what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze
?
I used Delphi for about two years before I got an ISP that handled
tcp/ip. But, I don't remember what my ID was. With a version of Linux available for most older computers such as TRS80, Commodor etc, there
is no need for the old type of ISP.
I used Delphi for about two years before I got an ISP that handledof
tcp/ip. But, I don't remember what my ID was. With a version of Linux available for most older computers such as TRS80, Commodor etc, there is
no need for the old type of ISP.
pogi
*ProteanThread* wrote:
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out
dazecuriosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
?
Ken harbit <krh03@cvip.net> writes:
I used Delphi for about two years before I got an ISP that handled
tcp/ip. But, I don't remember what my ID was. With a version of Linux available for most older computers such as TRS80, Commodor etc, there
is no need for the old type of ISP.
There is Linux for the TRS80?
News to me. Got any info on that?
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out
of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the
old daze ?
"Ken harbit" <krh03@cvip.net> wrote in message news:KMizc.26348$Yd3.5098@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
I used Delphi for about two years before I got an ISP that handled
tcp/ip. But, I don't remember what my ID was. With a version of Linux available for most older computers such as TRS80, Commodor etc, there is
no need for the old type of ISP.
pogi
*ProteanThread* wrote:of
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out
dazecuriosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
?
There is a version of Linux for TRS80 ? Where ? ;~D
dazewhat do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of >curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
?
I was on Genie for years and had the same handle I do now, Gamer.
Yes, I would subscribe to something similar like Genie if there
were enough Atarians interested. It was fun and I enjoyed it much.
There was lot of information passed around and I love the
downloading of files. It is something I miss now along with a lot
of other things.
--
Edward S. Baiz Jr.
(Gamer)
could this help bring people back into the fold ? (get more peopleinvolved
in retro style computing) ?your
dial up and / or internet access (meaning you can access it still from
old 8 bit comp or thru telnet or directly thru a webpage) ?
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
daze ?
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"*ProteanThread*" <os65000 at yahoo dot com> wrote:
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out
curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
daze ?
I held an account on Delphi, GEnie, Compuserve, Portal, AmericanPeopleLink
(Plink), ProtoCall, Bix, and something in Massachusetts called ModemCity.'stepped
My first CIS ID was 72057,435 but I don't recall the second, later one. Generally on most of the others I used 'cooky' as my user ID and / or nick when possible. I don't recall that being the case on GEnie or ModemCity, though.
I do recall being fascinated by archie and gopher when they were made available through Delphi's 'Internet Portal' - and annoyed by CIS'
speed' differentials: $6.00 / hour for 300 / 450 bps, $12.00 for 1200 and $24.00 an hour for 2400 access.cable
It didn't keep me from using the faster speeds when I had the hardware, though.
I think a non-GUI service would be useful, especially with many end-users subscribing to broadband service.
Many folks run Telnet-based BBS systems from their home networks over
or DSL lines; a service geared to a larger audience could, I think, be successful.
- --
Ron n1zhi
roncook@verizon.net
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"Javier Henderson" <javier@KJSL.COM> wrote in message news:86r7simb6x.fsf@skylane.kjsl.com...a
Ken harbit <krh03@cvip.net> writes:
I used Delphi for about two years before I got an ISP that handled tcp/ip. But, I don't remember what my ID was. With a version of Linux available for most older computers such as TRS80, Commodor etc, there
is no need for the old type of ISP.
There is Linux for the TRS80?
News to me. Got any info on that?
Considering the hardware requirements for a minimal Linux system that is
very unlikely. Even the embedded versions of Linux for really small appliances (like uClinux) are way too demanding for the old 8-bitters. He
is probably talking about a Unix like OS for those computers. If TCP/IP connectivity is what you are looking for for your favorite 8-bitter, take
look at Contiki: http://www.sics.se/~adam/contiki/
--
Peter van Merkerk
peter.van.merkerk(at)dse.nl
My first online experience was Compuserve. I spent very little time on itin
fact because it was my dads account he signed up for when he bought ourand
model 3. Back then online time in the evenings was around $10.00 an hour
I remember our logon actually involved a mastercard number (my dads).up
He actually kept the number taped to the modem for convenience 8-). It was kind of hard for me to relax and enjoy the service knowing it was ringing
a credit card bill that I would eventually be confronted with, but in hindsight now I think I should've used it more than I did. After all we're only kids once!computer
I do remember plunking around with the CB program (chat) and downloading a space shuttle liftoff simulation to the daisy wheel printer. I also downloaded a 3 foot ascii nude of Farah to the printer and I hung it on my bedroom wall. My mom wasn't sure if she should compliment me on my
skills or if it should be thrown away and I should be grounded for a week.offering
As for Contiki, I've been the nay sayer on that for a while because in
theory it's a good idea, but in reality it still involves expensive rs232-ethernet converters and from what I understand it uses all of the computers resources to the point that there's nothing left to do anything with (i.e. memory).
I still say that there should be a shell based subscription service
dialup gateways to the net for vintage machines.
Rambling,
Mo
"*ProteanThread*" <sysop@rtdos.com> wrote in message news:c61905fbc5a1e9a33de74da94f12589f@news.teranews.com...be
could this help bring people back into the fold ? (get more peopleinvolved
in retro style computing) ?
dial up and / or internet access (meaning you can access it still fromyour
old 8 bit comp or thru telnet or directly thru a webpage) ?
Considering that LD now is 5 cents to 0.5 cents / minutes, dial up might
a go.
NM
and it'd be a good way to have a portable email address that isn't necessarily web based like hotmail or yahoo.
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze
?
GEnie did have a GUI for the Commodore 64 and 128, it was called Wizard. Output was still text based, and in reality, the gui send text based shortcuts to the GEnie servers, but it was point and click.
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of >curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze
?
"*ProteanThread*" <sysop@rtdos.com> wrote in message news:444ca54f646b09bd0a2f1cc348a83845@news.teranews.com...
and it'd be a good way to have a portable email address that isn't necessarily web based like hotmail or yahoo.
Hotpop.com is a better way.
NM
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of >curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze
?
In article <vuSdnb-yUL_WN1Dd4p2dnA@bresnan.com>,daze
*ProteanThread* <status@rtdos.info> wrote:
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of >curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
?
You had 'compuserve' in the subject, and I remeber being on it
before it was called Compuserve. It was then called MicroNet.
When I joined there were about 3000 and it was only running after
6PM when H&R Block didn't need the computers.
You'd login at a prompt of a DEC-10 and type run mnet80 - to get
to the first SIG on MicroNet - written by Richard Taylor of TRS 80
Opera fame - in Fortran.
We had a TRS80 group that was moved over from the Source when the
totally crashed the Source trying to bring a second Prime computer
on line.
It was down totally for one day and when it came I've seen
computers that were turned off that were faster.
That was all email, sort of a predecesor to mailing lists, and
after the changeove sometimes we could wait 5 minutes for a
response to our commands.
My ID on MicroNet was 212,207214 [If I rememeber correctly]
and on The Source it was TCB777.
There were under 3000 users on either system when I first logged
onto them - late 1979 or early 1980 as I recall.
I still have the MicroNet manuals somewhere.
The other ones I found interesting were BIX - Byte Information
Exchange and ??? [My mind is GOING] the thing from CDC that was
used in education heavily.
Bill
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
"Edward S. Baiz Jr." <edbaizjr@comcast.net> wrote in message >news:40cdc7102165b0@comcast.net...
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of >> >curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old >daze
?
I was on Genie for years and had the same handle I do now, Gamer.
Yes, I would subscribe to something similar like Genie if there
were enough Atarians interested. It was fun and I enjoyed it much.
There was lot of information passed around and I love the
downloading of files. It is something I miss now along with a lot
of other things.
--
Edward S. Baiz Jr.
(Gamer)
I know I would, but does anyone think that ppl would be willing to pay, say, >$4.95 or $9.95 a month for text only internet access (like the good old
days, except no hourly charges) ?
My ID on MicroNet was 212,207214 [If I rememeber correctly]
and on The Source it was TCB777.
The other ones I found interesting were BIX - Byte Information Exchange
and ??? [My mind is GOING] the thing from CDC that was used in education heavily.
Bill
what do you remember about them ?
what was your handle ?
and, just out of
curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze?
I know I would, but does anyone think that ppl would be willing to pay, say, $4.95 or $9.95 a month for text only internet access (like the good old
days, except no hourly charges) ? it would have to be enough to cover at least costs without running into the red (at least break even)
or maybe basic text only html tags (meaning no GUI or audio / video) for use in a program like lynx (text only dos web browser but similiar idea for the classics) ?
how active do you think it would be or could be or should be to be justified ?
could this help bring people back into the fold ? (get more people involved in retro style computing) ?
dial up and / or internet access (meaning you can access it still from your old 8 bit comp or thru telnet or directly thru a webpage) ?
does anyone still have their delphi, genie, or compuserve manuals ? ( just throwing out ideas and in return collecting ideas )
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the olddaze
?
Dial-up would be great for my Commodore (unlimited long-distance
helps quite a bit).
"Neil Morrison" <nowrite@to.me> wrote in message news:YDqzc.19144$lN.16686@edtnps84...
"*ProteanThread*" <sysop@rtdos.com> wrote in message >>news:444ca54f646b09bd0a2f1cc348a83845@news.teranews.com...
and it'd be a good way to have a portable email address that isn't >>>necessarily web based like hotmail or yahoo.
Hotpop.com is a better way.
NM
yea, but its not really retro themed. :o)
You had 'compuserve' in the subject, and I remeber being on it
before it was called Compuserve. It was then called MicroNet.
When I joined there were about 3000 and it was only running after
6PM when H&R Block didn't need the computers.
You'd login at a prompt of a DEC-10 and type run mnet80 - to get
to the first SIG on MicroNet - written by Richard Taylor of TRS 80
Opera fame - in Fortran.
In article <HzC0J0.665@wjv.com>, Bill Vermillion <bv@wjv.com> wrote:
You had 'compuserve' in the subject, and I remeber being on it
before it was called Compuserve. It was then called MicroNet.
When I joined there were about 3000 and it was only running after
6PM when H&R Block didn't need the computers.
You'd login at a prompt of a DEC-10 and type run mnet80 - to get
to the first SIG on MicroNet - written by Richard Taylor of TRS 80
Opera fame - in Fortran.
There's a little thread in alt.sys.pdp10 at the moment trying to
figure out how CIS did their setup. I imagine they were all KL10s by
that point. One machine with account info and then you were farmed to >different ones as you changed conferences? How were the disks shared?
There are theories that things like CB were done through the front
ends. Anybody know more?
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:HzC0J0.665@wjv.com...
In article <vuSdnb-yUL_WN1Dd4p2dnA@bresnan.com>,
*ProteanThread* <status@rtdos.info> wrote:
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of >> >curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old >daze
?
You had 'compuserve' in the subject, and I remeber being on it
before it was called Compuserve. It was then called MicroNet.
When I joined there were about 3000 and it was only running after
6PM when H&R Block didn't need the computers.
You'd login at a prompt of a DEC-10 and type run mnet80 - to get
to the first SIG on MicroNet - written by Richard Taylor of TRS 80
Opera fame - in Fortran.
We had a TRS80 group that was moved over from the Source when the
totally crashed the Source trying to bring a second Prime computer
on line.
It was down totally for one day and when it came I've seen
computers that were turned off that were faster.
That was all email, sort of a predecesor to mailing lists, and
after the changeove sometimes we could wait 5 minutes for a
response to our commands.
My ID on MicroNet was 212,207214 [If I rememeber correctly]
and on The Source it was TCB777.
There were under 3000 users on either system when I first logged
onto them - late 1979 or early 1980 as I recall.
I still have the MicroNet manuals somewhere.
The other ones I found interesting were BIX - Byte Information
Exchange and ??? [My mind is GOING] the thing from CDC that was
used in education heavily.
Bill
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
*WOW* Now that really is retro!!!
"*ProteanThread*" <os65000 at yahoo dot com> wrote in message >news:vuSdnb-yUL_WN1Dd4p2dnA@bresnan.com...
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out ofdaze
curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
?
I think those services were better than the internet today, better for me >that is, because the general public and the advertisers and marketers
weren't there. We associated with others there with interests similar to >ours and those who didn't have the knowlege couldn't get in.
I'd love to be in that world again but the problem isn't that
CIS doesn't exist or that the text interface doesn't exist. The
problem is that that world no longer exists. Everybody can show
up. It's just not the same.
Is that snobbish? Yeah, I guess it is in a way. But I suspect
that most of you who were there know what I mean.
What, you're not using Contiki to surf the Web??? ;)
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what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze
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Robert Bernardo wrote:
Dial-up would be great for my Commodore (unlimited long-distance
helps quite a bit).
What, you're not using Contiki to surf the Web??? ;)
Regards,
Mark
What do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out
of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the
old daze ?
My BBS handle was "The Grand Rascal", and I *DO* subscribe to a "non-GUI" ISP, or more accurately an ISP that can handle non-GUI (it's a Unixdial-up
shell account), "Fox Valley Internet" by name. See them at "FVI.Net". :)_____
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what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out of curiosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old daze
In comp.sys.atari.8bit *ProteanThread* <os65000 at yahoo dot com> wrote:of
what do you remember about them ? what was your handle ? and, just out
dazecuriosity, would you subscribe to an ISP that was non-GUI like the old
I remember.. I was the Atari8bit SysOp on Delphi for a while there.. underthe
handle of "Kamaro Kid", if I recall. Man, was that a long time ago!selected because
No, I wouldnt subscribe to a non-GUI ISP.. although my current ISP was
they do provide Solaris/linux shell access (currently using "tin" to readnewsgroups)
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