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I'm a Commodore Disciple now! I even hold the sacred Commodore symbol in my Picture! :-)

Larry

Terminator wrote:

Not if your pic is not on:http://www.heechee.net/c64/gallery/
Kai Spitzley has maintained that link since 1996 if not earlier...
if you read the group at least 52 times a year then you should consider submitting
your pic there... ;-)
*coughs* the diciple list has remained flat, although there's more
regulars at comp.sys.cbm...

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Larry Anderson <larry@portcommodore.com> wrote in message news:<ba982c0db85928d3c069b94556eb5481@free.teranews.com>...

I'm a Commodore Disciple now! I even hold the sacred Commodore symbol in my Picture! :-)

That's very cool, but why aren't there any girls there ?? (Ok, Carissa
say is the only one, but I admit I haven't heard about her :-)

Is the C= community only for men ? and if yes, is that good ? (of
course it is) And what does it show about women ? (Yes, Jeri is not
quite usual, and I bet not many girls are like her in the computers
domain)




The Godfather
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And what does it show about women ?

Was it the girls' fault if they had not a C64? I don't think so.
Parents probably thought it was something for a boy, not a
girl. I would put the blame on them instead.

Flavio


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"Flavio \"Senesino\" FBG" <flavioREMOVE@ffbg.net> wrote in message news:<bdusml$10aojl$1@ID-118982.news.dfncis.de>...

And what does it show about women ?

Was it the girls' fault if they had not a C64? I don't think so.
Parents probably thought it was something for a boy, not a
girl. I would put the blame on them instead.

Flavio

That's a good question. Was a C64 bought only for boys, and girls
could enjoy it only if their brother had one ?

I don't know, but look at today's Hi-tech. Almost all the managers and
CEO's are men. There are of course women, but most of them aren't in
the technical doamin per se. I don't know if the parents are to blame,
but if I'll have a duaghter, a computer would be a must to have. (She
will probably take out all the pieces and put some dolls in it, but at
least I tried :-)


The Godfather.
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Bo Zimmerman wrote:
|Subject: Re: Are you a Commodore disciple?
|
|A noted American feminist, intent on liberating her newly born daughter
|from sexual stereotypes, insisted on purchasing only guns and action
|figures as toys. One day, while the still very young girl was bathing,
|the mother peeked in and saw a most disgusting sight: her daughter was |combing the "hair" of one of her action figures.
|
|No, women like Jeri are not just uncommon, they are SUPERNATURAL. We |Commodore geeks cannot possibly BE more blessed to have her on our side.
|If someone can explain our sin, that God has not provided us with more
|women like her, I would be much abliged.

Enough about Jeri, we all know that she's fine. But are you implying
that Jens Schoenfeld, in turn, contradicts these stereotypes as well?

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A noted American feminist, intent on liberating her newly born daughter from sexual stereotypes, insisted on purchasing only guns and action figures as toys. One day, while the still very young girl was bathing, the mother peeked in and saw a most disgusting sight: her daughter was combing the "hair" of one of her action figures.

No, women like Jeri are not just uncommon, they are SUPERNATURAL. We Commodore geeks cannot possibly BE more blessed to have her on our side. If someone can explain our sin, that God has not provided us with more women like her, I would be much abliged.

- Bo

"Flavio "Senesino" FBG" <flavioREMOVE@ffbg.net> wrote in message news:bdusml$10aojl$1@ID-118982.news.dfncis.de...

And what does it show about women ?

Was it the girls' fault if they had not a C64? I don't think so.
Parents probably thought it was something for a boy, not a
girl. I would put the blame on them instead.

Flavio

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CHATTERBOX ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Matthew Montchalin wrote:

Enough about Jeri, we all know that she's fine. But are you implying
that Jens Schoenfeld, in turn, contradicts these stereotypes as well?

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Hernan Vergara wrote:
|CHATTERBOX ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Matthew Montchalin wrote:
|

Enough about Jeri, we all know that she's fine. But are you implying
that Jens Schoenfeld, in turn, contradicts these stereotypes as well?

Courtenay (spelling?) is fine, too.

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Flavio "Senesino" FBG wrote:

(She
will probably take out all the pieces and put some dolls in it, but at >>least I tried :-)

That's a prejudice, dear Godfather :-) Trust in girls.

He does! He trusts that his daughter wouldn't be a mutant, techie-freak
girl but a normal one ;-) It's just that he needs to know. <grin>

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He does! He trusts that his daughter wouldn't be a mutant, techie-freak
girl but a normal one ;-) It's just that he needs to know. <grin>

:-)

Jokes apart, I have met a few girls who loved their C64s (only a few,
though!)
and they weren't freaks at all, they just liked it a lot (and some were TERRIFIC
playing!)

My girlfriend was a die-hard c64 fan as a child and so was I (but that's another story).

Flavio


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wildstar wrote:
|Matthew Montchalin <mmontcha@OregonVOS.net> wrote in |news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0307021451130.32507-100000@lab.oregonvos.net:
|
|

Enough about Jeri, we all know that she's fine. But are you implying
that Jens Schoenfeld, in turn, contradicts these stereotypes as well?

|
|So what.

Would you prefer I rephrase my question?

|I think Computers had a big emphasis partly due to the fact that
|many of the computer games (which was one of the main reasons that
|a large portion of computers including Commodore 64s where bought for)
|were action shoot-em up games.

And to think I never even tried out a C-64 game until 1987.

|So girls in general under common (at least in US) society had been grown
|up to not really have the much interest in action. Then it is guys who
|have testosterones (spelling?).

<digression snipped>

|Overall, I doubt a C-One should be exclusive in any manner.

Okay, was it Jens who desired a universal 'socket' for the C=1?

What kind of Freudian substitution do you see here?

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Matthew Montchalin <mmontcha@OregonVOS.net> wrote in news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0307100344030.305-100000@lab.oregonvos.net:

Would you prefer I rephrase my question?

Perhaps

And to think I never even tried out a C-64 game until 1987.

you were probably a techno-freak at that time. What I was stating was the general computer market as well as the general Commodore 64 market. At 1988-1990, there was approximately 8 Million Commodore users. By 1992,
there was approximately 5 Million. By 1997-1998, this significantly
dropped to around an estimate of 1 million (world-wide). Now, at best, we might have 200,000-300,000 Commodore users (World-Wide). The general user
base in the 1980s were like most other user-base for the other computer markets but with more emphasis of what can we do with the machine.
Programming to some degree was part of the everyday life of most
Commodore users but at a small level. Simple hello world and that is all
and mostly people only bothered to learned the LOAD"*",8,1 command. That
is extremely different to most of the users who uses the Commodore
computers today. Which narrowed down to people who have more interest
emphasis on programming and hardware. The Commodore scene now has a
lesser populous and less developers but certainly much lesser common
users than before. Since most of these users, Commodore computers was
simply a computer and didn't matter to them whether they buy a Windows computer or a Macintosh. It is just a computer. Nothing more, nothing
less.

For most of the users here today, they have these large collection which
is mostly second handed or third-hand or even 20th handed. Only a few of
there computers were "First Handed". Since they saved them from the
dumps.

<digression snipped>

|Overall, I doubt a C-One should be exclusive in any manner.

Okay, was it Jens who desired a universal 'socket' for the C=1?

What kind of Freudian substitution do you see here?

I thought it was called a slot. I think that you are whining about the
CPU slot. At the same time, you do not seem to understand reprogrammable
GPIO. On FPGAs, they have GPIO which can be programmed for specific
purposes and uses. Think of GPIO as programmable I/O. (GP = General
Purpose). The GPIO lines that are attached to the CPU Slot as well as
other slots are programmable internally inside the FPGA.

An FPGA is an array of logical AND/OR gates which may include NAND and
other logic. This array is commonly structured in a matrix array form. So basically, you got reprogrammable hardware-level data routing. So you
really have to make it an art of handling data routing. Actually I would
call it electrical routing as it is not limited to just data signals. An
FPGA is like a very advance reprogrammable electrical router/switch. If
it is routed properly throughout the core. You should be just fine with
the core design. This will take knowledge in electronics and computerized hardware engineering. So what is the big point other than giving you a
little knowledge about FPGAs.

Jens is a hardware engineer. Are you ?
Jeri is a hardware engineer. Are you ?

They made decision based on what the majority of us asked. They made
decisions to implement a slot that a add-in board with a properly wired
CPU can be used. This was to meet the demand for being able to implement
Apple IIs and other modes at the least extensive cost. You are vehemently against the idea. I am seeing it from a commercial point as a possible increase in possible customer base.

So to ask you this question, Are you a hardware engineer ?
As well as this question, Why don't you work on your own 2005 enhanced
edition of the Commodore 64 and learn how to make one ?

I am tired of hearing this pitty whoo whoo crying of yours. You made your point. We can take care of removing the slot for you. Just make a board without the $2.50 connector.

You will be hardware limited to your 65c816 CPU. (Unless you make a piggy
back board with a z80 on it and insert it into the 44 pin socket -
WARNING - Make sure you have it "wired" correctly )

ciao,
Wildstar*



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