Update regarding this recent thread today:
o Want a charger with your iPhone 12? Move to Brazil.
Want Earpods with your iPhone 12? Move to France.
by sms <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/qu_RTwBgsf8>
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 14:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Matt wrote:
<>> What shocks me is the utter lack of adult comprehension on this ng.
<>
<> Common sense is eluded for some when there are economic reasons.
Hi Matt,
Using my adult comprehensive skills, the topic, as I see it, is:
o Brazil === Apple apparently refuses to abide by basic warranty laws
o France === Apple isn't satisfying hands-free (out of the box) laws
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:36:42 -0000 (UTC), Matt wrote:
And how many people in France only use the headphones? Almost none from
what I see. The policy isn't really working.
Then you should go out and see how many people are using headphones
(hint: a lot) ;)
Hi Matt,
Almost every Android phone ever made, and, in fact over 99.5% of them...
o Have the basic functionality of a headphone jack
On 21 Dec 2020 08:13:29 GMT, John Gardner wrote:
He has never ever made a mistake in the entire history of Usenet, go read
the ´written record¡
Hi John Gardner,
Now the question comes up, a very interesting one at that, is _why_.
o Why do the apologists hate facts about Apple so much they deny them outright?
Why?
o I don't know why.
I just know they do.
I suspect you're following up on "Alan Baker", who, well, who is so fantastically stupid that he's a classic first quadrant far to the left Dunning Kruger personality.
The reason my facts are never materially wrong, even after decades of
posting scores of posts on Usenet (many with tutorials and most on Apple telling the truth about Apple products and MARKETING decisions), aren't because I went to the finest schools in this country.
On 21 Dec 2020 19:48:42 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
You're full of shit, as usual. There is no "power circuit problem" other
than that old batteries can't deliver required power consistently.
Hi *nospam*,
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:50:34 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
Not sure anyone could prove you wrong even if they were right...
Hi badgolferman,
The key problem with this newsgroup is simply that the apologists exist:
o Type I (nospam) fabricate anything to defend Apple MARKETING to the death
o Type II (sms) simply don't have adult cognitive skills on complex facts
o Type III (Alan Baker) brazenly deny all facts they simply don't like
I am not playing your silly infantile games, badgolferman, so stop it.
o You don't seem to appear to understand in the least what a 'fact' is.
But nobody is as stupid as what you're saying makes you appear to be.
o Not even you.
If you can't tell the difference between a fact and an assessment of a
fact, then you have a lot more adult growing up to do, badgolferman.
A lot.
For example, this is a fact:
o Google said Apple couldn't possibly have tested iOS core code since 1985
(i.e., the core code where Google found the bug that brought the entire
iOS house of cards down as Google recently reported in gory detail).
None of the apologists like that fact, so they play infantile games around that fact, but all their infantile games don't change the fact that Google said what Google said and that I pointed to the cite where Google said it.
Here's another fact:
o The BBC reported Apple paid a criminal fine to the Paris prosecutor's
office and said Apple had to publish an admission of guilt which
had to stay for a month on the Apple French language web site.
None of the apologists like that fact, and, in fact, they denied that fact, even as I cited _numerous_ reports stating the same thing the BBC said, in addition to the cite to the Apple admission of guilt (in French).
For you to play infantile coy games that these are not facts is
disingenuous, and so patently childish that it's unbecoming of you to play such kindergarten games with me simply because you can't comprehend a fact.
o Stop it.
But I▌ not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong, merely providing a >> possible explanation of why others do.
badgolferman,
You're so wrong that it's so trivial to prove you wrong... that it's kind
of sad to have to do so - because you're dead wrong on so many obvious levels.
You've never found any fact by me to be materially wrong, and you (likely) never will, simply because I don't say something is a fact unless it is a fact (and I almost always provide the cite to the fact unless I've already provided it a hundred and fifty times already and it still didn't sink into your skull yet).
For example, you know nospam claimed the iPhone X did not get throttling software months after it certainly did (nospam's claim was in the January time frame when the throttling software was added the prior October 31st).
Don't blame me, badgolferman, because nospam is a Type I apologist.
For example, you find the apologists disagreeing with any and all facts
they simply don't like, e.g., Steve Scharf _still_ claims Qualcomm
royalties went down.
Don't blame me, badgolferman, because Steve Scharf is a Type II apologist.
o Blame sms for believing that Qualcomm royalties went down when they went up.
You know Alan Baker called me a liar when I told him the User Agent of NewsTap is spoofed, and yet Alan Baker repeatedly called me a liar because _he_, Alan Baker, couldn't comprehend that the headers are easily spoofed.
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:32:57 -0800, RocketSurgeon wrote:
No they didn't! I hate you making up stories! They are all open right
now. I am typing from there now.
Thank you for the evidence that the key problem on the child-like Apple newsgroups is simply that the apologists exist.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:14:17 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
This is yet more evidence that what's wrong with the child-like Apple ngs o Is simply the fact that these apologists existFor the few adults who may be on these child-like Apple newsgroups...
I forgot to note which thread that evidence arose from, where it was here:
o Apple Temporarily Closes All California Stores as Virus Cases Rise <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/W2sRrpzCor4>
1. Notice that's a PSA informing people that Apple closed CA stores
2. It's _verbatim_ and yet, an apologist _still_ brazenly denied the facts 3. Worse, and very importantly, the apologist _fabricated_ openings
(It's critical to realize he fabricated what simply does not exist.)
4. And, as usual, the apologist didn't provide a single cite of backup
5. Which, since I'm an adult, is a cite that I'd click on and comprehend
(as I did from the non apologist who had also responded with good info) <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/W2sRrpzCor4/m/4Y03yyCEBQAJ>
In summary, this is evidence that the apologists hate facts about Apple...
o Such that they deny the facts they simply hate about Apple...
(without even clicking on the links containing the facts about Apple)
Worse... they fabricate what they _wish_ Apple would have done
o And yet, they can provide zero proof that Apple has done what they wish
Here's the verbatim quote from the apologist who doesn't like the facts: <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/W2sRrpzCor4/m/QIxN-APsBQAJ>
"No they didn't! I hate you making up stories!
They are all open right now.
I am typing from there now.
The real problem with the Apple newsgroups is simply that
mission posters/trolls exist. "
This is further clear evidence that the reason the Apple newsgroups are filled to the brim with these childish brazen denials of fact are simply that the apologists exist.
--
One bug.... and the entire untested core iOS house of cards falls down. <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/7Mc1sX9XISA>
Google asked "Was it really that easy?", to which the answer was "Yes".
Google proved iOS core code dating back to 1985 has _never_ been tested! <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/nbxvoDgiGT4>
In article <rtpm47$12kc$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> wrote:
UPDATE:
o The problem with this newsgroup is simply that apologists exist
which newsgroup? You are posting to 3 of them.
Update.Nothing's changed since the last time you puked this up, with the deviation Vallor is claiming a false red line hit from a piece of software not produced by or sponsored by the Malwarebytes author 'raped' your newsgroup.
Moments ago, a _perfect_ example of the fact it's the apologists
alone who turn these Apple newsgroups into a cesspool, just occurred..
Guess why?
o A space.
Yup.
o A space.
I spent hours writing & testing a summary tutorial on privacy based browsers, and, in the process, deleted a single space.
A space.
o Yup. A space.
The Type III apologists screamed bloody murder.
o Over a space.
Yup. A space.
o They didn't even _read_ the tutorial (nor could they comprehend it).
What they screamed across three newsgroups was the deletion of a space.
o Yup. A space.
It's yet more evidence of the clear and obvious fact that what turns
the Apple newsgroups into the childish cesspool that it currently is,
is simply that these apologists exist.
Want proof of everything stated?
o See this thread today (reproduced below) for the perfect proof of my claim.
o What free, ad free, account free, free unlimited bandwidth VPN (aka proxy) browsers do you know of?
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/Ptd7f_C4MbM>
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 08:57:48 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2021-01-06 15:23:20 +0000, Arlen Holder said:
What free, ad free, account free, free unlimited bandwidth VPN (aka<snip>
proxy) browsers do you know of?
And the asswipe know-nothing anti-Apple moronic little braindead troll changes his posting name yet again. :-\
Hehhehheh... Hey badgolferman,
o *Didn't I tell you "Your Name" would act like a child due to the fix!*
YourName is further evidence what turns these Apple newsgroups into the childish cesspool that it currently is, is simply that apologists exist.
o <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/Ptd7f_C4MbM/m/ijpajX_iCQAJ>
"And the asswipe know-nothing anti-Apple moronic little braindead
troll changes his posting name yet again."
You have to admit I have these three types of apologists pegged so much
that I 100% correctly publicly predicted morons like "Your Name" would scream
if we fix the double spaces you asked me to fix in this post from you:
o misc.phone.mobile.iphone newsgroup statistics for 12/2020, by badgolferman <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EP2upy3c2_o>
Where you asked me to remove an extraneous space:
o <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EP2upy3c2_o/m/pdjmjevdCQAJ>
"Yes, it appears to be fixed now. Thank you for taking the effort
to [remove the extraneous space]..."
I replied that I would fix it; but that the childish apologists would cry:
o <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EP2upy3c2_o/m/Mrrpkza2CQAJ>
"I'd be glad to _change_ the user name for you if you like.
But the one problem with that is all the morons will scream.
I've [removed a space], but expect the morons to scream."
This post by YourName is yet another proof that it's the apologists
alone who turn this Apple newsgroup into the childish cesspool it is.
1. I spent an hour compiling lots of links of useful value
2. I read a bunch of reviews, so that I would have accurate data
3. And yet, the Type III apologists complain about a single space!
There's no better obvious proof of how utterly worthless these worthless pieces
of shit are, than what Your Name just proved to everyone on this newsgroup! o He's never in his life _ever_ contributed value to Usenet
Not even once!
And yet, the Type III apologist screams bloody murder when someone else writes a damn good opening post which contains tons of useful value...
o Where I happened to have removed a single character at the express
request of badgolferman, who compiles newsgroup usage statistics.
You have to admit, I have these three types of apologists 100% pegged:
o Type I (nospam) will defend Apple to the death at all costs
o Type II (sms) believe MARKETING bullshit sans ever checking on facts
o Type III (Your Name) will complain like hell about deletion of a space!
Far be it for _any_ of the Apple apologists to comprehend the topic.
o Worse... it would be against all reason for them to _add_ an iota of value
All they _can_ do, like Rudy Wieser and the other worthless pieces of shit who infest these newsgroups, is "complain about a deletion of a space".
Every apologist acts like a child when confronted with simple facts.
o Even when, in this case, badgolferman asked me to delete a space!
--
YourName is further evidence what turns the Apple newsgroups into the childish cesspool that they currently are, is simply that apologists exist.
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