• -lc on 11.0

    From Siri Cruise@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.unix.programmer on Friday, January 15, 2021 11:37:21
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    So what incantation replaces -lc on
    libtool -dynamic ... -lc ...

    Thank your Apple, kids.

    Thanks, Apple.

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  • From Shadow@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, January 15, 2021 15:30:27
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    On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 12:37:34 PM UTC-7, Siri Cruise wrote:
    So what incantation replaces -lc on
    libtool -dynamic ... -lc ...

    Thank your Apple, kids.

    Thanks, Apple.

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    Being an open format as it is, usenet will never go away but it'll never
    be very useful. Which do you think is the better troll? Shadow or John
    Gohde? I vote for John Gohde; only because he occasionally does understand what he reads, even if, sadly, he forgets it sometimes days later. Shadow
    has been tracking him to deeply see the depths of John Gohde's flooding.
    It is trivial to pick by bragging about a few special cases unrepresentative from what's something more common like Windows. What is more important from
    an advocacy point of view are the ordinary events.

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  • From Siri Cruise@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, January 15, 2021 19:32:34
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    In article
    <b515e421-d4ff-44ae-97ad-1802f15f012an@googlegroups.com>,
    Shadow <frelwizzen@gmail.com> wrote:

    Being an open format as it is, usenet will never go away but it'll never
    be very useful. Which do you think is the better troll? Shadow or John Gohde? I vote for John Gohde; only because he occasionally does understand what he reads, even if, sadly, he forgets it sometimes days later. Shadow has been tracking him to deeply see the depths of John Gohde's flooding.
    It is trivial to pick by bragging about a few special cases unrepresentative from what's something more common like Windows. What is more important from an advocacy point of view are the ordinary events.

    So your recommendation is don't use dynamic libraries on 11.0.
    That's helpful.

    (sw_vers -productVersion; set -x
    mkdir -p /tmp/t; cd /tmp/t
    (echo '#include <stdio.h>'; echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}') >t.c
    cc -c -o t.o t.c
    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc t.o
    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib t.o)

    10.9.5
    + mkdir -p /tmp/t
    + cd /tmp/t
    + echo '#include <stdio.h>'
    + echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}'
    + cc -c -o t.o t.c
    + /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc t.o
    ld: warning: -macosx_version_min not specified, assuming 10.8
    + /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib t.o
    ld: warning: -macosx_version_min not specified, assuming 10.8
    Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
    "_puts", referenced from:
    _t in t.o
    ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64 /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault .xctoolchain/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed


    11.0.1
    +-zsh:2> mkdir -p /tmp/t
    +-zsh:2> cd /tmp/t
    +-zsh:3> echo '#include <stdio.h>'
    +-zsh:3> echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}'
    +-zsh:4> cc -c -o t.o t.c
    +-zsh:5> /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc t.o
    ld: library not found for -lc
    fatal error: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault .xctoolchain/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
    +-zsh:6> /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib t.o
    ld: warning: object file (t.o) was built for newer macOS version
    (11.0) than being linked (10.4)
    Undefined symbols for architecture arm64:
    "_puts", referenced from:
    _t in t.o
    ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture arm64
    fatal error: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault .xctoolchain/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed

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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, January 16, 2021 09:27:54
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    In message <chine.bleu-C4C6A1.19323315012021@reader.eternal-september.org> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In article
    <b515e421-d4ff-44ae-97ad-1802f15f012an@googlegroups.com>,
    Shadow <frelwizzen@gmail.com> wrote:

    So your recommendation is don't use dynamic libraries on 11.0.
    That's helpful.

    Do not respond to the bot-generated shit.

    10.9.5
    11.0.1

    There's a lot of years in between these two versions. Have you compared
    man pages?

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  • From Siri Cruise@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, January 16, 2021 01:55:39
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <slrns05ccq.2e3a.g.kreme@m1mini.local>,
    Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

    In message <chine.bleu-C4C6A1.19323315012021@reader.eternal-september.org> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In article
    <b515e421-d4ff-44ae-97ad-1802f15f012an@googlegroups.com>,
    Shadow <frelwizzen@gmail.com> wrote:

    So your recommendation is don't use dynamic libraries on 11.0.
    That's helpful.

    Do not respond to the bot-generated shit.

    10.9.5
    11.0.1

    There's a lot of years in between these two versions. Have you compared
    man pages?

    10.15.7 acts the same as 10.9.5

    man libtool refers to man ld. man ld tells how to specify
    libraries and frameworks but not which to specify to get what was
    libSystem in 10.*

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  • From Silver 'The Shill' Slimer@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, January 16, 2021 14:21:31
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 2:27:57 AM UTC-7, Lewis wrote:
    In message <chine.bleu-C4C6A...@reader.eternal-september.org> Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In article
    <b515e421-d4ff-44ae...@googlegroups.com>,
    Shadow <frelw...@gmail.com> wrote:

    So your recommendation is don't use dynamic libraries on 11.0.
    That's helpful.
    Do not respond to the bot-generated shit.

    10.9.5
    11.0.1

    There's a lot of years in between these two versions. Have you compared
    man pages?

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    other actors and I didn't understand what any of it was about'
    Moore: 'Ah, yes I expect that's the thing I'm in.'


    You are as clever as a gibber monkey. Any inconsolable hopeless insomniac could easily do the same. At times, fantasy is more valuable than facts.

    John Gohde just wiped the floor with Theo. Really, those of you who troll
    are not able to restrain John Gohde anymore. John Gohde shared a specific series of urls several times now, and invited Theo to show which ones
    aren't true and provide the testimony to support his assertion. Not one
    single time has Theo done so.

    -
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  • From Krzysztof Mitko@invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:19:16
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Siri Cruise wrote:

    In article
    <b515e421-d4ff-44ae-97ad-1802f15f012an@googlegroups.com>,
    Shadow <frelwizzen@gmail.com> wrote:

    Being an open format as it is, usenet will never go away but it'll never >> be very useful. Which do you think is the better troll? Shadow or John
    Gohde? I vote for John Gohde; only because he occasionally does understand >> what he reads, even if, sadly, he forgets it sometimes days later. Shadow >> has been tracking him to deeply see the depths of John Gohde's flooding. >> It is trivial to pick by bragging about a few special cases
    unrepresentative
    from what's something more common like Windows. What is more important from
    an advocacy point of view are the ordinary events.

    So your recommendation is don't use dynamic libraries on 11.0.
    That's helpful.

    (sw_vers -productVersion; set -x
    mkdir -p /tmp/t; cd /tmp/t
    (echo '#include <stdio.h>'; echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}') >t.c
    cc -c -o t.o t.c
    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc t.o
    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib t.o)

    10.9.5
    + mkdir -p /tmp/t
    + cd /tmp/t
    + echo '#include <stdio.h>'
    + echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}'
    + cc -c -o t.o t.c
    + /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc t.o
    ld: warning: -macosx_version_min not specified, assuming 10.8
    + /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib t.o
    ld: warning: -macosx_version_min not specified, assuming 10.8
    Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
    "_puts", referenced from:
    _t in t.o
    ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64 /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault .xctoolchain/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed


    11.0.1
    +-zsh:2> mkdir -p /tmp/t
    +-zsh:2> cd /tmp/t
    +-zsh:3> echo '#include <stdio.h>'
    +-zsh:3> echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}'
    +-zsh:4> cc -c -o t.o t.c
    +-zsh:5> /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc t.o
    ld: library not found for -lc
    fatal error: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault .xctoolchain/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
    +-zsh:6> /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib t.o
    ld: warning: object file (t.o) was built for newer macOS version
    (11.0) than being linked (10.4)
    Undefined symbols for architecture arm64:
    "_puts", referenced from:
    _t in t.o
    ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture arm64
    fatal error: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault .xctoolchain/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed

    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Develope r/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk t.o

    ?

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  • From Siri Cruise@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, January 17, 2021 02:38:24
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <ru12v4$41u$1@dont-email.me>,
    Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> wrote:

    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Develope r/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk t.o

    I had to add macosx_version_min, or I got a warning about 10.4.

    (sys=$(sw_vers -productVersion); echo $sys; set -x
    mkdir -p /tmp/t; cd /tmp/t
    (echo '#include <stdio.h>'; echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}') >t.c
    clang -c -o t.o t.c
    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot $P
    -macosx_version_min $sys t.o)

    11.0.1
    +-zsh:55> mkdir -p /tmp/t
    +-zsh:55> cd /tmp/t
    +-zsh:56> echo '#include <stdio.h>'
    +-zsh:56> echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}'
    +-zsh:57> clang -c -o t.o t.c
    +-zsh:58> /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platfo rm/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk -macosx_version_min 11.0.1 t.o

    lipo -info /tmp/t/t.dylib
    Non-fat file: /tmp/t/t.dylib is architecture: arm64

    file /tmp/t/t.dylib
    /tmp/t/t.dylib: Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library
    arm64


    Thank you for the proper 11.0 incantation.

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  • From Smit@frelwizzen@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, January 18, 2021 02:17:46
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 3:38:36 AM UTC-7, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <ru12v4$41u$1...@dont-email.me>,
    Krzysztof Mitko <inv...@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> wrote:

    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Develope
    r/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk t.o
    I had to add macosx_version_min, or I got a warning about 10.4.

    (sys=$(sw_vers -productVersion); echo $sys; set -x
    mkdir -p /tmp/t; cd /tmp/t
    (echo '#include <stdio.h>'; echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}') >t.c
    clang -c -o t.o t.c
    /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot $P
    -macosx_version_min $sys t.o)

    11.0.1
    +-zsh:55> mkdir -p /tmp/t
    +-zsh:55> cd /tmp/t
    +-zsh:56> echo '#include <stdio.h>'
    +-zsh:56> echo 'void t(void) {puts("t");}'
    +-zsh:57> clang -c -o t.o t.c
    +-zsh:58> /usr/bin/libtool -dynamic -o t.dylib -lc -syslibroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platfo rm/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk -macosx_version_min 11.0.1 t.o

    lipo -info /tmp/t/t.dylib
    Non-fat file: /tmp/t/t.dylib is architecture: arm64

    file /tmp/t/t.dylib
    /tmp/t/t.dylib: Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library
    arm64


    Thank you for the proper 11.0 incantation.
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    Thanks to Apd and his 'followers' you now need a whitelist (which I set
    up for AZ Code and slrn). Trust me, for the most part I stopped giving
    him what he deserves (even though I want to). If people start up with
    him again I will not be able to stop myself... as I hate him too much
    to not. I'm referring to real posters here, not Apd's friends, who never
    do as we want anyway. The only way that I could overlook AZ Code's constant demand for customizing because of undefined problems or goofy features
    is if I enjoyed the substantial amount of lies its community have been
    feeding Apd since 2002. Of course my timely statement stands sincere
    and correct. He makes false accusation to multiple groups of people who
    are like the grass when elephants fight, but that's a stuck up jerk for
    you. What Shadow and you care about isn't a factor. Apd can only appreciate things from the viewpoint of a sociopath.


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