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    From google_news@google_news@google_news.absol.com (Rob) to comp.sys.apple2 on Thursday, July 17, 2003 15:16:25
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    Would anyone here have any suggestions for how to efficiently and effectively transfer applesoft basic programs and pascal text files to a UNIX computer?

    Among my apple collection are working machines with super serial cards and
    some not quite ever made to work scsi controllers; and plus, e, gs, and even a c model.

    I have some useful software in both applesoft and pascal format that I've never managed to properly upload to a server back when I still remembered how to run file transfer software. I seem to remember that one file transfer system knew how to read dos, pascal, and prodost formatted filesystems.

    Some of the applesoft programs have very long lines which have been a problem in
    prior software upload attempts, or perhaps it was in my attempts to "list" out the files to a text file on the apple. For example I recall always using a "?" as a shorthand for "print" and thus cram lots of stuff on each line, but then when printing, each line could exceed whatever buffer was alotted...

    If I somehow transfer the applesoft files as binaries, has anyone ever produced a token parser that can run on them under UNIX? Even if not I remember an Apple II emulator circulating about 15 years ago I could probably use to some advantage...

    Really its one particular applesoft program of mine that was even referenced
    in a 1982 NY Times article that I'd like to recover... but there is also some good stuff in pascal.

    Please email any suggestions particularly if its no longer July 2003.

    Perhaps someone might have an ethernet card to rent or lend?
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  • From Andy McFadden@fadden@fadden.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Friday, July 18, 2003 01:02:09
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    Rob <google_news@google_news.absol.com> wrote:
    Would anyone here have any suggestions for how to efficiently and effectively transfer applesoft basic programs and pascal text files to a UNIX computer?

    There was a thread on this subject a week or two back. A quick summary:

    Under UNIX, you can use A2FID to transfer files and detokenize Applesoft
    programs from DOS disk images. Free, source code available.
    http://home.tiscali.se/pausch/apple2/dsk.html

    Under Windows, you can use CiderPress to transfer files and detokenize
    Applesoft from DOS, ProDOS, Pascal, CP/M, and RDOS disk images. Will
    convert Pascal text to plain text. Shareware, limited evaluation period.
    http://www.faddensoft.com/ciderpress/

    Under Windows, you can use FishWings to transfer files and detokenize
    Applesoft from DOS and ProDOS disks. Free.
    http://www3.bboard.com/charlied/FishwingsInfo.htm

    Under Mac OS, you can use ADFS to transfer files and detokenize Applesoft
    from DOS, ProDOS, Pascal, and CP/M disk images. Web pages does not
    mention Pascal text conversion. Free alpha evaluation.
    http://www.lazilong.com/apple_II/adfs/

    Under a Java VM, you can use Apple Commander to transfer files and
    detokenize Applesoft from DOS, ProDOS, Pascal, and RDOS disk images.
    The web page does not mention Pascal text. Free.
    http://applecommander.sourceforge.net/

    I recommend CiderPress, but I have a slight bias. :-)

    Some of the applesoft programs have very long lines which have been a problem in
    prior software upload attempts, or perhaps it was in my attempts to "list" out
    the files to a text file on the apple. For example I recall always using a "?"
    as a shorthand for "print" and thus cram lots of stuff on each line, but then when printing, each line could exceed whatever buffer was alotted...

    Next time "POKE 33,33" before listing into a text file. It avoids the
    line breakage. In the mean time, just use one of the above.

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  • From Michael Pender@mpender@hotmail.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Friday, July 18, 2003 02:13:00
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    Andy McFadden <fadden@fadden.com> wrote in message news:lGHRa.2730$dk4.130745@typhoon.sonic.net...

    Under Windows, you can use FishWings to transfer files and detokenize
    Applesoft from DOS and ProDOS disks. Free.
    http://www3.bboard.com/charlied/FishwingsInfo.htm


    I checked out Fish Wings because it is promoted as a graphic file viewer as well, but the only image I ever get is a big black rectangle of various dimensions when trying to view DHR, GIF, MAC PICs, etc.

    Can anyone recommend a good graphic viewer/translator?

    Side comment to Andy:

    Kudos on the Appleworks/text file translator in CiderPress!

    - Mike


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  • From Paul Schlyter@pausch.DO.NOT.SPAM.ME@stockholm.bostream.se to comp.sys.apple2 on Saturday, July 19, 2003 09:50:57
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    Rob wrote:

    Would anyone here have any suggestions for how to efficiently and effectively transfer applesoft basic programs and pascal text files to a UNIX computer?

    Among my apple collection are working machines with super serial cards and some not quite ever made to work scsi controllers; and plus, e, gs, and even a
    c model.

    I have some useful software in both applesoft and pascal format that I've never
    managed to properly upload to a server back when I still remembered how to run
    file transfer software. I seem to remember that one file transfer system knew
    how to read dos, pascal, and prodost formatted filesystems.

    Some of the applesoft programs have very long lines which have been a problem in
    prior software upload attempts, or perhaps it was in my attempts to "list" out
    the files to a text file on the apple. For example I recall always using a "?"
    as a shorthand for "print" and thus cram lots of stuff on each line, but then when printing, each line could exceed whatever buffer was alotted...

    If I somehow transfer the applesoft files as binaries, has anyone ever produced
    a token parser that can run on them under UNIX? Even if not I remember an Apple II emulator circulating about 15 years ago I could probably use to some advantage...

    Really its one particular applesoft program of mine that was even referenced in a 1982 NY Times article that I'd like to recover... but there is also some good stuff in pascal.

    If you only need to transfer a fairly small number of files, the easiest procedure
    would be to do this:

    Hook up your Apple II to your UNIX computer via a null modem serial
    cable. Run some
    software on the UNIX end which captures everything arriving on the
    serial line to
    a text file. Make sure the Apple and the UNIX end agrees on bit rate,
    parity, etc.

    To transfer an Applesoft file, do like this: boot Apple DOS, type
    PR#<n> where <n>
    is the slot number of your serial card. Then type LIST

    To transfer Pascal text files do this: boot Apple Pascal, and in the
    File Manager
    (or whatever it's called in that environment), choose TRANSFER, select
    the file
    you want to transfer, and choose the target as REMOUT: if your serial
    card is in
    slot 2, or PRINTER: if it's in slot 1 (you might need to type them as
    :REMOUT or
    :PRINTER though --- don't quite remember since it was so long I did this myself).

    Finally, close your capture file at the UNIX end and edit it the way you
    want it.


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