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  • Re: Punter Protocol for PC?

    From Sam Gillett@samgillett@msn.com to comp.sys.cbm,alt.c64 on Thursday, July 03, 2003 01:49:57
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    Rick Youngman wrote ...

    The Punter protocal that Sam is talking about works GREAT with the old
    Qmodem Terminal program... the other terms I didn't ever use it , because I >was a Qmodem user..... but I used it many, many, many times in the "old" >days to call C=ommodore BBs, and transfer "true" binary files to my old 286

    I'll have to confess that I am a Qmodem user too. But, even Qmodem (for
    DOS) is starting to show its age. I still use it on a 166 Mhz machine. But Z-modem is useless on a 2 Ghz machine. Guess I'll have to break down and
    try Qmodem Pro for Windows.

    ( my C=64 was busy running the BB's 24 - 7 at the time ) and then would
    use it again to upload the files to the BBs.... ( this was before the
    X-1541 cables and Star Commander and stuff ) and modem to modem was the >only way to do that stuff, cause all the stuff we use now was just being >developed and was very buggy.

    Wish I had a dollar for every file I transferred modem to modem in the old days. I could take a Caribbean cruise, first class yet! ;-)

    Even though the Punter (4 the PC ) protocal worked very good with Qmodem , >it still would crash sometimes. If you really want to make sure you get >EVERY bit of information when going modem-to-modem between two different OS >computers, then use Xmodem to do it..... it's slow --- it's old
    fashioned --- but it is the standard protocal of all times..... and the >error checking is the best....... (thats why its so slow )

    Just don't forget to strip the X-modem padding on the Commodore end. Many
    C64 and C128 files won't run with the X-modem padding present. (You know
    that Rick. I just added it for other readers.)

    Best regards,

    Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
    Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!





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  • From Rick Youngman@wlbbs@citlink.net to comp.sys.cbm,alt.c64 on Friday, July 04, 2003 17:57:18
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    Sam,

    Contact Tim Knight ( he hangs around here too )

    He has Qmodem Pro for DOS and WINDOZE already zipped and might send it
    to you if you ask nice.... ( I know because he bought the old WasteLand
    BBs system and it's in the data base ).... and they are ( were ??? ) "registered" versions too.

    You will have no luck AT ALL with Mustang Software , trying to get
    Qmodem Pro from them.... they abandon that eon's ago.

    ==== Which brings up another point..... see my post "don't it pee ya off
    ?"

    Anyway.... contact Tim, he may have the only working copy left in the
    world that is zipped and ready....

    I still have the original floppies for Qpro for dos and windoze, but I
    don't have a PC up that has a 5 1/4 drive that works.... but if all
    else fails , contact me....

    Rick

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  • From Sam Gillett@samgillett@msn.com to comp.sys.cbm,alt.c64 on Saturday, July 05, 2003 05:35:27
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    Rick Youngman wrote ...

    Sam,

    Contact Tim Knight ( he hangs around here too )

    He has Qmodem Pro for DOS and WINDOZE already zipped and might send it

    Thanks for the info. I think I can find it on a local BBS that runs the Windows version of Wildcat!, which was also from Mustang. Right now the BBS
    is only open to Fidonet activity. I'll try it tomorrow.

    Best regards,

    Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
    Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!





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  • From White Flame \(aka David Holz\)@whiteflame52@y.a.h.o.o.com to comp.sys.cbm,alt.c64 on Saturday, July 05, 2003 06:32:21
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    "Rick Youngman" <wlbbs@citlink.net> wrote in message news:3F06226E.47801958@citlink.net...
    I still have the original floppies for Qpro for dos and windoze, but I
    don't have a PC up that has a 5 1/4 drive that works....

    Got access to a C= machine with Big Blue Reader? That would solve it, too.

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    (spamblock in effect)



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  • From fritzr@fritzr@dc4pc.net (Fritz Reinders) to comp.sys.cbm,alt.c64 on Saturday, July 05, 2003 06:44:12
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    still would crash sometimes. If you really want to make sure you get EVERY bit
    of information when going modem-to-modem between two different OS computers , then use Xmodem to do it..... it's slow --- it's old fashioned --- but it is the
    standard protocal of all times..... and the error checking is the best.......
    (thats why its so slow )


    For the most universal File transfer with very high reliability, C-64
    version & currently supported go with Kermit.

    Kermit Home page
    http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/

    Commodore 64/128 version
    http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/c64.html


    If you can use DOS term programs with the version of Windows you are using, the link Jim Lawless provided could be the answer to your problem:

    http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/commprog/

    Download the file PUNTR104.ZIP as it is an external Punter protocol that can
    be used with most of the old (early 90's) DOS terms that support external protocols, such as Telix, Qmodem, and ProTerm.

    Best regards,

    Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
    Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!

    There is a later version of Punter for MS-DOS. Punter v2.03 http://www.censor.net/newdesign/tools/ http://www.sentry.org/~trev/opus/173files/PUNTER23.ZIP
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