best part of WR's wasted money is that it moved lots of BSDI developers into the FreeBSD camp.

Kelly
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Kelly Hall <khall@acm.org> wrote in message news:<uS9_c.11364$QJ3.5596@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...

Bill Vermillion wrote:

WindRiver builds embedded systems and based a lot on BSDI and they
bought that group to get some proprietary things from what I
undestand. Wind River has recently moved to Linux. They appear
to be quite large in the embedded worlds. See their site.

More likely WR bought them to hedge their bets on the march of free *nix systems into the high-end embedded market. I don't think it worked for them. The best part of WR's wasted money is that it moved lots of BSDI developers into the FreeBSD camp.

Kelly

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I have a large library of Amiga CD's. Maybe we can arrange something.
Was there a particular Walnut Creek "Amiga CD" of interest?
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there is a copy up for bidding on ebay.com.au at the moment
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Bill Vermillion wrote:

WindRiver builds embedded systems and based a lot on BSDI and they
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undestand. Wind River has recently moved to Linux. They appear
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More likely WR bought them to hedge their bets on the march of free *nix
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Kelly

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I have a large library of Amiga CD's. Maybe we can arrange something.
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"Amiga4k" <wishbringer2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ce80d94e.0409061923.4a21028@posting.google.com...

I have a large library of Amiga CD's. Maybe we can arrange something.
Was there a particular Walnut Creek "Amiga CD" of interest?

wasn't there a programming / programmers cd ?


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"Ventzislav Tzvetkov" <drhirudo@mail.bg> wrote in message news:10573339.0409022203.58ee77e9@posting.google.com...

"Sean Fahey" <a2fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<tnIZc.8134$Ij5.1991@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>...

Seriously, the Internet killed off the CD-ROM library biz about the same

way

it killed the BBS's that used them for file base resources.

No it's not the Internet which killed the CD-ROMs libraries, but the
faster and faster connections. The AminetCD existed until 2002, and

You might be talking about whats killing independent (small time)
publisher's of library CDs TODAY, I'm talking about what killed Walnut Creek and the other big publishers in the United States. Thats how the thread started.

As someone who used to be in the library publishing business, and also
helped run one of the midwest's (USA) largest file boards to ever exist (24 Pioneer 18 disc changers online) - I know I gave the correct answer. We published/pressed and promoted hundreds of titles including all of Walnut Creek's line - and we knew who our biggest buying crowd was -- BBS operators were the largest consumer of discs by a huge margin. The average small time
BBS SysOp would buy 2 to 5 discs at a time, larger operators would buy 10 or
20 a month - depended on what was coming out and if they were on our subscription plan or not. At out peak, we had hundreds of subscription customers - sales were good during the early to mid 90's.

Sales of library discs fell off dramatically as the BBS scene got replaced
by more and more people switching to the Internet. Eventually, it wasn't cost-effective to press discs either in the US or Canada (which was cheaper)
as shareware and freeware authors were distributing their apps on the
Internet. Thats when a lot of publishers switched to porn distribution (and
at which time, I got out) because that was the only content that had money
left in it. The guy I used to work with is still in the business, albeit he doesn't press discs anymore - he sends everything over the net to his customers. He makes 6 figures a year distributing porno contenet to web site operators, many of whom are our former BBS SysOps that adapted from BBSing -
I chose not to participate in that industry.

Besides, it's only been in the last 3 years that broadband has gained sufficient momentum in the USA that new BB customers are out-subscribing dialups. During the dot.com bomb, broadband subscriptions languished. And sadly, BB access in the US isn't universal yet - and where it is, we pay on
the average $45 for a 1.5-3Mbps connection, whereas Korean, Japanese and
many European customers can get 10-30Mbps for about $25.


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I've aquired a copy of the walnut creek cd rom called libris bitannia If
youre able to setup an ftp server I'd be happy to send it it is over 600
megs in size which will be no problem to me as I have a fast cable
connection but in the past I've tried un sucessfully to set up a server and only got my computer attacked. I really dont want to try it again "*ProteanThread*" <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote in message news:nbnZc.68948$JG7.12760@hydra.nntpserver.com...

would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut Creek CD
ROM
Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further arrangements can be
made
here or email.

--
Woodzy

http://www.rtdos.com (alt OS for games based on the classics) http://s.webring.com/hub?ring=shareware54com ( alt.comp.shareware un-official webring )

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email me and i'll setup a pw to upload to my ftp site (i think there is
enough room) and keep it up for a few daze



"GARTH" <garthelder@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:41515f91$0$23896$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

I've aquired a copy of the walnut creek cd rom called libris bitannia If youre able to setup an ftp server I'd be happy to send it it is over 600
megs in size which will be no problem to me as I have a fast cable
connection but in the past I've tried un sucessfully to set up a server

and

only got my computer attacked. I really dont want to try it again "*ProteanThread*" <rtdos@rtdos.com> wrote in message news:nbnZc.68948$JG7.12760@hydra.nntpserver.com...

would anyone mind sending me either an ISO or CD of the Walnut Creek CD
ROM
Archive (and or MSDOS if they've got it) - further arrangements can be
made
here or email.

--
Woodzy

http://www.rtdos.com (alt OS for games based on the classics) http://s.webring.com/hub?ring=shareware54com ( alt.comp.shareware un-official webring )

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