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Hello fellow Mac OS X users,
I'm a Tiger User Mac 10.4.5 & my problem is one I have not been able to

decipher nor find valid information on. My Date & Time settings, no
matter
the values I enter, will not remain correct, always returning to +5
hours ahead.
In the terminal entering the command date, gives the correct time, the
world
clock widget, displays the correct time, as a matter of fact everything
I try
EXCEPT for the System Preferences > Date & Time settings, returns the
correct time... just to show how baffling this is I log into my root /
admin
account & there is no date time error WTF? I boot from my iPod Photo
which
I use for emergencies, and the time is CORRECT? Has anyone else
experienced this? Better yet can anyone suggest a fix? Is there a way
to force
the correct time zone via the command line / terminal??
Thanks for any and all help concerning this matter...

-N

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Entity narosis uttered this profundity:

Can anyone suggest a fix?

Paste this into Terminal and relogin:

sudo rm /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist

-- Gnarlie

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Thanks, this actually worked, I set the clock manually
and I finally had the correct time. Wanting my time to
be as accurate as possible I checked off set date &
time automatically and It seems for whatever reason
my PowerBook is being sent the wrong information
from time.apple.com is there any way to correct this
behavior? Even if there is no "cure" I'm happy to have
a working clock finally. Thanks Again

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narosis wrote:

Thanks, this actually worked, I set the clock manually
and I finally had the correct time. Wanting my time to
be as accurate as possible I checked off set date &
time automatically and It seems for whatever reason
my PowerBook is being sent the wrong information
from time.apple.com is there any way to correct this
behavior? Even if there is no "cure" I'm happy to have
a working clock finally. Thanks Again

What time zone did you pick? Can you change it, and change it back?
Can you choose another that falls in the same time zone you wish to
emulate?

--
John McWilliams
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In article <1144593876.517869.10240@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"narosis" <narosis@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, this actually worked, I set the clock manually and I finally
had the correct time. Wanting my time to be as accurate as possible I checked off set date & time automatically and It seems for whatever
reason my PowerBook is being sent the wrong information from
time.apple.com is there any way to correct this behavior?

Have you checked to see that the computer is set to the correct time
zone?

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
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I've tried all the available options in the "EST" rime zome,
each with the same result. No matter the setting there is
an offset of 4 hours.

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As I stated in an earlier reply there seems to be an offset of 4 hours.

Here are the steps I took: With the date & time set MANUALLY I open
a terminal window and at the command prompt I type "date" and the
reply is offset MINUS 4 hours, yet the clock in the menu bar states the

correct time. With the date & time set AUTOMATICALLY I type date
again in the terminal window, which I'd left open for the purpose of
gathering this information, and the reply is the correct time, yet the
clock
in the menu bar now displays the time PLUS 4 hours.

Falsely, I mistakenly reported my computer was set to EST, because I
thought that's where I was when by the settings in date & time, I'm
actually
in EDT. No matter the time zone setting, there is an offset by +/- 4
hours.

Again I thank you for all your help in semi-puzzling matter

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::CORRECTIONS:: I've tried all the available options in the
"EDT" time zone, each with the same result. No matter
the setting there is an offset of +/- 4 hours depending on
where I'm looking for the time "data".

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On 10 Apr 2006 03:48:31 -0700, narosis wrote:

As I stated in an earlier reply there seems to be an offset of 4 hours.

Here are the steps I took: With the date & time set MANUALLY I open
a terminal window and at the command prompt I type "date" and the
reply is offset MINUS 4 hours, yet the clock in the menu bar states the

correct time. With the date & time set AUTOMATICALLY I type date
again in the terminal window, which I'd left open for the purpose of gathering this information, and the reply is the correct time, yet the
clock
in the menu bar now displays the time PLUS 4 hours.

Falsely, I mistakenly reported my computer was set to EST, because I
thought that's where I was when by the settings in date & time, I'm
actually
in EDT. No matter the time zone setting, there is an offset by +/- 4
hours.

Again I thank you for all your help in semi-puzzling matter

What does "date -u" display? It should be GMT, which is 4 hours ahead of
EDT.

What is the value of your TZ environment variable? Mine is unset, and
the date command gives the correct time for my time zone (EDT).


--
Dave Seaman
U.S. Court of Appeals to review three issues
concerning case of Mumia Abu-Jamal.
<http://www.mumia2000.org/>
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In article <1144666111.186284.153160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
narosis <narosis@gmail.com> wrote:

Falsely, I mistakenly reported my computer was set to EST, because I
thought that's where I was when by the settings in date & time, I'm
actually
in EDT. No matter the time zone setting, there is an offset by +/- 4
hours.

Someone suggested upthread that you delete /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist

Have you tried that yet? Quit System Preferences, delete that file,
and reboot.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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date displays 12:00:00 EDT 2006
date -u displays 16:00:17 GMT 2006
echo $TZ diplays

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tried several time to no avail

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"narosis" <narosis@gmail.com> writes:

date displays 12:00:00 EDT 2006
date -u displays 16:00:17 GMT 2006
echo $TZ diplays

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This is the correct displacement between EDT and GMT.

- GMT is not London time; it has no daylight savings.
- Your timezone is presumably set to US/eastern (or something like
that), not EST or EDT. The switch to daylight savings time is made
automatically.

--
Bill Mitchell
Dept of Mathematics, The University of Florida
PO Box 118105, Gainesville, FL 32611--8105
mitchell@math.ufl.edu (352) 392-0281 x284
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In article <kcednSRnfp9cm6bZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
Matthew Russotto <russotto@grace.speakeasy.net> wrote:

In article <1144666111.186284.153160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
narosis <narosis@gmail.com> wrote:

Falsely, I mistakenly reported my computer was set to EST, because I >>thought that's where I was when by the settings in date & time, I'm >>actually
in EDT. No matter the time zone setting, there is an offset by +/- 4
hours.

Someone suggested upthread that you delete >/Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist

This may or may not work better than the suggestions from other
respondents, but try removing the .GlobalPreferences.plist file
WITHOUT the windowing system active. The Finder may be flushing
memory-based settings out to that file when you quit the Finder
(such as by logging out), reconstituting that file with the same
broken settings that were in the deleted file. (This all assumes
that this file is somehow corrupted or has improper permission
settings.)

Log out of your normal account. When presented with the login
window, enter ">console" for the username. This will take you to
a text-based console (yea Unix!). Then run these commands to (1)
turn your shell into a superuser shell; (2) find the process ID
for ntpd, and kill it; (3) clean up any files associated with ntpd;
(4) remove the .GlobalPreferences.plist file; and (5) reboot the
system without going back to the windowing system:

$ sudo -s
# kill `ps ax | grep ntpd | grep -v grep | sed -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ .*//'`
# rm /var/run/ntp.drift /var/run/ntpd.pid
# rm /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist
# reboot

Another useful thing to eliminate as a possibility (which I didn't
see suggested earlier) is to run a "Repair Permissions" from
Disk Utility.app. You can do this before dropping into console
mode, or run it at the console BEFORE the other commands above:

$ sudo /usr/sbin/diskutil repairPermissions /

Since you're running 10.4.5, you'll likely get a lot of those
"Using special permissions..." messages. If you want to see what
it's really doing, you'll have to weed those out. 10.4.6 fixed
the DiskManagement.framework so as to avoid cluttering up the
display with those messages.

--
Gregory Pratt gp@panix.com
East Rutherford, NJ, USA http://www.panix.com/~gp/
"The only good spammer is a dead spammer."
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In article <e1h2h2$q3v$1@panix5.panix.com>, Greg Pratt <gp@panix.com> wrote: [...]

Log out of your normal account. When presented with the login
window, enter ">console" for the username. This will take you to
a text-based console (yea Unix!). Then run these commands to (1)
turn your shell into a superuser shell; (2) find the process ID
for ntpd, and kill it; (3) clean up any files associated with ntpd;
(4) remove the .GlobalPreferences.plist file; and (5) reboot the
system without going back to the windowing system:

$ sudo -s
# kill `ps ax | grep ntpd | grep -v grep | sed -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ .*//'`
# rm /var/run/ntp.drift /var/run/ntpd.pid
# rm /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist
# reboot

[...]

Another more Unix-y issue occured to me later: what does the file /etc/localtime look like? It should be a symlink to the actual
zoneinfo file. On my system, where I'm using "America/New_York" as
my system time zone:

$ ls -l /etc/localtime
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 36 Apr 11 15:26 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York

You might try deleting this symlink, or recreating it to point to the
desired file in /usr/share/zoneinfo by hand (rm /etc/localtime && ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime).

--
Gregory Pratt gp@panix.com
East Rutherford, NJ, USA http://www.panix.com/~gp/
"The only good spammer is a dead spammer."
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I apologize for my lack of activity. I was trying everything
to get passeda /dev/console error. I was doing so in my
effort to log in in console mode as per previous posts.
Since discovering my mac is active far below standard,
I've decided to backup, format & freshly install osx tiger.
I think installing both fink & port authority created some
of these issues so I'm going to try it all over again, wish
me luck.....

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