• How Many TM Backups are Necessary

    From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, December 27, 2020 13:00:55
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    How many backups do you keep on a TM drive? As the storage capacity of
    the TM drive dictates, older backups will be deleted. Any file that
    existed on your drive at that point in time, still exists in all
    successive backups--unless you deleted that file between the deleted
    folder's backup, and the next time you backed up.

    I've had to go back and find old files maybe 20 times since TM's
    inception. All the archives I accessed were within a day or two for
    excepty for a couple that might have been a week old.

    Do I really need 3 years and 4T of backups of my lone 1T internal
    drive? It seems more logical to do an annual CC Clone or SuperDupe, and
    never use more than 2T of regular backup storage capacity. I figure
    that still gets me a few months of weeklies and a full month of daily's.

    How many backups (in time) do you retain?

    [------ o ------]

    Not required reading: The situation that makes me ponder these issues...

    1) I updated my system to catalina 11/23/20. TimeMachine began
    "Preparing Backup" until mid-December.

    2) First Aid on the TM drive, found bad links and corrected. Drive now
    tests clean.

    3) Of the 3.7T in backups I deleted 1.7 of it. 1 full year of weekly
    backups. It took 4 days to empty the trash of at least 8 million
    files/links.

    I still have 58 individual backup files, representing a few monts of
    weeks and a month's worth of dailies. It has again begun "Preparing Backup...", now for a week. It has initiated no .inprogress file yet.

    I now note that, moving chronologically backwards through the
    directory, the first 33 folders all have a "Recovery" folder, and that
    the last 25 do not. I assume this is what TM has been doing all week.
    So I have less than a week left for it to complete. But do I ever
    really need this many backups?

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, December 27, 2020 22:02:38
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    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB
    HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not
    always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5"
    internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that
    holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD
    crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).


    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    How many backups do you keep on a TM drive? As the storage capacity of
    the TM drive dictates, older backups will be deleted. Any file that
    existed on your drive at that point in time, still exists in all
    successive backups--unless you deleted that file between the deleted folder's backup, and the next time you backed up.

    I've had to go back and find old files maybe 20 times since TM's
    inception. All the archives I accessed were within a day or two for
    excepty for a couple that might have been a week old.

    Do I really need 3 years and 4T of backups of my lone 1T internal
    drive? It seems more logical to do an annual CC Clone or SuperDupe, and never use more than 2T of regular backup storage capacity. I figure
    that still gets me a few months of weeklies and a full month of daily's.

    How many backups (in time) do you retain?

    [------ o ------]

    Not required reading: The situation that makes me ponder these issues...

    1) I updated my system to catalina 11/23/20. TimeMachine began
    "Preparing Backup" until mid-December.

    2) First Aid on the TM drive, found bad links and corrected. Drive now
    tests clean.

    3) Of the 3.7T in backups I deleted 1.7 of it. 1 full year of weekly backups. It took 4 days to empty the trash of at least 8 million files/links.

    I still have 58 individual backup files, representing a few monts of
    weeks and a month's worth of dailies. It has again begun "Preparing Backup...", now for a week. It has initiated no .inprogress file yet.

    I now note that, moving chronologically backwards through the
    directory, the first 33 folders all have a "Recovery" folder, and that
    the last 25 do not. I assume this is what TM has been doing all week.
    So I have less than a week left for it to complete. But do I ever
    really need this many backups?
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  • From Steven Petruzzellis@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, December 28, 2020 08:57:29
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 2:00:58 PM UTC-7, gtr wrote:
    How many backups do you keep on a TM drive? As the storage capacity of
    the TM drive dictates, older backups will be deleted. Any file that
    existed on your drive at that point in time, still exists in all
    successive backups--unless you deleted that file between the deleted folder's backup, and the next time you backed up.

    I've had to go back and find old files maybe 20 times since TM's
    inception. All the archives I accessed were within a day or two for
    excepty for a couple that might have been a week old.

    Do I really need 3 years and 4T of backups of my lone 1T internal
    drive? It seems more logical to do an annual CC Clone or SuperDupe, and never use more than 2T of regular backup storage capacity. I figure
    that still gets me a few months of weeklies and a full month of daily's.

    How many backups (in time) do you retain?

    [------ o ------]

    Not required reading: The situation that makes me ponder these issues...

    1) I updated my system to catalina 11/23/20. TimeMachine began
    "Preparing Backup" until mid-December.

    2) First Aid on the TM drive, found bad links and corrected. Drive now
    tests clean.

    3) Of the 3.7T in backups I deleted 1.7 of it. 1 full year of weekly backups. It took 4 days to empty the trash of at least 8 million files/links.

    I still have 58 individual backup files, representing a few monts of
    weeks and a month's worth of dailies. It has again begun "Preparing Backup...", now for a week. It has initiated no .inprogress file yet.

    I now note that, moving chronologically backwards through the
    directory, the first 33 folders all have a "Recovery" folder, and that
    the last 25 do not. I assume this is what TM has been doing all week.
    So I have less than a week left for it to complete. But do I ever
    really need this many backups?


    Keep in mind your accusation is based on you not understanding context.
    Your game:

    * Snit spoke of Dustin Cook having Carroll's flood bot code .
    * Dustin Cook does not have Carroll's flood bot code.

    Then you insist I lied. But you leave out the context.

    1) Snit spoke of Carroll's flood bot code, and what can be known without
    the code
    2) Dustin Cook responded by speaking of what he can know HAVING THE CODE.
    3) Snit spoke of Dustin Cook having Carroll's flood bot code.
    4) Dustin Cook does not have Carroll's flood bot code.

    You start at step three and then insist that if one starts there it LOOKS
    like you were unfairly accused.

    In short: you prove yourself a functionally illiterate fraud again.

    --
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, December 28, 2020 21:12:13
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    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB
    HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5" internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?

    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.


    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back everything up every x hours via snapshots?

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.

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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, December 28, 2020 21:46:39
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    On 2020-12-29 03:12:13 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB
    HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not
    always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5"
    internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that
    holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to
    restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD
    crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you
    mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?

    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.


    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back
    everything up every x hours via snapshots?

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.

    Every day?

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  • From Stephen - frelwizzer@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 00:26:29
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    On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 8:12:21 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5" internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?
    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.
    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back everything up every x hours via snapshots?
    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.
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    It should not matter because the apparent origin on a post does not matter, it's the content that counts. If the content is a bunch of rambling baby
    sh*t. We know what that means.

    Where did you go to school?

    Just rubbish from him. But Gremlin has left tech behind and is simply holding me at fault for the deeds of himself. I am not going to play like Shadow didn't help me with Linux and I am indebted to him for his time. Gremlin
    has this thread to study and should learn to seem like he is no longer complete
    ignorant from this day forward... as always he stumbled when it mattered.
    It was Gremlin who stated that he and his hired winos used to shoplift all
    the time and it was free entertainment. I'm getting a lot of killed files.
    I'm guessing the troll is unable to control his own actions. It is utter
    bliss to not read that crap. Now that Shadow realized how successful Gremlin is at portraying himself as the 'target' he sees this isn't nearly as unbelievable
    as it was claimed.

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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 19:00:37
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    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-29 03:12:13 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB
    HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not
    always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5"
    internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that >>> holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to >>> restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD >>> crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you
    mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?

    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.


    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back
    everything up every x hours via snapshots?

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.

    Every day?

    Yep as mentioned in my original post. Well, I should say almost daily.
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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 19:51:36
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    On 2020-12-30 01:00:37 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-29 03:12:13 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB >>>>> HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not >>>>> always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5"
    internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that >>>>> holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to >>>>> restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD >>>>> crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD). >>> ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you
    mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?

    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.


    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back >>>> everything up every x hours via snapshots?

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and
    disconnect.

    Every day?

    Yep as mentioned in my original post. Well, I should say almost daily.

    Are you familiar with TimeMachineEditor? I used it for a few years ago, because I felt like backups were occasionally hobbling my system. You
    wouldn't have to connect, tell TM to backup and unmount. It would just
    do it everyday at 8pm or whatever.

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  • From Steve Carroll@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 04:02:04
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:51:40 PM UTC-7, gtr wrote:
    On 2020-12-30 01:00:37 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-29 03:12:13 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB >>>>> HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not >>>>> always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5" >>>>> internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that >>>>> holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to
    restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD >>>>> crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you >>>> mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly? >>>
    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.


    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back >>>> everything up every x hours via snapshots?

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and >>> disconnect.

    Every day?

    Yep as mentioned in my original post. Well, I should say almost daily.
    Are you familiar with TimeMachineEditor? I used it for a few years ago, because I felt like backups were occasionally hobbling my system. You wouldn't have to connect, tell TM to backup and unmount. It would just
    do it everyday at 8pm or whatever.


    I have been around to fully figure out the depths of the guy's insanity.

    Everyone is Gregory Hall -- the oldest gag in the book. He says that he
    uses ChromeOS, while of course he never installed it on bare metal and really worked with it. What did Jeff Relf assume from the lying imbecile? That Gregory
    Hall bozo has nothing to waste but time. He has nothing else. Especially
    not a job.

    Just look at Gregory Hall's posts and look at Jeff Relf's, there is nothing for us to learn from a small time player like Gregory Hall. But whatever,
    let him keep making a blockhead of himself. He can make another sock to pat himself on the back. Yup. Of course this is what we have to face. Cretins
    who clearly have no reason for being here other than to attack Jeff Relf.

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  • From Stephen Petruzzellis@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, January 01, 2021 00:36:58
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 1:26:31 AM UTC-7, Stephen Petruzzellis wrote:
    On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 8:12:21 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5" internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to
    restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?
    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.
    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back everything up every x hours via snapshots?
    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.
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    It should not matter because the apparent origin on a post does not matter, it's the content that counts. If the content is a bunch of rambling baby sh*t. We know what that means.

    Where did you go to school?

    Just rubbish from him. But Gremlin has left tech behind and is simply holding
    me at fault for the deeds of himself. I am not going to play like Shadow didn't help me with Linux and I am indebted to him for his time. Gremlin
    has this thread to study and should learn to seem like he is no longer complete
    ignorant from this day forward... as always he stumbled when it mattered.
    It was Gremlin who stated that he and his hired winos used to shoplift all the time and it was free entertainment. I'm getting a lot of killed files. I'm guessing the troll is unable to control his own actions. It is utter bliss to not read that crap. Now that Shadow realized how successful Gremlin is at portraying himself as the 'target' he sees this isn't nearly as unbelievable
    as it was claimed.

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    Dustin Cook the Fraud


    Shadow says that he uses Android, while you know he never saw it on a
    real system and fully used it. Several people keep responding to Shadow. Frankly I don't denounce Ian McCall for his hissy fit but, truly, I can't
    see why he stays here at all. Ian McCall is hoping for conversations as
    seen in a Facebook group and free forums make him want to puke.

    I think it is already over.


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  • From Smit@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, January 01, 2021 04:47:33
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    On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 6:00:45 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-29 03:12:13 +0000, Ant said:

    gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2020-12-28 04:02:38 +0000, Ant said:

    Mine is about 3-4 months in an old USB2 external 2.5" Seagate 500 GB >>> HDD. I usually back up the 2012 13.3" MBP (Mojave v10.5.6) daily (not >>> always connected). I also have an external USB to connect to a 3.5" >>> internal 2 TB SATA HDD (three 666 GB partitions and one is for TM that >>> holds way more and is backed up every other month or so). I only had to
    restore a few files a few times and the whole drive once (original HDD >>> crashed due to a drop and replaced with a brand new Micron 500 GB SSD).
    ...
    What's the size of your internal HD, which is, I presume, the one you >> mention back up daily. And how big is the drive you back up monthly?

    500 GB Micron SSD which I mentioned.


    I assume you do all backups manually then, rather than letting TM back >> everything up every x hours via snapshots?

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.

    Every day?
    Yep as mentioned in my original post. Well, I should say almost daily.
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    "You are never up to anything good" said Peter Kohlmann's husband. Sadly
    this is what results when dangerously negative pride takes over Peter Kohlmann's psyche.

    Oh goodness, that is just tons of crapola. I can not tolerate that. Denseness is denseness and there are all kinds of people who are OK with it. Too
    many are even lawyers. That is the problem now and newer instructors don't understand why older people are better, people from earlier generations
    should know better than to fall for the indoctrination BS.

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  • From Lyndon@lyndon@someisp.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, January 18, 2021 09:05:47
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    In article <uLydnU_SI4oQA3fCnZ2dnUU7-ImdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Yes sir. Physically connect HDD, tell TM to back up, unmount/eject, and disconnect.

    That is the way I do TimeMachine. Every so often connect up an external harddrive, backup and disconnect.
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