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  • Re: Xserve "Terminal Server"

    From Bob Harris@nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 07, 2006 01:20:24
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article
    <1144347471.601463.243850@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
    "TT" <tex---74@tiscali.it> wrote:

    Hi all.
    Could someone tell me if does Xserve (Tiger) support Terminal Services
    just like Windows 2000 Server?
    I know there is Apple Remote Desktop for remote management, but I'd
    like to run several GUIs at one time handled by not-administrative
    users. So these users can run several applications each in its own
    desktop using Xserve's CPU, RAM, etc.
    Thanks in advantage.

    No.

    You could implement a poor mans terminal services using Fast User
    Switching, OSXvnc, and Chicken of the VNC.

    If you only need one user, then OSXvnc and Chicken of the VNC
    would be easy.

    If you want multiple users, then you might be able to start
    multiple users via Fast User Switching. Then OSXvnc can be
    configured to allow separate Chicken of the VNC client attach to
    the different Fast User Switched sessions.

    But this is really rude and crude.

    Bob Harris
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  • From TT@tex---74@tiscali.it to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 07, 2006 01:38:29
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

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    If you want multiple users, then you might be able to start
    multiple users via Fast User Switching. Then OSXvnc can be
    configured to allow separate Chicken of the VNC client attach to
    the different Fast User Switched sessions.

    But if I start user A and then user B via Fast User Switching, when I
    start user B session is user A session active or is it suspended?
    If it's active, this might work. Otherwise the remote user connected to
    the not active session can't do anything.

    Or did you try it?

    Thanks.

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  • From TT@tex---74@tiscali.it to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 07, 2006 04:10:26
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system


    It's very trivial to export the display of an X11 app running on another box to your own desktop. For example, the user logs into the remote computer
    via SSH, on the remote computer has the DISPLAY environmental variable set
    to his own desktop, starts up an application like Nedit on the remote computer, and the Nedit window gets displayed on his own desktop if he has X11 running.

    But the CPU, RAM, environment, etc., used by Nedit is the server's one
    (remote computer) or the client's one (local computer) ?

    Thanks

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  • From D P Schreber@schreberdp@rayban.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 07, 2006 07:11:11
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-07, TT <tex---74@tiscali.it> wrote:
    It's very trivial to export the display of an X11 app running on another box >> to your own desktop. [...]

    But the CPU, RAM, environment, etc., used by Nedit is the server's one (remote computer) or the client's one (local computer) ?


    Remote. The only resources used locally are the screen, the keyboard
    and the mouse.


    Note: Using the words 'client' and 'server' in this context can be
    misleading. There are two services in question here, ssh and X11. The
    ssh server is running on the remote machine, offering a remote login
    service. The X11 server is running on the local machine, offering a
    remote display service.
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  • From G.T.@getnews1@dslextreme.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 07, 2006 09:42:40
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    TT wrote:
    It's very trivial to export the display of an X11 app running on another box >>to your own desktop. For example, the user logs into the remote computer >>via SSH, on the remote computer has the DISPLAY environmental variable set >>to his own desktop, starts up an application like Nedit on the remote >>computer, and the Nedit window gets displayed on his own desktop if he has >>X11 running.


    But the CPU, RAM, environment, etc., used by Nedit is the server's one (remote computer) or the client's one (local computer) ?


    The remote computer. The only thing being used on the local computer is
    the display. The application gets run on the remote computer and sends
    its display to the local computer. (I hate to get into the whole server
    vs client thing with X11 because it only leads to initial confusion).

    Greg
    --
    "All my time I spent in heaven
    Revelries of dance and wine
    Waking to the sound of laughter
    Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
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  • From Bob Harris@nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 08, 2006 00:39:16
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article
    <1144399109.814692.96150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
    "TT" <tex---74@tiscali.it> wrote:

    -cut-

    If you want multiple users, then you might be able to start
    multiple users via Fast User Switching. Then OSXvnc can be
    configured to allow separate Chicken of the VNC client attach to
    the different Fast User Switched sessions.

    But if I start user A and then user B via Fast User Switching, when I
    start user B session is user A session active or is it suspended?
    If it's active, this might work. Otherwise the remote user connected to
    the not active session can't do anything.

    Or did you try it?

    Thanks.

    The following is from the OSXvnc web site (see URL below):

    What Are "Multiple Desktop Sessions"?

    http://www.redstonesoftware.com/multidesktop.html

    Simply put, Mulitple Desktop Sessions allow more than one person
    to use your Macintosh computer at the same time!

    Apple introduced "Fast User Switching" which allowed additional
    users to log on to the mac without the original user logging out.
    Instead, the original user's desktop was carefully tucked away and
    could be switched back to when needed.

    Now in Tiger (Mac OS 10.4) all those desktops can be accessed
    simultaneously using OSXvnc. This allows multiple users to be
    logged in, each using his or her own desktop on the same Mac. For
    example:

    While my daughter plays her computer game on the monitor attached
    to the computer... While I access my files through the Finder and
    develop with XCode... While my son can launch iTunes and have it
    stream music over AirTunes... My wife can read emails and check
    weather on her Dashboard. All at the same time!

    details can be found here:
    http://www.redstonesoftware.com/multidesktop.html
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