1. Forum
  2. USENET
  3. comp.sys.mac.system

  • Is OSX built on unix

    From Nooch@nooch@clown.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 17:44:17
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.


    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Ilgaz Ocal@ilgaz_ocal@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 00:49:53
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-14 00:44:17 +0300, "Nooch" <nooch@clown.com> said:

    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.

    Unless you are trolling (seems so) OS X has own FreeBSD LAYER, OS X is
    in fact Mach Kernel and both have nothing to do with Ubuntu Linux or
    any Linux.

    Ilgaz


    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From hairy.biker@hairy.biker@gmail.com (Andy Hewitt) to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 22:49:57
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:

    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.

    Yes, Mac OSX is built on FreeBSD.

    --
    Andy Hewitt ** FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS
    Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor)
    <http://andyhewitt.webhop.net/>
    (updated Jan 2006)
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From bobbagoose@bobbagoose@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 14:53:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Yes, it is.

    Ubuntu is built on Linux (free) not Unix (not free).

    Ubuntu has its place. OSX has its place.

    Ubuntu is good. OSX is better (don't ask me to justify this, it really
    isn't necessary).

    I like Ubuntu. I love OSX.

    Ubuntu has lots of good open source software. OSX has lots of good open
    source software and lots of great software (iLife, iWork, MS Office,
    Final Cut, Adobe CS, Quark..........)

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Ian Gregory@foo@bar.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 22:07:12
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-13, Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:
    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.

    Ubuntu is derived from Debian GNU/Linux
    Mac OS X is derived from NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP

    For more about the history of Mac OS X see:

    http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/history.html

    Ian

    --
    Ian Gregory
    http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Nooch@nooch@clown.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 19:10:35
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    The new ubuntu looks just OSX

    Linux/UNIX it's all the same.

    Nooch

    "Ian Gregory" <foo@bar.invalid> wrote in message news:4a80cgFrmkrbU1@individual.net...
    On 2006-04-13, Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:
    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.

    Ubuntu is derived from Debian GNU/Linux
    Mac OS X is derived from NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP

    For more about the history of Mac OS X see:

    http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/history.html

    Ian

    --
    Ian Gregory
    http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/


    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Ian Gregory@foo@bar.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 00:07:13
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-13, Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:

    The new ubuntu looks just OSX

    Do you mean it looks just *like* Mac OS X"? Well I don't give
    a flying fsck what Ubuntu looks like. A photo of Angelina Jolie
    looks like Angelina Jolie but I know which I would prefer to
    find in my bed.

    All GUI apps that run under Ubuntu are X11 clients and I have
    never run an X11 server on my iBook. None of the GUI apps I run
    on my iBook will run under Ubuntu. I would say that these are
    fairly significant differences.

    Of course computers are just tools, and the tasks I use my iBook
    for could also be achieved using a commodity x86 box running
    Ubuntu or Windows. Ubuntu is a fine OS which has the twin benefits
    of being Open Source and free (as in beer). However, Mac OS X has
    other advantages which make it the preferred OS for many.

    Ian

    --
    Ian Gregory
    http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From David Magda@dmagda+trace060409@ee.ryerson.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 21:27:57
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    "bobbagoose" <bobbagoose@gmail.com> writes:

    Yes, it is.

    Ubuntu is built on Linux (free) not Unix (not free).

    (Open)Solaris is free, and it's UNIX(tm).

    --
    David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>
    Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
    the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
    under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Tim McNamara@timmcn@bitstream.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 20:27:52
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <4a87dhFs4otrU1@individual.net>,
    Ian Gregory <foo@bar.invalid> wrote:

    On 2006-04-13, Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:

    The new ubuntu looks just OSX

    Do you mean it looks just *like* Mac OS X"? Well I don't give a
    flying fsck what Ubuntu looks like. A photo of Angelina Jolie looks
    like Angelina Jolie but I know which I would prefer to find in my
    bed.

    All GUI apps that run under Ubuntu are X11 clients and I have never
    run an X11 server on my iBook. None of the GUI apps I run on my iBook
    will run under Ubuntu. I would say that these are fairly significant differences.

    Of course computers are just tools, and the tasks I use my iBook for
    could also be achieved using a commodity x86 box running Ubuntu or
    Windows. Ubuntu is a fine OS which has the twin benefits of being
    Open Source and free (as in beer). However, Mac OS X has other
    advantages which make it the preferred OS for many.

    Stop feeding the troll.
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Steve Hix@sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 18:58:09
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1hdr8ql.gr4oxz18d4zclN%hairy.biker@gmail.com>,
    hairy.biker@gmail.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:

    Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:

    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.

    Yes, Mac OSX is built on FreeBSD.

    Ubuntu, on the other hand, is not built on Unix; Linux is not Unix,
    although it resembles it quite a bit.
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Steve Hix@sehix@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 18:59:22
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <_TA%f.133$UG5.73@fe12.lga>, "Nooch" <nooch@clown.com>
    wrote:

    The new ubuntu looks just OSX

    Not really, no.

    Linux/UNIX it's all the same.

    Not really. There are similarities; there are also fairly profound differences.
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Tim Crowley@timmyturmoil@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 13, 2006 19:12:14
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system


    Nooch wrote:
    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.


    hahahaha

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From johnny bobby bee@useraddshine_eh@yahoo.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 06:43:12
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    bobbagoose wrote:
    Ubuntu is good. OSX is better (don't ask me to justify this, it really
    isn't necessary).


    Not necessary? There's no need to feed a troll by passing off personal preference as fact! Just because _you_ like OS X better, doesn't mean
    that it is.

    I like Ubuntu. I love OSX.


    I love Ubuntu, and i like OS X just fine. Does it mean that Ubuntu is
    better? Nope.

    --
    vuja de:
    The feeling that you've *never*, *ever* been in this situation before.
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Mathue@mathu_e@spymac.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 00:30:52
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <OCz%f.63$b33.57@fe08.lga>, Nooch <nooch@clown.com> wrote:

    Is the Mac os built on Unix

    FreeBSD. The Mach Kernal.


    like ubuntu is only it's free.

    Uh, say again?

    --
    MT - Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.


    101010
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From bobbagoose@bobbagoose@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 06:37:31
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    "bobbagoose" <bobbago...@gmail.com> writes:
    Yes, it is.
    Ubuntu is built on Linux (free) not Unix (not free).
    (Open)Solaris is free, and it's UNIX(tm).

    bobbagoose wrote:
    Ubuntu is good. OSX is better (don't ask me to justify this, it really
    isn't necessary).
    Not necessary? There's no need to feed a troll by passing off personal >preference as fact! Just because _you_ like OS X better, doesn't mean
    that it is.
    I like Ubuntu. I love OSX.

    I love Ubuntu, and i like OS X just fine. Does it mean that Ubuntu is
    better? Nope.


    I see people have quoted me. Erm..... I made those comments whilst
    drunk. I know drunk in charge of a Mac is never good, and I know it's
    not an excuse. I guess all my normal, logical and unbiased thought
    processes went out of the window. I did retract the post, but it looks
    like it slipped through. I promise to use my brain in future.

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Randy H@rhigging@alph10.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 15:39:53
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tim crawly is an asshole.

    "Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1144980734.494165.274410@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

    Nooch wrote:
    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.


    hahahaha



    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Chris Menzel@cmenzel@remove-this.tamu.edu to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 21:10:33
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 13 Apr 2006 14:53:41 -0700, bobbagoose <bobbagoose@gmail.com> said:
    Ubuntu is built on Linux (free) not Unix (not free).

    FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD. All Unix. All free. Even the species of Unix underlying OS X, OpenDarwin, is free.

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From bobbagoose@bobbagoose@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 14:51:36
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    OMG I thought i clearly explained what happened above. Obviously i
    stepped on one too many toes there. yes my knowledge of Unix/Linux
    isn't 100% and my Mac knowledge even less. Please leave me alone now :-S

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Tim Lance@lance_1012@hotmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 18:52:47
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:51:36 -0500, bobbagoose wrote
    (in article <1145051496.189363.3120@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

    OMG I thought i clearly explained what happened above. Obviously i
    stepped on one too many toes there. yes my knowledge of Unix/Linux
    isn't 100% and my Mac knowledge even less. Please leave me alone now :-S


    Uh, shut your eyes, don't open these messages, etc.

    --

    Tim
    lance_1012@hotmail.com

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From bobbagoose@bobbagoose@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 15, 2006 00:02:10
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    oh yeah

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Tim Lance@lance_1012@hotmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 15, 2006 08:09:42
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:02:10 -0500, bobbagoose wrote
    (in article <1145084530.867821.251450@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):

    oh yeah


    : ))

    --

    Tim
    lance_1012@hotmail.com

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From shamino@shamino@techie.com (David C.) to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 15, 2006 19:33:12
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    "Nooch" <nooch@clown.com> writes:

    Is the Mac os built on Unix like ubuntu is only it's free.

    I'm not sure what question you're asking, but.....

    Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, like many others. It is based on free
    (as in freedom, not as in beer) software.

    Mac OS X is not a Linux/UNIX distribution. It has a UNIX-derived kernel
    at its core, and some parts of it are free. The overall package,
    however, is quite commercial and not free.

    A quick description of what Mac OS X is:

    - A Microkernel (based on the IBM Microkernel, based on Mach 3.0, IIRC)

    - A BSD UNIX-derived open source kernel (called Darwin) running over the
    microkernel.

    - Two non-free, non-open API layers that run over the microkernel and
    UNIX layer:
    - Carbon - a set of C-based APIs based on the classic Mac OS APIs
    - Cocoa - a set of Objective-C-based APIs based on the NextStep
    APIs.

    - Three non-free, non-open GUI layers:
    - Quartz - for 2D graphics
    - Open GL - for 3D graphics
    - QuickTime - for multimedia

    - A PDF-based metafile system

    - Many bundled applications, some free, some not-free, including:
    - The Apache web server
    - SAMBA (for Windows-compatible file sharing)
    - AppleShare-compatible file sharing
    - The Safari web browser
    - All kinds of userful utilities
    - An X11 server
    - Developer tools (a proprietary environment wrapped around the free
    gcc compiler and gdb debugger, plus libraries, headers,
    documentation and sample code.)

    -- David
    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Chris Menzel@cmenzel@remove-this.tamu.edu to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 15, 2006 20:54:20
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 14 Apr 2006 14:51:36 -0700, bobbagoose <bobbagoose@gmail.com> said:
    OMG I thought i clearly explained what happened above. Obviously i
    stepped on one too many toes there. yes my knowledge of Unix/Linux
    isn't 100% and my Mac knowledge even less. Please leave me alone now.

    Is this in response to my pointing out that there are free varieties of
    unix? Hm. Was only intended as a helpful information. Guess I'll have
    to add smilies next time. ;-)

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Chris Menzel@cmenzel@remove-this.tamu.edu to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, April 16, 2006 04:18:56
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 15 Apr 2006 20:54:20 GMT, Chris Menzel <cmenzel@remove-this.tamu.edu> said:
    On 14 Apr 2006 14:51:36 -0700, bobbagoose <bobbagoose@gmail.com> said:
    OMG I thought i clearly explained what happened above. Obviously i
    stepped on one too many toes there. yes my knowledge of Unix/Linux
    isn't 100% and my Mac knowledge even less. Please leave me alone now.

    Is this in response to my pointing out that there are free varieties of
    unix? Hm. Was only intended as a ...

    piece of...

    helpful information. Guess I'll have to add smilies next time. ;-)

    --- Synchronet 3.18b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113