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    From bobbagoose@bobbagoose@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 02:58:13
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    http://makemeswitch.blogspot.com/

    This guy is trying to get funds together to buy an iMac. A worthy cause
    I'm sure you'll agree. If you've got a few bucks sitting in PayPal,
    then throw em his way. I don't normally help people with such blatent
    begging attempts, but for some reason I want to see this guy succeed.

    I don't want this to turn into a discussion about whether he should be
    doing this, and whether or not he deserves a free Mac. Direct those
    sort of comments to his blog, as they will have much more weight there.
    I'm just helping him get the word out.

    gaz

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  • From Howard S Shubs@howard@shubs.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 08:49:18
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1145008693.554637.268150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
    "bobbagoose" <bobbagoose@gmail.com> wrote:

    This guy is trying to get funds together to buy an iMac. A worthy cause
    I'm sure you'll agree. If you've got a few bucks sitting in PayPal,
    then throw em his way. I don't normally help people with such blatent
    begging attempts, but for some reason I want to see this guy succeed.

    Why should we care?

    --
    We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams,
    Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams.
    from "Ode", Arthur O'Shaughnessy
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  • From bobbagoose@bobbagoose@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 06:11:17
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    As I said in my original post. I don't want this to be a discusison
    about whether you care, or if he should be doing this. When I first
    heard about this I thought, 'Why should I care?', but after reading
    what he had to say, I thought why not? I've got nothing to lose, and if
    my small donation can help this guy out then great.

    And before I get some sort of backlash saying why didn't you donate the
    money to charity...I regularly donate around 5% of my earnings to
    various charities accross the world, and this is just a couple of bucks
    to help a guy out. So why not?

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  • From Howard S Shubs@howard@shubs.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 13:39:31
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1145020277.034284.145900@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
    "bobbagoose" <bobbagoose@gmail.com> wrote:

    So why not?

    A reasonable answer.

    --
    We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams,
    Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams.
    from "Ode", Arthur O'Shaughnessy
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  • From G.T.@getnews1@dslextreme.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 10:39:39
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    bobbagoose wrote:
    As I said in my original post. I don't want this to be a discusison
    about whether you care, or if he should be doing this. When I first
    heard about this I thought, 'Why should I care?',

    Why should I care? I want a new Mac, too, but can't buy one right now, either. So, again, why should I care?

    Greg
    --
    "All my time I spent in heaven
    Revelries of dance and wine
    Waking to the sound of laughter
    Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
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  • From devilsrejection@devilsrejection@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 12:40:01
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hey guys, Stefan here from http://makemeswitch.blogspot.com

    Just wanted to say that the people who have donated apparently cared
    enough to give me a dollar or two. I'm not forcing anyone to do it;
    they just like the angle I'm coming from.

    I mean my life is pretty busy, and saving money is difficult, you all
    saw the current rig I use, a 5 year old laptop.

    So please, stop arguing. If you donated, thanks! If you didn't then
    thanks for checking out my site, if you can pass it along to someone
    you think would be interested then it's much appreciated.

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  • From John Steinberg@seesig@bottom.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 17:50:25
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    <devilsrejection@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hey guys, Stefan here from http://makemeswitch.blogspot.com

    Just wanted to say that the people who have donated apparently cared
    enough to give me a dollar or two. I'm not forcing anyone to do it;
    they just like the angle I'm coming from.


    Wow, what's more despicable? The lazy slacker who appears to be of
    otherwise sound mind and body behaving like a common beggar, or those
    who donate to his selfish cause rather than any one of thousands of far worthier and life saving issues?

    You know, like children who go to bed hungry every night, or the
    elderly who have to choose between their medications and eating, or
    children suffering from leukemia, or battered women, ad nauseam.

    As far as I'm concerned, donations should stop immediately, and Stefan,
    if he had any personal self-respect and dignity at all, would take his ill-gotten gains and donate them to a truly worthwhile cause.

    At least the Uni student selling pixels to fund his education provided
    some kind of ROI even if his goals were completely self-serving.

    What are you teaching kids when they not just go begging, but do so
    without any good reason?

    Get a job, sell on eBay, wash cars, mow lawns, paint houses, do
    anything other than this. This isn't initiative, it's being a
    contemptible bum.

    Taking or giving money in this situation is morally and ethically
    bankrupt and those who do so, even if they also donate to the truly
    needy, should feel some serious shame

    I wish I had never seen this thread or read this child's blog.


    Signed,

    Utterly disgusted

    --
    -John Steinberg
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  • From nospam@nospam@see.signature (Richard E Maine) to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 16:19:58
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    John Steinberg <seesig@bottom.invalid> wrote:

    I wish I had never seen this thread or read this child's blog.
    ...
    Utterly disgusted

    I'm not quite that emphatic on it, but I tend in that direction. Note
    that the "child" is 19 years old - legally an adult. And I find it a bit anomalous to be begging for a 20" Intel iMac as a charity case. A 17"
    one wouldn't do? Or a mini? Hey, I'd like a 20" Intel iMac also. My
    carpoolmate is debating buying his first Mac, but he's looking at a mini
    as a way to test the waters without a big investment. Indeed, I have
    quite a few friends who would certainly appreciate having a Mac for
    free. I'd put them all ahead of some random leech on the net ... except
    that most of them would refuse it if I offered to give one to them. (I
    did give one to my wonderful mother-in-law, but that's a bit of a
    special case, and the Mac doesn't come close to paying off my "debt"
    there. Besides, it was worth it just in the time it saved me compared to keeping her old Windows box running.)

    P.S. Along with the 20" Intel iMac, could someone send me a nice sports
    car?

    --
    Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience;
    email: my first.last at org.domain| experience comes from bad judgment.
    org: nasa, domain: gov | -- Mark Twain
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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 17:22:25
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <140420061750254502%seesig@bottom.invalid>, John Steinberg <seesig@bottom.invalid> wrote:

    You know, like children who go to bed hungry every night, or the
    elderly who have to choose between their medications and eating, or
    children suffering from leukemia, or battered women, ad nauseam.

    As far as I'm concerned, donations should stop immediately, and Stefan,
    if he had any personal self-respect and dignity at all, would take his ill-gotten gains and donate them to a truly worthwhile cause.

    You know, in the time it took you to rant you could have done good in
    the world by your own definition of good.

    So... <http://www.balderstone.ca/stfu.jpg>
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  • From G.T.@getnews1@dslextreme.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 17:38:36
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system


    <devilsrejection@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1145043601.505842.56860@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    Hey guys, Stefan here from http://makemeswitch.blogspot.com

    Just wanted to say that the people who have donated apparently cared
    enough to give me a dollar or two. I'm not forcing anyone to do it;
    they just like the angle I'm coming from.

    I mean my life is pretty busy, and saving money is difficult, you all
    saw the current rig I use, a 5 year old laptop.


    Boohoo, mine's 6 years old and works.

    Greg


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  • From John Steinberg@seesig@bottom.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 14, 2006 20:53:32
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Richard E Maine wrote:

    I'm not quite that emphatic on it, but I tend in that direction. Note
    that the "child" is 19 years old - legally an adult.

    Noted.

    P.S. Along with the 20" Intel iMac, could someone send me a nice sports
    car?

    Evidently in this brave new world all one needs to do is blog and beg
    for any stuff you might desire. Guess I'll now have to blog about not
    using the Internet as a donation tool for personal gain.

    --
    -John Steinberg
    email: not@thistime.invalid
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  • From Michelle Steiner@michelle@michelle.org to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:59:20
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1145020277.034284.145900@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
    "bobbagoose" <bobbagoose@gmail.com> wrote:

    As I said in my original post. I don't want this to be a discusison
    about whether you care, or if he should be doing this. When I first
    heard about this I thought, 'Why should I care?', but after reading
    what he had to say, I thought why not? I've got nothing to lose, and
    if my small donation can help this guy out then great.

    And before I get some sort of backlash saying why didn't you donate
    the money to charity...I regularly donate around 5% of my earnings to various charities accross the world, and this is just a couple of
    bucks to help a guy out. So why not?

    Because I have better things to do with my money.

    --
    Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
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  • From void * clvrmnky()@clvrmnky.invalid@hotmail.com.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 15:20:22
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    bobbagoose wrote:
    As I said in my original post. I don't want this to be a discusison
    about whether you care, or if he should be doing this. When I first
    heard about this I thought, 'Why should I care?', but after reading
    what he had to say, I thought why not? I've got nothing to lose, and if
    my small donation can help this guy out then great.

    Who are you talking to?
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