• Re: Post your opinion... my two bits worth...

    From Sam Gillett@samgillett@msn.com to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.sinclair on Monday, July 07, 2003 02:45:45
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm


    Peter Thomas wrote ...

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:52:21 +1000, "Ross Simpson" ><Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    Anyone clearly posting software for Windows is clearly in the wrong place. >>People who just don't understand this should consult their ISPs to the
    bits they don't understand. The message sent here is quite clear, "You >>8bitters Suck, buy a real computer".

    I didn't see any message like that in Weetomuncher's post that started this thread. Ross must be paranoid.

    Er, what research have you done here?

    Weetomuncher is extremely fond of the old Speccy days. Have a look at
    his stuff in CSS. He talks more about old Speccy games than most of
    the regulars do. He has actually said he doesn't want to buy a Windows
    PC (and doesn't even use one, unlike you).

    How on earth could you reach the conclusion that Weeto is saying 8-bit
    fans suck and they should all buy "real" computers?

    (The ironic thing is that you seemed to have followed part of that
    thinking, as you're either posting from a PC or a Mac.)

    Ross needs to face facts. Most 8-bit fans, regardless of which 8-bit
    platform they are fond of, use a 32-bit computer. Some only at work, some
    at home, and most in both places.

    I bet if you were in control of the FAQs for the
    Sinclair/Commodore/Amstrad groups, you'd remove all the references to >emulators, as you despise people using anything more advanced.

    On the CBM side, we have a seperate newsgroup for emulators, comp.emulators.cbm, yet a little emulator talk is usually tolerated on comp.sys.cbm

    There are lots of Amiga newsgroups, but a little Amiga talk is usually tolerated as well. A world in which everyone had only one interest wouldn't
    be a very interesting world at all. I think the same holds true of
    newsgroups.

    Or any system. Windows is my example (since everything revolves around
    it). However, why "update" Rainbow Islands, Silkworm or Midnight >>Resistance when they work perfectly well on my computer?

    Your PC/Mac, or your Amstrad, do you mean? :)

    He must mean his Amstrad. After all, a purist like Ross wouldn't use
    anything else... or would he? (see his headers)

    Maybe
    it's some VAX lover (guess what? There's a newgroup for VAX users!)

    I'll have to check it out and flame anyone who dares use a non-Vax
    machine, while doing so from my non-Vax machine, so I can be like you.

    I have a better idea. Lets all flame everyone who isn't using a Cray. We
    can all get in on the fun. And all be equally guilty of hypocrisy! ;-)

    Just my two cents worth... or two pence... or whatever. :-)

    Best regards,

    Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
    Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!






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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.sinclair on Monday, July 07, 2003 14:57:55
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm


    "Sam Gillett" <samgillett@msn.com> wrote in message...

    Anyone clearly posting software for Windows is clearly in the wrong
    place.
    People who just don't understand this should consult their ISPs to the >>bits they don't understand. The message sent here is quite clear, "You >>8bitters Suck, buy a real computer".

    I didn't see any message like that in Weetomuncher's post that started
    this
    thread. Ross must be paranoid.

    Darn straight, I'm paranoid. I've seen no evidence that 8bit games have been updated. If they are, then it could be for the worse. If someone wants to
    take an absolute joke like Count Duckula 2 & update it, then I'd understand
    but Rainbow Islands, Midnight Resistance & Silkworm? Another one mentioned (which I've yet to try) is SWIV, I don't know if it's good or what. ST
    Dragon
    I'm not sure about, some say it's brillant & others have said it's rubbish because it's too easy.

    Er, what research have you done here?

    Weetomuncher is extremely fond of the old Speccy days. Have a look at
    his stuff in CSS. He talks more about old Speccy games than most of
    the regulars do. He has actually said he doesn't want to buy a Windows
    PC (and doesn't even use one, unlike you).

    How on earth could you reach the conclusion that Weeto is saying 8-bit
    fans suck and they should all buy "real" computers?

    (The ironic thing is that you seemed to have followed part of that >thinking, as you're either posting from a PC or a Mac.)

    Ross needs to face facts. Most 8-bit fans, regardless of which 8-bit platform they are fond of, use a 32-bit computer. Some only at work, some
    at home, and most in both places.

    This is why I've initially thought that this was the case of someone posting some messages saying that we're going to take some good games & update them.

    I bet if you were in control of the FAQs for the
    Sinclair/Commodore/Amstrad groups, you'd remove all the references to >emulators, as you despise people using anything more advanced.

    On the CBM side, we have a seperate newsgroup for emulators, comp.emulators.cbm, yet a little emulator talk is usually tolerated on comp.sys.cbm

    We do all this kind of thing in one newsgroup (comp.sys.amstrad.8bit).
    There are no real emulator groups setup for the Amstrad, but I don't see
    this as a worry because I think it's of benefit to the machine.

    There are lots of Amiga newsgroups, but a little Amiga talk is usually tolerated as well. A world in which everyone had only one interest
    wouldn't
    be a very interesting world at all. I think the same holds true of newsgroups.

    Your PC/Mac, or your Amstrad, do you mean? :)

    He must mean his Amstrad. After all, a purist like Ross wouldn't use anything else... or would he? (see his headers)

    Anything else is illrevelant here!

    I'll have to check it out and flame anyone who dares use a non-Vax
    machine, while doing so from my non-Vax machine, so I can be like you.

    I have a better idea. Lets all flame everyone who isn't using a Cray. We can all get in on the fun. And all be equally guilty of hypocrisy! ;-)

    You'll need to setup a newsgroup to do that!

    Ross.


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  • From Peter Thomas@see-my-sig@hotmail.com to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.sinclair on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 01:20:34
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:57:55 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    Anyone clearly posting software for Windows is clearly in the wrong >place.
    People who just don't understand this should consult their ISPs to the
    bits they don't understand. The message sent here is quite clear, "You
    8bitters Suck, buy a real computer".
    I didn't see any message like that in Weetomuncher's post that started
    this
    thread. Ross must be paranoid.
    Darn straight, I'm paranoid. I've seen no evidence that 8bit games have been >updated.

    Here you have gone straight from being David Icke, to being the
    Information Minister of comp.sys.amstrad.8bit!

    "There are no remakes of 8 bits games, the infidels are wrong I tell
    you!"

    If they are, then it could be for the worse. If someone wants to
    take an absolute joke like Count Duckula 2 & update it, then I'd understand >but Rainbow Islands, Midnight Resistance & Silkworm?

    My favourite game of all time is a 1984 Spectrum title called Chaos. I
    have used/owned all kinds of platforms over the years:

    VAX/VMS
    BBC
    Acorn Electron
    Atari 2600
    Intellivision
    ColecoVision
    Spectrum
    Amstrad
    Commodore
    Sam Coupe
    Sega Master System
    NES
    Sega Mega Drive aka Genesis
    Super Nintendo
    MS-DOS
    Atari ST
    Amiga
    Nintendo Gameboy
    Playstation
    Windows
    Linux
    Mac OS
    Playstation 2
    X-Box

    ...and I know that Chaos can still be improved upon.

    As can ANY Amstrad game you mention. After all, a
    Windows/Linux/Mac/RISC/Amiga remake can potentially offer far more
    colours, better sound, etc, to improve the game.

    Er, what research have you done here?
    Weetomuncher is extremely fond of the old Speccy days. Have a look at
    his stuff in CSS. He talks more about old Speccy games than most of
    the regulars do. He has actually said he doesn't want to buy a Windows
    PC (and doesn't even use one, unlike you).
    How on earth could you reach the conclusion that Weeto is saying 8-bit
    fans suck and they should all buy "real" computers?
    (The ironic thing is that you seemed to have followed part of that
    thinking, as you're either posting from a PC or a Mac.)
    Ross needs to face facts. Most 8-bit fans, regardless of which 8-bit
    platform they are fond of, use a 32-bit computer. Some only at work, some >> at home, and most in both places.
    This is why I've initially thought that this was the case of someone posting >some messages saying that we're going to take some good games & update them.

    And it's only you who has a problem with that.

    What's wrong with making a good game better?

    I bet if you were in control of the FAQs for the
    Sinclair/Commodore/Amstrad groups, you'd remove all the references to
    emulators, as you despise people using anything more advanced.
    On the CBM side, we have a seperate newsgroup for emulators,
    comp.emulators.cbm, yet a little emulator talk is usually tolerated on
    comp.sys.cbm
    We do all this kind of thing in one newsgroup (comp.sys.amstrad.8bit).
    There are no real emulator groups setup for the Amstrad, but I don't see
    this as a worry because I think it's of benefit to the machine.

    B-b-but!!! They're using EVIL PCs with EVIL Microsoft on them!!! We
    should kill all Windows users immediately, oh and also the Linux users
    (usually anti-Microsoft anyway) because that's modern too, and you
    don't like modern platforms!

    Your PC/Mac, or your Amstrad, do you mean? :)
    He must mean his Amstrad. After all, a purist like Ross wouldn't use
    anything else... or would he? (see his headers)
    Anything else is illrevelant here!

    Ah, moving the goalposts IU see.

    I'll have to check it out and flame anyone who dares use a non-Vax
    machine, while doing so from my non-Vax machine, so I can be like you.
    I have a better idea. Lets all flame everyone who isn't using a Cray. We >> can all get in on the fun. And all be equally guilty of hypocrisy! ;-) >You'll need to setup a newsgroup to do that!

    Like this one?...
    news://comp.unix.cray

    Or maybe...
    news://han.sys.cray

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  • From spike1@spike1@freenet.co.uk to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.sinclair on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 23:38:09
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Ross Simpson <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> did eloquently scribble:

    "Sam Gillett" <samgillett@msn.com> wrote in message...

    Anyone clearly posting software for Windows is clearly in the wrong
    place.
    People who just don't understand this should consult their ISPs to the
    bits they don't understand. The message sent here is quite clear, "You
    8bitters Suck, buy a real computer".

    I didn't see any message like that in Weetomuncher's post that started
    this
    thread. Ross must be paranoid.

    Darn straight, I'm paranoid. I've seen no evidence that 8bit games have been updated.

    Then you've not looked very hard.
    tower toppler (nebulus) is one of the better ones.
    There's a whole SITE dedicated to remaking speccy games, called retrospec.
    I'd suggest you learn to know what you're talking about before continuing.


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  • From spike1@spike1@freenet.co.uk to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.sinclair on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:02:58
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Ross Simpson <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> did eloquently scribble:
    <spike1@freenet.co.uk> wrote in message...

    Darn straight, I'm paranoid. I've seen no evidence that 8bit games have
    been
    updated.

    Then you've not looked very hard.
    tower toppler (nebulus) is one of the better ones.

    I've got Tower Toppler on my 7800, it certainally is no remake because it looks identical to Nebulus.

    That's the definition of REMAKE...
    it's not an "update" it's a "REMAKE". There's a difference.

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  • From Dale Richards@mail@dalerichards.co.uk to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.sinclair on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:35:23
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Sam Gillett said this:

    Just my two cents worth... or two pence... or whatever. :-)

    Cents. UP THE EURO!![1]



    - Dale

    [1]At the risk of starting more arguments. :)


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