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I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only
a few minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

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<chine.bleu-F127F1.07593605122020@reader.eternal-september.org>, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only
a few minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

it gives as long as it takes, depending on your bandwidth.

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

what's crippled is not apple's servers.
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On 2020-12-05, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only a few minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

In response to your idiotic post, I just downloaded Xcode 11 from that
page and timed how long it took to download. Let's see how long Apple
"gives" us to download it!...

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

Why do know-nothing idiot trolls think they can just lie about things
that are easily verified by others? Because they are know-nothing idiots
who think the rest of us are just as dumb as them - that's why. Pathetic fucking losers.

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

Apple's servers aren't what's crippled.
Seek professional help with your mental illness, fuckwad.

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Siri Cruise wrote:

I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only
a few minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

Quick calculation gives me 7.6 GB*1024/(5 min*60)*8 = 200 Mbps. Are you sure you have more on your end?

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

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In article <i31s7lF5ng4U2@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

It takes 2 to 3 hours at my connection speed.

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Siri Cruise wrote:

In article <i31s7lF5ng4U2@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

It takes 2 to 3 hours at my connection speed.

OK, now I understand the problem - I thought you downloaded 7 GB in a few minutes and complained it's too slow for you.

Have you tried using wget and resuming the unfinished downloads (wget -c)?

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In article
<chine.bleu-E9341F.10180005122020@reader.eternal-september.org>, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

It takes 2 to 3 hours at my connection speed.

which contradicts your initial claim that it's blocked after a few
minutes.
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On 05-Dec-2020 at 8:53:09AM PST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2020-12-05, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only a few
minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

In response to your idiotic post, I just downloaded Xcode 11 from that
page and timed how long it took to download. Let's see how long Apple
"gives" us to download it!...

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

Why do know-nothing idiot trolls think they can just lie about things
that are easily verified by others? Because they are know-nothing idiots
who think the rest of us are just as dumb as them - that's why. Pathetic fucking losers.

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

Apple's servers aren't what's crippled.
Seek professional help with your mental illness, fuckwad.

As an aside, I will state that just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're aren't people out to get me (or my computer).

Some weeks ago, a friend asked me to download the latest Xcode (12.1) because
I have a faster internet connection than his crappy DSL line. So I did only
to have him call me late that night after he drove over and had me copy the
XIP file onto a thumb drive. It seamed that it wouldn't open and the error message said it was corrupt. I tried it on my box along with Xcode 11 and 10. All the XIP files on the developer.apple.com were borked because the certificate server that validated them was down (separate from the browser's certificate as XIP files are signed ZIP files).

The files opened as expected on the following Tuesday. So someone inside of Apple fixed the certificate server. And I hope put a step in their deployment of these files to test for the server being up. That way future builds would flag an outage.

While I was investigating this, my friend with the crappy DSL line was using aria2 which is specially built to download big files in parts using multiple processes thereby using the maximum throughput of a connection. It also has restart features that wget lacks.

Whatever Jerry or other trolls in this group are using, the complaint that you need to have a reasonably fast broadband connection to do much these days
seems valid. Zoom on his DSL? Forget anything but really crappy voice connections. Download an 8GB CentOS 8 ISO? Use bittorrent rather than https. Apple hasn't offered any sort of "I have a crappy connection" option, so the trolls are restless.

This time, I think they have a point. Wifi into Mom's basement probably
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On 05-Dec-2020 at 9:02:02AM PST, "Krzysztof Mitko" <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> wrote:

Siri Cruise wrote:

I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only
a few minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

Quick calculation gives me 7.6 GB*1024/(5 min*60)*8 = 200 Mbps. Are you sure you have more on your end?

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

I got crappy bandwidth because I was using both upload and download in my asymmetric connection. Once I disabled network backups and my upload stopped, I got 4-5MB/s which is what my ISP says I should expect.

Maybe there's a bottleneck between the troll and Apple's servers. They
haven't posted any network metrics other than "it's slow", so who knows.
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In article <i322a1F72n5U1@mid.individual.net>, Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:

While I was investigating this, my friend with the crappy DSL line was using aria2 which is specially built to download big files in parts using multiple processes thereby using the maximum throughput of a connection. It also has restart features that wget lacks.

one stream will max out the connection throughput, assuming your
bandwidth is higher than the server sending the data.

using multiple streams isn't going to make it faster. if anything, it
will make it slower, especially when the server limits simultaneous connections, as many do. apple's limit is three.
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On 2020-12-05 11:53, Jolly Roger wrote:

In response to your idiotic post, I just downloaded Xcode 11 from that
page and timed how long it took to download. Let's see how long Apple
"gives" us to download it!...

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

What is your download speed? Your data shows that it doesn't time out
for 27 minutes. It does not pove thre is NO timeout. There could be one
at 30 minutes and you woudln't have seen it. There could be one at an
hour and you wouldn't see it.

Twitter had/has timeouts to upload images which made it impossible to
upload a picture on T-Mobile in 2010 because on 2G it took longer to
upload than their limit. These time-outs are not too uncommon, it helps
free resources of connections that are dead, but as side effect kills
slow connections.
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In article <7MQyH.98788$kf6.95068@fx26.iad>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

In response to your idiotic post, I just downloaded Xcode 11 from that
page and timed how long it took to download. Let's see how long Apple "gives" us to download it!...

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

What is your download speed? Your data shows that it doesn't time out
for 27 minutes. It does not pove thre is NO timeout. There could be one
at 30 minutes and you woudln't have seen it. There could be one at an
hour and you wouldn't see it.

there is no timeout.

Twitter had/has timeouts to upload images which made it impossible to
upload a picture on T-Mobile in 2010 because on 2G it took longer to
upload than their limit. These time-outs are not too uncommon, it helps
free resources of connections that are dead, but as side effect kills
slow connections.

twitter is not apple and uploading is not downloading.

i did see that there's a short timeout on a vax, but only for dial-up
users.
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On 2020-12-05 14:21, nospam wrote:

there is no timeout.

So you have access to the web server configs for Apple or whatever CDN
they are using to distribute content to know there is no timeout in
their configs?

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In article <juUyH.111886$lP1.107943@fx37.iad>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

there is no timeout.

So you have access to the web server configs for Apple or whatever CDN
they are using to distribute content to know there is no timeout in
their configs?

you're the one making the ridiculous claim there's a timeout, so the
burden is on *you* to prove it.
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In message <chine.bleu-F127F1.07593605122020@reader.eternal-september.org> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like how https://developer.apple.com/download/more/ gives only a few minutes to down 7.6 gigabytes.

Wha the hell are you talking about? Nothing about that statemennt is
correct.

So any providers of XCode 11 not on crippled Apple servers?

Your shitty connection is not Apple's fault. I've downloaded several
Xcode builds in the last month or so (each weighing it at well over 10GB)
with no issues whatsoever.



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On 2020-12-05, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <i31s7lF5ng4U2@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

It takes 2 to 3 hours at my connection speed.

So you were lying when you claimed Apple prevented you from downloading
it. I'm sure you also think your shitty connection speeds are also
Apple's fault.

Idiot troll.

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On 2020-12-05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

On 2020-12-05 11:53, Jolly Roger wrote:

In response to your idiotic post, I just downloaded Xcode 11 from that
page and timed how long it took to download. Let's see how long Apple
"gives" us to download it!...

...12 minutes in, and I've got 3.6GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...20 minutes in, and I've got 6.1GB of 8.15GB downloaded...
...27 minutes in, and the download is *complete*.

What is your download speed?

Calculate it yourself from the numbers above, "smart" guy.

Your data shows that it doesn't time out for 27 minutes. It does not
pove thre is NO timeout.

There was *no* timeout, fuckwad.

There could be one at 30 minutes

There *wasn't* a timeout, fuckwad.

and you woudln't have seen it.

The download *completed* and Apple did *nothing* to stop it, fuckwad.

There could be one at an hour and you wouldn't see it.

A magical monkey could suddenly crawl out of your ass, too.

Anything else to add, porky?

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On 2020-12-06 13:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

There *wasn't* a timeout, fuckwad.
The download *completed* and Apple did *nothing* to stop it, fuckwad.
A magical monkey could suddenly crawl out of your ass, too.
Anything else to add, porky?

Does your mother know this is how you interact with people?
Does your high school teacher know this is how you interact with people?
When you're old enough to consider going to college, I suspect you'll
regret having on record all these interactions.
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On 2020-12-06 2:11 p.m., JF Mezei wrote:

On 2020-12-06 13:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

There *wasn't* a timeout, fuckwad.
The download *completed* and Apple did *nothing* to stop it, fuckwad.
A magical monkey could suddenly crawl out of your ass, too.
Anything else to add, porky?

Does your mother know this is how you interact with people?

Do you know if he interacts they with PEOPLE...

...or just a very small subset of people who insist on being asses?
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In message <OGczH.135347$kM7.82134@fx43.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

On 2020-12-06 13:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

There *wasn't* a timeout, fuckwad.
The download *completed* and Apple did *nothing* to stop it, fuckwad.
A magical monkey could suddenly crawl out of your ass, too.
Anything else to add, porky?

Does your mother know this is how you interact with people?

Are you 6?

And my mother would call you a "worthless son of a bitch", by the way,
as that is what she generally calls worthless idiots.

Look, you continue the exact same pattern of behavior. You make shit up
and post nonsense based on nothing but your made-up suppositions, then
you are surprised when people rightly react to your bullshit by calling
it out.

You ARE a fuckhead, so you cannot be surprised when people call you that
when you are demonstrably being a fuckhead.

Does your high school teacher know this is how you interact with people?

I don't give a fuck what any of my high school teachers would say about
calling you what you are. I didn't care in high school, why would I care
now.

When you're old enough to consider going to college, I suspect you'll
regret having on record all these interactions.

Oh, you precious little babe, did you get your undies bunched up?

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On 2020-12-06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

On 2020-12-06 13:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

There *wasn't* a timeout, fuckwad.
The download *completed* and Apple did *nothing* to stop it, fuckwad.
A magical monkey could suddenly crawl out of your ass, too.
Anything else to add, porky?

Does your mother know this is how you interact with people?

Not people - just asshole FUDster trolls.

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