• Re: What to tell Apple Apologists who claim anyone who speaks facts is "down on Apple" (i.e., they conflict with Apple Marketing)?

    From Arlen Holder@arlen_holder@newmachines.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Saturday, December 19, 2020 14:18:22
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    UPDATE for the permanent record on how these strange apologists think.


    On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:56:49 +1300, Your Name wrote:

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    All you Type III Apple apologists think alike.
    o You think anyone who tells the factual truth, must be anti-Apple.

    It happens all the time that these Type III apologist's brains simply can't fathom that people can speak the truth about _all_ operating systems.

    Why?
    o I don't know why.

    I suspect these TYPE III apologists _only_ read MARKETING shills
    o Such that they've _never_ seen nor contemplated actual facts about Apple.

    There's an entire thread on these strange people who claim you can only
    speak good things about Apple, and even more so, if you say the truth about Apple, you must be "anti Apple" (even if you own plenty of Apple hardware):
    o What to tell Apple Apologists who claim anyone who speaks facts is "down
    on Apple" (i.e., they conflict with Apple Marketing)?
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/z7HCl4tm71E>

    The truth is I speak the truth about all operating systems I use, whether that's Canonical's Ubuntu which they screwed up with Unity; or if it's
    Windows 10 trying to force you to create a Microsoft Account, or if it's Android where Google grabs your sqlite contacts database without even
    giving you the opportunity to stop it (if you use the Google MUA).

    Yet, these Type III apologists like Your Name are completely unused to
    people who speak facts about all operating systems they use every day.

    And then, these Type III apologists attack you (e.g., they attack Gordon
    Moore simply for saying facts about Apple that they themselves don't like).

    Why?
    o I don't know why.

    I suspect all these Type III apologists are cultists, who are so weak
    minded that they allow MARKETING to set their definition of self worth.

    For example, MARKETING tells 'em the camera quality of output is the best
    o And yet, iPhones can barely break into the top 10 most of the time

    Those are facts which, if you point them to the cites, they'll say that the test reviewers were "bribed" (true story - from nospam himself), where any outfit that doesn't put Apple in the top must be, by definition, bribed.

    Can you believe what these Apologists actually believe?
    o It's why I claim it's apologists who ruin this newsgroup for everyone.

    Not the people who speak facts and who have _never_ been wrong on facts!
    o Note: People obsess about "assessments" which are different from facts!

    Did'ja ever wonder, for example, why TYPE III apologists always attack the bearer of mere facts? I have. I believe that they have self identified with Apple's MARKETING messaging (admittedly Apple's brilliant specialty).

    So whenever Apple MARKETING messaging is show to be untrue, (e.g., battery
    life claims, throttling excuses, hurdles in consumer repair, privacy leaks galore, security leaps like you can't believe, they're so sophomoric,
    etc.), these Type III apologists react with pure hateful vicious vitriol.

    Why?
    o I don't know why.

    I suspect any truthful fact about Apple which conflicts with the MARKETING messages Apple fed to these Type III apologists, is considered by these
    TYPE III apologists as a direct attack against them (i.e., their self
    worth).

    Since they take all of their self worth from MARKETING, they themselves
    can't fathom anyone else who actually looks at the facts, & not the BS.
    --
    One bug.... and the entire untested core iOS house of cards falls down. <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/7Mc1sX9XISA>
    Google asked "Was it really that easy?", to which the answer was "Yes".
    Google proved iOS core code dating back to 1985 has _never_ been tested!
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  • From Alan Baker@notonyourlife@no.no.no.no to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.android on Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:07:25
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2020-12-19 6:18 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
    UPDATE for the permanent record

    The truth is I speak the truth about all operating systems I use, whether that's Canonical's Ubuntu which they screwed up with Unity; or if it's Windows 10 trying to force you to create a Microsoft Account, or if it's Android where Google grabs your sqlite contacts database without even
    giving you the opportunity to stop it (if you use the Google MUA).

    Or when you claimed a note directing you to consult Apple's official
    Privacy Policy was actually the policy itself...


    Yet, these Type III apologists like Your Name are completely unused to
    people who speak facts about all operating systems they use every day.

    And then, these Type III apologists attack you (e.g., they attack Gordon Moore simply for saying facts about Apple that they themselves don't like).

    For example, MARKETING tells 'em the camera quality of output is the best
    o And yet, iPhones can barely break into the top 10 most of the time

    Where what you really mean is that you watch the DXOMark rankings every
    day to catch those moments when Apple's iPhone is not in the top 10.
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