• Can you throw away receipts?

    From henree21@henree21@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 08, 2006 21:26:25
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    I am getting rid of un-necessary junk on the hd. And was wondering
    about the receipts that are in the libraries folder. Some of them take
    up lots of space. WIll any harm happen if I toss them away.

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  • From TaliesinSoft@taliesinsoft@mac.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 08, 2006 23:44:07
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    On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:26:25 -0500, henree21@yahoo.com wrote
    (in article <1144556785.172063.7830@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

    I am getting rid of un-necessary junk on the hd. And was wondering
    about the receipts that are in the libraries folder. Some of them take
    up lots of space. WIll any harm happen if I toss them away.

    The receipts are what Software Update checks in order to determine what updates are needed.


    --
    James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft@mac.com

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  • From Gnarlodious@gnarlodious@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, April 09, 2006 05:14:04
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    Entity TaliesinSoft uttered this profundity:

    I am getting rid of un-necessary junk on the hd. And was wondering
    about the receipts that are in the libraries folder. Some of them take
    up lots of space. WIll any harm happen if I toss them away.

    The receipts are what Software Update checks in order to determine what updates are needed.
    You should only trash receipts if you have uninstalled the app and/or never plan on updating it.

    -- Gnarlie
    http://Gnarlodious.com/

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  • From Gregory Weston@uce@splook.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, April 09, 2006 07:40:32
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    In article <0001HW.C05DFB470013EE6FF0284530@news.supernews.com>,
    TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@mac.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:26:25 -0500, henree21@yahoo.com wrote
    (in article <1144556785.172063.7830@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

    I am getting rid of un-necessary junk on the hd. And was wondering
    about the receipts that are in the libraries folder. Some of them take
    up lots of space. WIll any harm happen if I toss them away.

    The receipts are what Software Update checks in order to determine what updates are needed.

    And some of them are referenced by the Disk Utility "repair permissions" process.

    --
    "Congurutulation!!!" - The subject line on some spam I received recently.
    I have no idea what it means, but it's such a cool "word" (by which I mean pronouncable sequence of letters) regardless.
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  • From Ilgaz Ocal@ilgaz_ocal@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, April 09, 2006 18:58:07
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-09 14:40:32 +0300, Gregory Weston <uce@splook.com> said:

    In article <0001HW.C05DFB470013EE6FF0284530@news.supernews.com>,
    TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@mac.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:26:25 -0500, henree21@yahoo.com wrote
    (in article <1144556785.172063.7830@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

    I am getting rid of un-necessary junk on the hd. And was wondering
    about the receipts that are in the libraries folder. Some of them take
    up lots of space. WIll any harm happen if I toss them away.

    The receipts are what Software Update checks in order to determine what
    updates are needed.

    And some of them are referenced by the Disk Utility "repair
    permissions" process.

    Also based on "omni disksweeper", Library/receipts on "hundreds of
    software, updates installed" system like mine, is only 62.6 MB

    I know it is unscientific but you gotta see my "versiontracker pro"
    software listing :)

    Not worth the hassle.

    In fact, as a general rule (telling to OP), you shouldn't touch
    anything in /Library , /System except caches (if they are broken)

    Ilgaz

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  • From Fred Lotte@flotte@nospam.stratos.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 10, 2006 22:22:27
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    In article <1144556785.172063.7830@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, henree21@yahoo.com wrote:

    I am getting rid of un-necessary junk on the hd. And was wondering
    about the receipts that are in the libraries folder. Some of them take
    up lots of space. WIll any harm happen if I toss them away.

    You can toss them but, as others have said, your system will lose track of update status. If you
    made the standard install, you can gain some space by deleting lproj files for languages that
    you don't use. They are named with a nationality.lproj and are part of an application. They are
    not large but there are about 70,000 of them for the stock 10.2.8 install (I have an old machine
    :-). I don't recall the exact number but it seemed very large at the time; about half of all the
    files installed. You can also delete iApps and other apps that you don't use. A MB here, a MB
    there pretty some you've got a GB. You have to keep after them though as updates will re-install
    some of them.

    636 non English.lproj or other English sounding (en, au) files that have found there way onto my
    HD since the last time I removed them amounted to 30.6MB.

    If the ratio holds, 70,000 of these files will amount to about 3GB (Which seems like a lot more
    than what I think I remember from the first time I cleared them out).

    --
    Fred Lotte
    flotte@nospam.stratos.net
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  • From John Rethorst@nobody@nowhere.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 10, 2006 21:36:02
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <flotte-E7E770.22222610042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
    Fred Lotte <flotte@nospam.stratos.net> wrote:

    636 non English.lproj or other English sounding (en, au) files that have found there way onto my
    HD since the last time I removed them amounted to 30.6MB.

    Monolingual, at sourceforge.net, can delete unused language files.

    --
    John Rethorst
    jrethorst at post dot com
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  • From henree21@henree21@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 10, 2006 22:21:01
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system


    John Rethorst wrote:
    In article <flotte-E7E770.22222610042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
    Fred Lotte <flotte@nospam.stratos.net> wrote:

    636 non English.lproj or other English sounding (en, au) files that have found there way onto my
    HD since the last time I removed them amounted to 30.6MB.

    Monolingual, at sourceforge.net, can delete unused language files.

    --
    John Rethorst
    jrethorst at post dot com

    Where do I find these files?

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  • From henree21@henree21@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 10, 2006 22:32:23
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    I just found that in the library. The caches folder takes up 784 mb of
    space. What doesn't add up, is the fact that If i check the size of the
    folders inside the cache folder. It doesn't come close to 784 mb. I am
    on a old imac, with 10 gigs of space. And I am desperately trying to
    free up space.

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  • From Ilgaz Ocal@ilgaz_ocal@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 16:16:21
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-11 08:32:23 +0300, henree21@yahoo.com said:

    I just found that in the library. The caches folder takes up 784 mb of
    space. What doesn't add up, is the fact that If i check the size of the folders inside the cache folder. It doesn't come close to 784 mb. I am
    on a old imac, with 10 gigs of space. And I am desperately trying to
    free up space.

    Hi,

    OK, there are more than 30 titles but I suggest "YASU" since I have
    used it without any problems. It is freeware, small, just select "all
    options" and run. Remember pick the right version for your OS X version
    from drop down list:
    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21674

    Also here is "Monolingual" which I used very successfully too. To
    remove the "real junk", languages you don't know :) http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7758

    These are freeware.

    A very cheap Shareware to clean up the "temp files", "remove
    unneccesarry languages" and run (enhanced) OS X scripts is Macaroni,
    coded by Tom Harrington who is frequent in these newsgroups but he
    doesn't like to advertise :)

    http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9633

    Why it matters is: It is automatic, you won't even know/have to care it
    is running. You will even forget you installed it but it will function.

    Have a nice day

    Ilgaz
    ps: I repeat, don't remove receipts

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  • From Fred Lotte@flotte@nospam.stratos.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 20:35:54
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    In article <1144732861.212732.283740@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, henree21@yahoo.com wrote:

    John Rethorst wrote:
    In article <flotte-E7E770.22222610042006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
    Fred Lotte <flotte@nospam.stratos.net> wrote:

    636 non English.lproj or other English sounding (en, au) files that have found there way onto my
    HD since the last time I removed them amounted to 30.6MB.

    Monolingual, at sourceforge.net, can delete unused language files.

    --
    John Rethorst
    jrethorst at post dot com

    Where do I find these files?

    I found my notes from one of the times I removed the non-English lproj files. There were 71,792
    of them (probably 71,792 items that make up a lesser number of lproj files) in the regular
    installation of OSX 10.2.0 (I think it was 0). They occupied 381.3MB. I also eliminated 23,472
    Printer driver 'items' which occupied 468.7MB. Acrobat Reader 5.0 (I use 6) was 551 items for
    77.4MB. (What does Adobe need 77MB for in a glorified text & picture reader?) Internet Exploder
    was 1432 items for 23.6MB. (Same question, iCab is about 3MB) iApps I don't use were 132.3MB and
    an extra copy of Asian Text Extras was 2.6MB (I don't know where it came from). In all, I
    regained 1085.9MB of disk space. Since my old 'Beige' G3 requires OSX be in the first 8GB
    partition on the disk, this is valuable disk space. Since that time, I've learned to use custom
    install to limit the extra stuff when I install a system.

    The lproj files are in the 'Contents' inside an application bundle. I was able to boot into OS 9
    (on a separate partition, NOT classic) and use File Buddy to find all the lproj files. It's
    harder in OSX since the system claims ownership of most of the files. Most of the others are
    self contained but they will spread stuff around your home directory, and some other places,
    once you run them.

    --
    Fred Lotte
    flotte@nospam.stratos.net
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