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In article <sytech-1306031852590001@ool-44c0a130.dyn.optonline.net>,
sytech@yahoo.com (sytech) wrote:

I have pasted my posting of several days ago below to provide context for this posting.

I just want to run this by everyone, just so I make sure I'm proceeding properly:

First, I will be using an Apple utility called "Drive Setup" to intialize
the HD on my G4. The main reasons that I will be using that is because
it's by Apple and it's also the only utility I've tried that "sees" the internal HD and gives the message "this disk can be initialized".

Then I will be using my OS 9.04 CD to install the System onto the internal
HD of my G4. After that I will run Software updater control panel and
will get myself to OS 9.1

What I want to do after that is to transfer the data on the PowerCenter
166 which I've been using for the last 3 weeks onto the internal HD of my
G4 using the filesharing (or whatever it's called) setup via ethernet
cable. I'm not sure how to set this up. I did it several years ago but
have forgotten.

Any advice and comments will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

Posted June 10, 2003:

I appreciate the considerable feedback that I've gotten to my questions

over the last week.

I never did explain what precipitated my questions: About a month ago I
was running my 400 Mhz. G4 with 600+ MB of RAM and foolishly did something (software related) which caused my data and applications to disappear.
Some of my Apps were quite old like MS-Works 3.0 & Quicken 98 etc..I won't bore you with the particulars but I'd tried Norton Utilities, Disk Warrior and Data Rescue and Symantec Tech support with no results.

My brother who is a Systems Engineer and an Electrical Engineer friend of mine both believe that a software quirk (again, it's a long story) caused
the directory or VTOC to become corrupted or lost. I'm not about to spend
a huge amount for a data recovery service because I was able to recover
some critical data and some apps from some backups and am temporarily
using an old PowerCenter 166.

Anyway, I plan to initialize the HD on my G4 (because all the attempts
above have failed) and start from scratch. I have the original 9.04 Installation disk and will install that and then go to 9.1 or maybe 9.2 (anyone have an opinion on this?)

Having read the feedback about whether to "upgrade" to OSX I have decided
not to, My old applications I am told, may be problematic even when used
in "Classic" mode because someone told me that only the "plain vanilla" Classic is problem free.

What I need to know is the following:

I have a new LaCie Firewire external HD which I want to use as one of the backups for the G4 HD when I get it up and running and to use as a "boot" disc if I run into problems. My question is suppose I drag (copy) the
entire G4 HD to the LaCie Firewire external HD. Will I be able to boot
and run from that disc?

Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

Did you ever get answers to your difficulties? If you're still in a bind
send me a note about your current state of solution and perhaps we can
get it ironed out.

I may have copies of some of those ancient apps too. I'm a packrat with
old hardware and software, though most of that old stuff won't run on
your G4.

Oh, and about running old apps in classic, well you don't have to run in classic. You can install 9.0.4 on the external drive and select it as
your startup disk and you can run any apps you want from your older collection. There's really no reason not to move to X. Classic can be a
dog though and I always find it much faster just to reboot into 9 on my
G3 or G4 when I want to run an older application, which isn't often.

John
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The first thing I'd do after installing 9.04 is download the updaters to
9.1, 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 from Apple and update it. Another thing you might want
to consider doing is picking up a PCI ATA/100/133 hard disk controller card
and running your hard disk off that if it's a ATA/100/133 hard disk. Or
even replacing your internal hard disk with a bigger/faster modern drive
with a big cache.

Moving files around and reinstalling systems is a pain - so you might as
well do everything you might want to do in the near future right now so you don't have to deal with it later.

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Yet Another John <john.siple@SPAMTRAPcomcast.net> wrote:

I may have copies of some of those ancient apps too. I'm a packrat with
old hardware and software, though most of that old stuff won't run on your G4.

Oh, and about running old apps in classic, well you don't have to run in classic. You can install 9.0.4 on the external drive and select it as your startup disk and you can run any apps you want from your older collection. There's really no reason not to move to X. Classic can be a dog though and
I always find it much faster just to reboot into 9 on my G3 or G4 when I
want to run an older application, which isn't often.

In my experience installing OS X (esp. the later versions) DOES change
the OS 9 disk/partition. If he doesn't need OS X then keeping the disk
purely OS 9 has advantages, its more stable.

--
madiba
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