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  • Should Dizzy Return?

    From weetomuncher@weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk (Weetomuncher) to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 05, 2003 15:37:25
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike
    their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?
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  • From Flavio \@flavioREMOVE@ffbg.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 01:10:40
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    It's definitely a "YES" from me :)

    A Dizzy fan from childhood,


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  • From Gav@gav@spagbowl.big.jobs to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 01:52:10
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    Thought the 'latest' was that there's still legal wranglings between the
    codies and Blitz Games (owned by the Oliver Twins) over the rights
    to Dizzy.

    The fact that Dizzy isn't too well known in the states compared to the
    UK might not make it that much of a moneyspinner on name-alone.

    Gav.

    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:28e19b30.0307051437.5401bdf6@posting.google.com...
    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike
    their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:58:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike
    their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?

    If you want Dizzy for your Windoze PC then write it yourself, don't come
    cry back to me when you discover it's plays like Crap.

    I will not subscribe to your suggestion.

    Ross.


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  • From tayles_100@tayles_100@yahoo.com (Tayles) to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 01:57:39
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk (Weetomuncher) wrote in message news:<28e19b30.0307051437.5401bdf6@posting.google.com>...
    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike
    their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?


    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 20:37:40
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message...

    If you want Dizzy for your Windoze PC then write it yourself, don't
    come cry back to me when you discover it's plays like Crap.

    I will not subscribe to your suggestion.

    FOD.

    If you can't be constructive, keep your whining to yourself. It was a
    legitimate
    question.

    Not here it isn't. This is off-topic. If you don't like old computer systems then nick off to your Windows/Linux/psx/whatever.


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  • From Peter Thomas@see-my-sig@hotmail.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:46:33
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:37:40 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    If you want Dizzy for your Windoze PC then write it yourself, don't
    come cry back to me when you discover it's plays like Crap.
    I will not subscribe to your suggestion.
    FOD.
    If you can't be constructive, keep your whining to yourself. It was a >legitimate
    question.
    Not here it isn't. This is off-topic.

    Let's see... a thread about a character that appeared in a long series
    of commercial games released for the Sinclair ZX Spectrum, Commodore
    64 and the Amstrad CPC...

    Sounds pretty on-topic to me.

    If you don't like old computer systems
    then nick off to your Windows/Linux/psx/whatever.

    As you hate and despite all modern computers, maybe you can tell me
    about this...

    X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600

    Obviously you've ported it to a 1979 VAX/VMS machine or something,
    because you would certainly never touch a modern PC, right? :)

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  • From Steppe@steppe_not_for@spam_demodungeon.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 13:56:56
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    To me this thread is just another "Hey, I have an idea to start another
    thread! I don't care if the question is stupid or off-topic, but hey - let's post it anyway!"

    It's just another pointless discussion to me: Either you can brush up an old game yourself, because you're a visionary and creative programmer, or you
    just stick to the original. IMHO 8bit games are supposed to be played on the original platform (or on the emulator, if necessary).

    Just my two cents...

    /Steppe


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  • From Mike Lee@mldl21624@blueyonder.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 13:27:14
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Yes why not..........

    Or will the final decision be left to all those whining winging expert know
    it all's......


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    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:28e19b30.0307051437.5401bdf6@posting.google.com...
    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike
    their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?


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  • From Dunny@paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 13:39:32
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Ross Simpson wrote:

    "Tayles" <tayles_100@yahoo.com> wrote in message...

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it
    be what people are looking for?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Glad to see you're on my side! :-)

    Hehe - Tayles hates Dizzy, not remakes (to my uncertain knowledge) :)

    Seriously, there's nothing wrong with remaking a game for a new platform. See the recent Cybernoid 2 game (complete with remade c64 music) for an example of a
    game that plays silky smooth on a windows platform. Or the totally classic remake of Skool Daze for DOS.

    It's definitely on-topic - we're discussing 8bit games. If you're going to be pedantic, you're going to flame anyone that suggests playing games on emulators too. After all, that's just a mechanism for playing old games on windows/linux/psx/whatever too.

    Or do you just exercise double standards like most of the ill-informed <insert your chosen platform here> haters?

    <ross simpson>
    Hey all, let's ban (or remove to windows related groups) all emulation talk! </ross simpson>

    D.



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  • From Flavio \@flavioREMOVE@ffbg.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 15:42:12
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    There are of course some dross remakes too - I downloaded that Bubble
    Bobble Nostalgie game recently and although the DirectDraw graphics are
    very nice and smooth, the music's been changed and there are a couple of other subtle things that mean it just isn't The Same Game.

    I remember being addict to the original Bubble Bubble for the IBM (1990?).
    It was huge fun! :)

    Flavio



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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 06, 2003 23:43:01
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message...

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it
    be what people are looking for?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Glad to see you're on my side! :-)

    Hehe - Tayles hates Dizzy, not remakes (to my uncertain knowledge) :)

    I'll just make sure to feature all future games I've written with an
    egg shaped character! :-)

    Seriously, there's nothing wrong with remaking a game for a new platform.
    See
    the recent Cybernoid 2 game (complete with remade c64 music) for an
    example of a
    game that plays silky smooth on a windows platform. Or the totally classic remake of Skool Daze for DOS.

    Whatever the programmer is happy using... I just don't want to hear about
    the
    Skool Daze game in here! I'll keep on the ol' Cybernoid 2 game if you don't mind.

    It's definitely on-topic - we're discussing 8bit games. If you're going to
    be
    pedantic, you're going to flame anyone that suggests playing games on
    emulators
    too. After all, that's just a mechanism for playing old games on windows/linux/psx/whatever too.

    Here perhaps. I cannot complain to the state of the use of Emulators, I
    believe
    they have every right being here. It's just that if we're going to start talking
    about all the classic remakes (for other systems) in these groups then it's just
    not on.

    Or do you just exercise double standards like most of the ill-informed
    <insert
    your chosen platform here> haters?

    <ross simpson>
    Hey all, let's ban (or remove to windows related groups) all emulation
    talk!
    </ross simpson>

    Why do you think that. Here my problem, I don't have any issues towards discusions
    about these machines as long as it's of benefit or interest for people who
    are
    fond of them. If they use emulators, then obviously talking about them is of
    no
    concern to me. Then there are programs/utilities as such for various
    platforms
    designed to be of benefit or interest to people interested. But if someone starts
    writing it by saying, 'Hello, I wish to take my favourite game - Dizzy &
    update
    it for <insert OS here>', then I'd ask myself, how's that going to help?
    More
    people will just stop supporting these machines. Well that's the way I look
    at it,
    may sound pretty stupid for everyone reading this! :-(

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From Richard Wilson@rich@bitwise-systems.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 07, 2003 09:34:46
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Never liked Dizzy much in the first place. Can't really see why I'd be interested in a remake.

    What I'd like to see is remakes for the original platform (especially
    the CPC) with improved graphics/scrolling/music etc.

    I'd like to see someone take some of those awful Speccy clones on the
    CPC, and take the time to do proper CPC conversions, or even CPC Plus
    versions.

    Richard
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  • From sentinel@sentinel@graffitti.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 17:08:08
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    bah, humbug? who would cry to you? dont play it then, it can be worse than
    the new shite thats out now. scrooge.

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    http://dizzypetition.members.easyspace.com/
    Bring Back that Loveable EGG!



    "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message news:3f0782b1$0$729$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?

    If you want Dizzy for your Windoze PC then write it yourself, don't come
    cry back to me when you discover it's plays like Crap.

    I will not subscribe to your suggestion.

    Ross.





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  • From crackfiend@alexcleak@NODAMNSPAM.ukonline.co.uk.SPAMTRAP to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 17:26:03
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm


    "sentinel" <sentinel@graffitti.net> quacked:
    Dizzy is not as well known, but he is known enough. plus new games come
    out
    all the time with characters no one has heard of and plenty of people pick them up. the dizzys on genesis/megadrive, game gear, mjaster system, and
    nes
    did VERY well, especially Fantastic Dizzy,a great percentage of people i speak to here in the USA remember Dizzy, and C64 users here who go on C64 sites have become familiarized with non US games, as well as Timex users visiting spectrum sites, including dizzy. many i speak to here remember
    Dizzy as that egg on the NES, "what did you think of it?", id ask ... "i thought it was great! one of my favourite games" ... so i wouldnt worry
    much. also if the box were to say "Dizzy Returns in an all new adventure" people will think "returns? i never knew about him. what/when else was it on?" ... no i dont think it will be a problem.

    Personally, i'm not too fond of the dizzy games, they're playable enough,
    but they just get too irritating too quickly for me.

    I'd rather see the return of Wally Week and have an updated version of Pyjamarama or another of the series. Or perhaps even Jack the
    Nipper....hmm....


    Crack.....


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  • From sentinel@sentinel@graffitti.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 17:26:55
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    no one is going to stop supporting these machines even if Dizzy appeared on
    the Pc, PS2, xbox, whatever .. ha, do you really think it would stop the Russian programmers turning up 2 or 3 dizzy games on average like they have been every year? heh, i think not! ;) it wont ever stop.

    and if the olivers were t make a dizzy for modern systems how does that
    effect the current state of supporting older systems?

    http://www.cronosoft.co.uk to name but one out of many, which include people who give their software for free.

    do you think if they didnt make a dizzy for the ps2 or whatever they are
    going to do it for the spectrum? , err, no, m'kay? new software for old
    micros is up to "us", no big ass company is going to do it. also, they,
    Oliver Twins, make no fuss about poeple making their own dizzy games, they
    are fine with it ... even if they do make a commercial one under Blitz
    games.

    i think if anything it will create nostalgia in people and make them want to goto their favourite 8-bit/16-bit and fire up an oldy dizzy, and those who
    dont know the egg that can fall from the moon and not crack his ass wide
    open will get interested and may just make them aware of his birth on the speccy introducing them to a world of they didnt know existed, maybe becasue they are too young, and who knows, many may like it and get into it. ive
    seen it happen... and with dizzy oddly enough!

    cheers and beers


    kind regards Ross!

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    http://dizzypetition.members.easyspace.com/
    Bring Back that Loveable EGG!

    [..]
    writing it by saying, 'Hello, I wish to take my favourite game - Dizzy & update
    it for <insert OS here>', then I'd ask myself, how's that going to help?
    More
    people will just stop supporting these machines. Well that's the way I
    look
    at it,
    may sound pretty stupid for everyone reading this! :-(

    Cheers,
    Ross.





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  • From crackfiend@alexcleak@NODAMNSPAM.ukonline.co.uk.SPAMTRAP to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 17:41:44
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm


    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:28e19b30.0307051437.5401bdf6@posting.google.com...
    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy
    series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike
    their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be
    what people are looking for?

    How about a remake, or a new, Magic Knight game? That's a truly great series
    of games.

    Crack.....


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  • From sentinel@sentinel@graffitti.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 17:54:38
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    okay friend, to each his own, but lots of people would want dizzy, you could find out who owns the rights to your favourite games and start your own petition, if you can b bothered. cheers.


    http://dizzypetition.members.easyspace.com/
    Bring Back that Loveable EGG!



    "crackfiend" <alexcleak@NODAMNSPAM.ukonline.co.uk.SPAMTRAP> wrote in message news:beeurb$aoo$1@titan.btinternet.com...

    "sentinel" <sentinel@graffitti.net> quacked:
    Dizzy is not as well known, but he is known enough. plus new games come
    out
    all the time with characters no one has heard of and plenty of people
    pick
    them up. the dizzys on genesis/megadrive, game gear, mjaster system, and
    nes
    did VERY well, especially Fantastic Dizzy,a great percentage of people i speak to here in the USA remember Dizzy, and C64 users here who go on
    C64
    sites have become familiarized with non US games, as well as Timex users visiting spectrum sites, including dizzy. many i speak to here remember Dizzy as that egg on the NES, "what did you think of it?", id ask ... "i thought it was great! one of my favourite games" ... so i wouldnt worry much. also if the box were to say "Dizzy Returns in an all new
    adventure"
    people will think "returns? i never knew about him. what/when else was
    it
    on?" ... no i dont think it will be a problem.

    Personally, i'm not too fond of the dizzy games, they're playable enough,
    but they just get too irritating too quickly for me.

    I'd rather see the return of Wally Week and have an updated version of Pyjamarama or another of the series. Or perhaps even Jack the Nipper....hmm....


    Crack.....





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  • From sentinel@sentinel@graffitti.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 17:56:01
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    err, "it can'T be worse than the new shite thats out now." damn typos.

    regards, Ross.


    http://dizzypetition.members.easyspace.com/
    Bring Back that Loveable EGG!
    "sentinel" <sentinel@graffitti.net> wrote in message news:YTCOa.34367$C83.2885794@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
    bah, humbug? who would cry to you? dont play it then, it can be worse than the new shite thats out now. scrooge.

    --




    http://dizzypetition.members.easyspace.com/
    Bring Back that Loveable EGG!



    "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message news:3f0782b1$0$729$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    I thought that this would be a good question to ask the 8 bit
    community as most of us grew up (or got a bit older!) with the Dizzy series and it is much missed by many of us!

    Do you think Codemasters are making a mistake as many people would
    enjoy a well designed and programmed platform puzzler and almost all
    of the Codies output in recent times have been polished quality unlike their old 'hit and miss' policy!

    I think nostaliga alone would shift a new Dizzy title but could it be what people are looking for?

    If you want Dizzy for your Windoze PC then write it yourself, don't come cry back to me when you discover it's plays like Crap.

    I will not subscribe to your suggestion.

    Ross.








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  • From Anders Carlsson@anders.carlsson@mds.mdh.se to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 20:15:14
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    "crackfiend" <alexcleak@NODAMNSPAM.ukonline.co.uk.SPAMTRAP> writes:

    I'd rather see the return of Wally Week and have an updated
    version of Pyjamarama or another of the series. Or perhaps
    even Jack the Nipper....hmm....

    Jack the Nipper ought to be a teenage hooligan by now, right?
    I'd suggest Jumpman Jr Jr, Pitfall III or a new Nebulus. By
    the way, didn't Paul Norman (Cosmi) recently release or at
    least announce a remake of Forbidden Forest?

    --
    Anders Carlsson
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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 09:57:14
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "sentinel" <sentinel@graffitti.net> wrote in message...

    no one is going to stop supporting these machines even if Dizzy appeared
    on
    the Pc, PS2, xbox, whatever .. ha, do you really think it would stop the Russian programmers turning up 2 or 3 dizzy games on average like they
    have
    been every year? heh, i think not! ;) it wont ever stop.

    and if the olivers were t make a dizzy for modern systems how does that effect the current state of supporting older systems?

    Probably wouldn't effect our community as much. But there is a large
    community of people who want to see the old games come back for their
    modern OSes. Well there's not much I can do about it!

    Still, it would be a horror to have future generations of people asking
    you what the point was behind all these earlier machines.

    Ross.


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  • From Richard Wilson@rich@bitwise-systems.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:47:50
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Ross Simpson wrote:

    i agree though abou the cpc dizzy games ( adventure ones ) look like crap, they look way better on the c64 and spectrum, but my FAVOURITE 8bit
    version
    of crystal kingdom dizzy is on the CPC, its not a port like the others and dizzy looks particularly cute in that one. its great on the CPC.

    I wasn't actually implying that the Dizzy games were Spectrum ports, and
    in fact I don't think they are. They were probably written for and on
    the CPC in the first place, and I don't think the graphics are too bad.

    I was referring to such dire monochrome crap as Bionic Commandos, Enduro
    Racer (at least this one is quite playable) etc etc.

    Cheers,
    Richard
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  • From Flavio \@flavioREMOVE@ffbg.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Thursday, July 10, 2003 14:17:08
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    I wasn't actually implying that the Dizzy games were Spectrum ports, and
    in fact I don't think they are. They were probably written for and on
    the CPC in the first place, and I don't think the graphics are too bad.

    I remember some reviews on Zzap! (Italy) that implied the fact that Dizzy
    games on the C64 were sort of Spectrum emulations on the CBM. I disagree, anyway. What's wrong with them? Dizzy games were not intended as super graphical games.

    Flavio


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Friday, July 11, 2003 20:36:19
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    "Richard Wilson" <rich@bitwise-systems.com> wrote in message...

    i agree though abou the cpc dizzy games ( adventure ones ) look like
    crap,
    they look way better on the c64 and spectrum, but my FAVOURITE 8bit
    version
    of crystal kingdom dizzy is on the CPC, its not a port like the others
    and
    dizzy looks particularly cute in that one. its great on the CPC.

    I wasn't actually implying that the Dizzy games were Spectrum ports, and
    in fact I don't think they are. They were probably written for and on
    the CPC in the first place, and I don't think the graphics are too bad.

    No, well I've seen the graphics in Dizzy III (Fantasy World) for both
    Amstrad
    as well as Spectrum & I thought it looks quite simular.

    I was referring to such dire monochrome crap as Bionic Commandos, Enduro Racer (at least this one is quite playable) etc etc.

    Well I'm an idiot for saying this, but I don't mind some of the graphics in Bionic Commandos. The sprites look shocking there (I'll agree to that), but
    the background graphics I didn't think were too bad!


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  • From amigo@amigo@nada.no to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 21:31:50
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    Bring Back that Loveable EGG!


    "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message news:3f0e938f$0$26637$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

    "Richard Wilson" <rich@bitwise-systems.com> wrote in message...

    i agree though abou the cpc dizzy games ( adventure ones ) look like
    crap,
    they look way better on the c64 and spectrum, but my FAVOURITE 8bit
    version
    of crystal kingdom dizzy is on the CPC, its not a port like the
    others
    and
    dizzy looks particularly cute in that one. its great on the CPC.

    I wasn't actually implying that the Dizzy games were Spectrum ports, and
    in fact I don't think they are. They were probably written for and on
    the CPC in the first place, and I don't think the graphics are too bad.


    i dont think it was said you implied they were ports, but actually i do
    think most dizzy adventures were ports from the spectrum, that's what i
    recall. though i do know that the Olivers worked on on CPC, but how that shifted onto spectrum and then ported to the others, theyve told me all
    this, i dont remember.

    but the Dizzy font is an altered CPC font ( so Philip Oliver tells me ) and
    i think its quite nice, especialy for those fantasy games and other games
    ogf the sort, they have a real goblin/elf/whatever feel to them. it's been ripped off enough, lots of games that came out afterwards use it, abadia del crimen, TMHT, and lots of others.

    No, well I've seen the graphics in Dizzy III (Fantasy World) for both
    Amstrad
    as well as Spectrum & I thought it looks quite simular.



    well, yea, the "graphics" are the same, on the c64 , spectrum and cpc too,
    ( except the dizzy's eyes look kinda creepy on the c64 - and most if not all
    on the c64 had a border with graphics around the play area, which was a nic touch ) but not the colour. the c64 and spectrum versions were more
    colourful while they didnt seem to really give much care to that aspect in
    the CPC versions, and not just with fantasy world dizzy but with ALL
    excluding Crystal Kingdom which is different on each, c64 and spectrum being +/- similar but on C64 combined hi and low res graphics and the cpc one was done from scratch and looks very different.

    the arcade games is another thing. graphics are different on the spectrum
    and identical on C64 and CPC , and i particularly like Kwik Snax on C64 - because it was different than the other versions ( + being a good game )
    and giving us two versions of Kwik Snax that are different games, not that
    i like the others less but i like that they there are two different games,
    for variety ( but why they made it a different on C64 i dont know ) and the rest of the arcade games look identical on C64 and CPC ( except maybe one on CPC but i dont recall which one, maybe Panic? which looks like Spectrum with the same 3 or 4 colours the CPC dizzy adv.s had ... but i could be wrong i havent had my dizzy website in years and have been focusing more on other things lately - but ill always love that egg - 'specially scrambled on some buttered toast :-X )


    "Flavio "Senesino" FBG" <flavioREMOVE@ffbg.net> wrote in message news:bejl9o$5tk9c$4@ID-118982.news.dfncis.de...
    I wasn't actually implying that the Dizzy games were Spectrum ports, and
    in fact I don't think they are. They were probably written for and on
    the CPC in the first place, and I don't think the graphics are too bad.

    I remember some reviews on Zzap! (Italy) that implied the fact that Dizzy games on the C64 were sort of Spectrum emulations on the CBM. I disagree, anyway. What's wrong with them? Dizzy games were not intended as super graphical games.

    Flavio

    Right, theyre not emulations, but ported.

    but i disagree with anyone who says Dizzy's graphics werent great. i think
    Neil Adamson was one of the best graphicians, his graphics were tight, good looking and gave the games a great atmmosphere. even Dizy's Loading screens
    are among the best. i think they are excellent. i also think alot of due
    credit was taken away from David Whitakker for his great compositions that
    fit the Dizzy games wonderfully and too much credit went to Matt Gray,
    Allister Brimble and whoever, they they may have done a good job with their renditions of the 48k tunes on the C64, but most came from the mind of David Whitakker who composed/created them. and the AY versions hold their own in
    my humble opinion.

    thanks.


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