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TRR wrote:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's
and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.
Thanks for any advice. G'Day all !! TRR

Does your Mac have a microphone input? This is actually a line-in, not
a standard mic-in (Apple's proprietory mics were amplified), and you
can just plug your turntable into this input. You will need a cheap
adapter to go from your RCA cables to the mini jack. See here (stereo
mini to 2 RCA)
<http://www.audiogear.com/AudioAdaptersMini.html>
Probably can find it at Kmart or RadioShack.

Plug in your turntable and set the audio input to line-in using the
Sound panel of System Preferences. You should be able to hear your LP
on the Mac speakers.

Now, to digitize the input, you need some software. SparkME, which is
a free version of a commercial recording product, is perfect for the
job. Get it from their execrable web page here:
<http://www.tcelectronic.com/SparkME>
Fortunately, it appears that their 8-year-old web designers didn't
work on thier product.

SparkME will allow you to clean up the digital recordings and split
into files that you could then import into iTunes to use either as
digital files or burn to CD.

I've used this setup to digitize several audio cassettes, and it works
quite well. Hope this helps -- and that you respect intellectual
property rights in making use of this technology.

Eric
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Eric_Salathe@hotmail.com (Eric Salathe) wrote:

TRR wrote:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.
Thanks for any advice. G'Day all !! TRR

Does your Mac have a microphone input? This is actually a line-in, not
a standard mic-in (Apple's proprietory mics were amplified), and you
can just plug your turntable into this input. You will need a cheap
adapter to go from your RCA cables to the mini jack. See here (stereo
mini to 2 RCA)
<http://www.audiogear.com/AudioAdaptersMini.html>
Probably can find it at Kmart or RadioShack.

Plug in your turntable and set the audio input to line-in using the
Sound panel of System Preferences. You should be able to hear your LP
on the Mac speakers.

Now, to digitize the input, you need some software. SparkME, which is
a free version of a commercial recording product, is perfect for the
job. Get it from their execrable web page here:
<http://www.tcelectronic.com/SparkME>
Fortunately, it appears that their 8-year-old web designers didn't
work on thier product.

SparkME will allow you to clean up the digital recordings and split
into files that you could then import into iTunes to use either as
digital files or burn to CD.

I've used this setup to digitize several audio cassettes, and it works
quite well. Hope this helps -- and that you respect intellectual
property rights in making use of this technology.

Eric

What about the newer G4 systems. There's a speaker and headphone output
jack in back, but nothing for a microphone. Is there some sort of USB
or Firewire device for these machines?

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:15:08 -0500, sbt wrote
(in message <230720030814263533%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>):

In article <3F1EA3EE.8020007@earthlink.net>, TRR
<trrusty@earthlink.net> wrote:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's
and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that
started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.
Thanks for any advice. G'Day all !! TRR

Toast comes with "CD Spin Doctor" and the cables to connect your stereo
to the line-in on your Mac. This works pretty well for me, though you
might want an audio-editing app to get rid of even more "pops" and
"hisses" once you have the tune on your Mac.

I don't see anything in the documentation to show that is supports USB inputs such as on the iMac.

Hud

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In article <0001HW.BB448E4800A1B432F0386600@news.texas.net>,
Hud <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:15:08 -0500, sbt wrote
(in message <230720030814263533%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>):

In article <3F1EA3EE.8020007@earthlink.net>, TRR
<trrusty@earthlink.net> wrote:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's >> and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that
started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'. >> Thanks for any advice. G'Day all !! TRR

Toast comes with "CD Spin Doctor" and the cables to connect your stereo
to the line-in on your Mac. This works pretty well for me, though you
might want an audio-editing app to get rid of even more "pops" and
"hisses" once you have the tune on your Mac.

I don't see anything in the documentation to show that is supports USB inputs
such as on the iMac.

I have used it with a Griffin iMic on a TiBook, plug it in and the
gadget shows up in the Sound system preference and just works.
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In article <3F1EA3EE.8020007@earthlink.net>,
TRR <trrusty@earthlink.net> wrote:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's
and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.
Thanks for any advice. G'Day all !! TRR

Check out Griffin Technologies' Final Vinyl software; works with their
iMic or PowerWave USB audio interface. http://www.griffintechnology.com/software/software_imic.html
--
Chuck Reti
Detroit MI
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Hud <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

I don't see anything in the documentation to show that is supports USB inputs >such as on the iMac.

Griffin's iMic will fill the bill nicely.


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Eric Salathe wrote:

Plug in your turntable and set the audio input to line-in using the
Sound panel of System Preferences. You should be able to hear your LP
on the Mac speakers.

You can't just plug a turntable into a line-in, it needs a preamplifier
with RIAA frequency compensation. Either get a stand-alone preamp or use
an existing "home stereo" amp and connect the Mac to a line output (i.e
tape out).

/BR

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In article <mjXTa.19493$KF1.307830@amstwist00>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Roth?= <br@infundo.com> writes:

Eric Salathe wrote:

Plug in your turntable and set the audio input to line-in using the
Sound panel of System Preferences. You should be able to hear your LP
on the Mac speakers.

You can't just plug a turntable into a line-in, it needs a preamplifier
with RIAA frequency compensation. Either get a stand-alone preamp or use
an existing "home stereo" amp and connect the Mac to a line output (i.e
tape out).

It depends on the nature of the turntable.

Those used by Square Dance callers include an amplifier of up to 80 watts.
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In article <dF6dnbCjgrpLxoKiXTWJhw@comcast.com>,
Chuck Reti <chuckr*@No*SPAMmac.com.invalid> wrote:

In article <3F1EA3EE.8020007@earthlink.net>,
TRR <trrusty@earthlink.net> wrote:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.
Thanks for any advice. G'Day all !! TRR

Check out Griffin Technologies' Final Vinyl software; works with their
iMic or PowerWave USB audio interface. http://www.griffintechnology.com/software/software_imic.html

I spoke with someone in the Griffin booth last week at MacWorld. I had recently purchased their PowerWave box and in the directions, it says
you need a preamp or a receiver (which I have neither). The guy in the
booth said that you do not need the preamp if you use their Final Vinyl software.


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TRR <trrusty@earthlink.net> writes:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's
and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.

I asked this same question a few months ago, and some kind sould pointed me
to
http://www.macworld.com/2002/05/bc/31analog/
which has a tutorial you may find helpful.

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SUPER !!! Thank you ! .....TRR

Phil Stripling wrote:

TRR <trrusty@earthlink.net> writes:

There has to be an app or way of digitising music from my old vinyl LP's >>and tapes then storing them in iTunes. I see MP3's in newsgroups that >>started as analog audio and think it would be nice to save my 'Oldies'.

I asked this same question a few months ago, and some kind sould pointed me to
http://www.macworld.com/2002/05/bc/31analog/
which has a tutorial you may find helpful.

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Björn Roth <br@infundo.com> wrote in message news:<mjXTa.19493$KF1.307830@amstwist00>...

Eric Salathe wrote:

Plug in your turntable and set the audio input to line-in using the
Sound panel of System Preferences. You should be able to hear your LP
on the Mac speakers.

You can't just plug a turntable into a line-in, it needs a preamplifier
with RIAA frequency compensation. Either get a stand-alone preamp or use
an existing "home stereo" amp and connect the Mac to a line output (i.e
tape out).

Oops, forgot that -- I had actually done this from a tape using a boom
box and the headphone jack. Yes, but presumably anyone doing this will
have a receiver/tuner and can use either the tape-out jack or the
headphone jack to line-in.

-Eric
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 3:48:36 -0500, Eric Salathe wrote
(in message <b7b98e6d.0307241044.22d961c@posting.google.com>):

Hud <nospam@nospam.net> wrote

I don't see anything in the documentation to show that is supports USB
inputs
such as on the iMac.

No need to use digital (USB) input. Both CRT and LCD iMacs have an
analogue line-in port. While noisier than an external A/D converter
like the iMic from griffin, this is probably just fine for many
applications. And it is essentially free -- $2 if you need an RCA to
mini converter. Many cam corders come with an RCA/mini cable for
connecting to the TV, so you may already have one.

-Eric

Apparently there is some confusion about the analog line in port on the iMac. I got the same response from tech support from the people who make Toast. My 700MHZ iMac does not have an analog port. It has firewire, ethernet, USB a regular minijack for headphones and an output for the silly little round speakers but nothing else. I have Via Voice from IBM and the headphones hook up to the USB port.

Hud

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<tomstiller-D1A4A8.17574525072003@news.comcast.giganews.com>, Tom
Stiller <tomstiller@comcast.net> wrote:

In article <0001HW.BB4702BD001326EBF0305600@news.texas.net>,
Former <good@luck.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 3:48:36 -0500, Eric Salathe wrote
(in message <b7b98e6d.0307241044.22d961c@posting.google.com>):

Hud <nospam@nospam.net> wrote

I don't see anything in the documentation to show that is supports USB >> inputs
such as on the iMac.

No need to use digital (USB) input. Both CRT and LCD iMacs have an analogue line-in port. While noisier than an external A/D converter
like the iMic from griffin, this is probably just fine for many applications. And it is essentially free -- $2 if you need an RCA to
mini converter. Many cam corders come with an RCA/mini cable for connecting to the TV, so you may already have one.

-Eric

Apparently there is some confusion about the analog line in port on
the iMac. I got the same response from tech support from the people
who make Toast. My 700MHZ iMac does not have an analog port. It has firewire, ethernet, USB a regular minijack for headphones and an
output for the silly little round speakers but nothing else. I have
Via Voice from IBM and the headphones hook up to the USB port.

My 700 MHz iMac (CRT) _does_ have an analog input connection. It has
two headset jacks on the front panel while the side panel sports a mic/line-in jack and the usual assortment of FireWire, USB and
connectivity ports. My old PlainTalk mic works well in the mic-in jack
as the aux output from my changer.

The first flat-panel iMacs (both 700 MHz and 800 MHz) are lacking a
line-in jack. There was about a year there, starting about the time of
the original TiBook's introduction, where Apple eliminated the line-in
from almost all models. It returned in late 2002/early 2003.

--
Spenser
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:32:16 -0500, sbt wrote
(in message <250720031531336923%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>):
Snip>

The first flat-panel iMacs (both 700 MHz and 800 MHz) are lacking a
line-in jack. There was about a year there, starting about the time of
the original TiBook's introduction, where Apple eliminated the line-in
from almost all models. It returned in late 2002/early 2003.

Thanks,
That explains alot.
Hud

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"Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> writes:

Correct. The manual says that when you choose the "Connected to
Turntable" option in the Equalizer window, it applies the RIAA curve
to your recording.

So the only real potential problem here is round-off error when
processing the EQ. If the software can digitize and process at 24 bit (truncating to 16 when rendering to MP3 or CD), then the round-off
error will be in the bits that are truncated.

If, on the other hand, it digitizes and processes the audio at
16-bits, then the EQ will introduce distortions that may or may not be
audible to your ears. In which case, an external preamp that can
apply the curve to the analog signal will sound better (assuming it's
a good quality preamp, of course.)

-- David
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