• Windows driver for Apple USB modem ?

    From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 09:55:46
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hello all,

    The only application that I still need on a windows platform is the application that comes with my banking account. It uses a modem on a
    phone line as my bank won't support internet connection.

    This banking software was the sole reason for me to install bootcamp
    and winXp on my iMac. It was also the only reason why I decided to buy
    an USB modem. My old modem has a RS 232 serial connector and can't be
    used on my iMac. The RS 232 connector itself is bigger than the
    complete new USB modem which is, I admit, very sexy.

    I cannot get the modem to work in winXp. Apple website says that the
    USB modem is not supported on the win platform.

    Any suggestions?

    tia, and kind regards,

    Hans

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@leo@greatbasin.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 01:43:45
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <44434a02$0$11611$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:


    I cannot get the modem to work in winXp. Apple website says that the
    USB modem is not supported on the win platform.

    Any suggestions?

    Patience? The whole Apple-Windows thing is only a couple of weeks old.
    Let it breathe first ;-) BTW, patience may or may not work.

    leo

    --
    <http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>
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  • From Robert Moir@robspamtrap+usenet@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 10:15:46
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hans wrote:
    Hello all,

    The only application that I still need on a windows platform is the application that comes with my banking account. It uses a modem on a
    phone line as my bank won't support internet connection.

    This banking software was the sole reason for me to install bootcamp
    and winXp on my iMac. It was also the only reason why I decided to buy
    an USB modem. My old modem has a RS 232 serial connector and can't be
    used on my iMac. The RS 232 connector itself is bigger than the
    complete new USB modem which is, I admit, very sexy.

    I cannot get the modem to work in winXp. Apple website says that the
    USB modem is not supported on the win platform.

    Any suggestions?

    If you can't wait to see how the patience suggestion plays out, which is
    where I'd start personally, you might invest in a USB modem just for the windows side of things. I know it might seem like a bit of a shame to spend money when you probably don't need to but it isn't that expensive, and it is
    a quick score.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=18268151317&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=91758

    I'm posting the ebuyer UK shop prices because, well, I live in the UK. That should still give you an idea of price and availability.


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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 14:08:47
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-17 10:43:45 +0200, Leonard Blaisdell <leo@greatbasin.com> said:

    In article <44434a02$0$11611$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:


    I cannot get the modem to work in winXp. Apple website says that the
    USB modem is not supported on the win platform.

    Any suggestions?

    Patience? The whole Apple-Windows thing is only a couple of weeks old.
    Let it breathe first ;-) BTW, patience may or may not work.

    leo

    Thank you for your kind response.

    As a matter of fact I was not being impatient at all as I did not
    realize the modem I bought was only released several weeks ago. I just happened to see it in the shop and I bought it, thinking it would help
    me out.

    I'm sure that Apple would sell lots of this modem if they'd develop
    windows and linux drivers for it.

    Hans

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  • From Robert Moir@robspamtrap+usenet@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 14:03:26
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hans wrote:

    Thank you for your kind response.

    As a matter of fact I was not being impatient at all as I did not
    realize the modem I bought was only released several weeks ago. I just happened to see it in the shop and I bought it, thinking it would help
    me out.

    I'm sure that Apple would sell lots of this modem if they'd develop
    windows and linux drivers for it.

    It's possible, indeed likely, that they're just rebadging someone else's
    modem chipset and there are generic drivers out there that would work, if
    you knew what chipset that was.


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  • From Michelle Steiner@michelle@michelle.org to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 08:46:27
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <4443854f$0$3319$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
    Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    Patience? The whole Apple-Windows thing is only a couple of weeks
    old. Let it breathe first ;-) BTW, patience may or may not work.

    leo

    Thank you for your kind response.

    As a matter of fact I was not being impatient at all as I did not
    realize the modem I bought was only released several weeks ago. I
    just happened to see it in the shop and I bought it, thinking it
    would help me out.

    It's not that the modem was released only several weeks ago, it's that
    Boot Strap was released just a couple of weeks ago. The modem was
    released last Fall.

    --
    Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
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  • From Nick@nick@nospam.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 22:58:38
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <OeN0g.38078$8o.17410@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>,
    "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm sure that Apple would sell lots of this modem if they'd develop
    windows and linux drivers for it.

    It's possible, indeed likely, that they're just rebadging someone else's modem chipset and there are generic drivers out there that would work, if you knew what chipset that was.

    There's no chipset for the Apple USB modem. Inside is just a telephone
    line interface, a chip or two for data buffer, and stuff for USB
    interface. The device is a softmodem. Any Windows generic driver you
    find will have to understand that the modem is on the USB bus.
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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 23:25:00
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-19 07:58:38 +0200, Nick <nick@nospam.com> said:

    In article <OeN0g.38078$8o.17410@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>,
    "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm sure that Apple would sell lots of this modem if they'd develop
    windows and linux drivers for it.

    It's possible, indeed likely, that they're just rebadging someone
    else's modem chipset and there are generic drivers out there that would
    work, if you knew what chipset that was.

    There's no chipset for the Apple USB modem. Inside is just a telephone
    line interface, a chip or two for data buffer, and stuff for USB
    interface. The device is a softmodem. Any Windows generic driver you
    find will have to understand that the modem is on the USB bus.

    Thanks so far. I've tried all predefined universal drivers in winXP as
    well as several softmodem drivers available on the net including driverguide.com but no result.

    I have many solutions for my actual problem which is connect to my bank account. One solution is to keep that ugly windows machine on my desk.
    Another solution is switch bank or buy a windows usb modem. Those
    options although practical are not what I want.

    Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem. Strange in also in the
    view that they might have a top selling product here for so many
    windows users if they'd only provide the tools to get it to work on
    windows. Imagine an Ipod without any windows support. Apple would sell
    less than 10 % of their volume I'm sure.

    Hans

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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 17:09:32
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <4446aaa4$0$26913$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem.

    What is your understanding of the word "beta" as it applies to software?

    And it's "its", not "it's" in the context you use the word.

    "Its" is the possessive, "it's" is the contraction of "it is".

    (Hi, John!)
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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 22:13:36
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-20 01:09:32 +0200, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> said:

    In article <4446aaa4$0$26913$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem.

    What is your understanding of the word "beta" as it applies to software?

    And it's "its", not "it's" in the context you use the word.
    "Its" is the possessive, "it's" is the contraction of "it is".

    (Hi, John!)

    Dank je vriendelijk John voor je buitengewoon instructieve taalkundige opmerking. Je hebt uiteraard helemaal gelijk. Ik zal er voortaan beter
    op letten.

    Translated:

    Thank you so much John for your kind corrective linguistic
    contribution. You are of course completely right in this matter. I will
    take better care in the future.

    In addition to the above I would like to make a few statements.

    1.
    I have the feeling that you are not really interested in my perception
    of the beta aspect of new software. Your comment is not only completely non-informative, in attribution to that your question and all the
    possible answers to your question can only lead to a dead end as it is absolutely unimportant to anyone what my understanding of the word
    "beta" could be.

    2.
    The fact that you are right about my grammatical misstake, more
    precisely an incorrect spelling of the genitivus (latin) of the word
    "it" , which could but not necessarily does implicate that I don't know
    the difference between the possessive "its" and the contraction of the
    words "it is", does not automatically imply that you taught me
    something new.

    3.
    Apart from leading us far off topic you are in a way kind of impolite
    to me with your criticism. As a matter of fact I am not a native
    english speaker. I have to translate every word and every sentence
    before I post something to this group.

    Be so kind to address me in my language, which is dutch, when you feel
    the need to correct me ever again when I make a forgivable mistake in
    your language. That would be brave.

    If you'd like to correspond with me in french, german or frysian that
    would be fine for me too. But as far as you showed the world up to now
    the only language in which you beat me is bullshit.

    Hans.

    Post scriptum: if you feel the need to flame me, please change my email address to the most obvious. The extension that my email address should
    have is pronounced the same as what is stated in my post. In case you
    would like to tackle me for the way I misspelled the extension of my
    email address that would at forehand be considered as a testimonium paupertatis, a testimony of poverty (of the mind and soul).

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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 22:38:03
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-20 22:13:36 +0200, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> said:

    On 2006-04-20 01:09:32 +0200, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> said:

    In article <4446aaa4$0$26913$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans
    <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem.

    What is your understanding of the word "beta" as it applies to software?

    And it's "its", not "it's" in the context you use the word.
    "Its" is the possessive, "it's" is the contraction of "it is".

    (Hi, John!)

    Dank je vriendelijk John (correctie: Dave) voor je buitengewoon
    instructieve taalkundige opmerking. Je hebt uiteraard helemaal gelijk.
    Ik zal er voortaan beter op letten.

    Translated:

    Thank you so much John (correction: Dave) for your kind corrective linguistic contribution. You are of course completely right in this
    matter. I will take better care in the future.



    Sorry for addressing John in my previous post where I intended to
    address mr Dave Balderstone.

    Hans

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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 14:42:56
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <4447eb68$0$9110$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    I have the feeling that you are not really interested in my perception
    of the beta aspect of new software.

    You made comments based on (in my opinion) unjustified assumptions
    about or a misunderstanding of Beta software. I would like to
    understand your comprehension of that term.

    Do you understand Beta software to be complete in its feature set (ie
    "Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem").

    Have you looked at the Apple pages about BootCamp, especially where it
    says "Mac hardware operates differently from PCs, and this public beta
    does not support all features of the Mac in Windows" and "Even after
    installing the Macintosh Drivers CD, the Apple Remote Control (IR),
    Apple Wireless (Bluetooth) keyboard or mouse, Apple USB Modem, MacBook
    Pro's sudden motion sensor, MacBook Pro's ambient light sensor, and
    built-in iSight camera will not function correctly when running
    Windows."?

    In the context of BootCamp being Beta software, what do those sentences
    suggest to you?
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  • From John McWilliams@jpmcw@comcast.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 14:21:53
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hans wrote:
    On 2006-04-20 22:13:36 +0200, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> said:

    On 2006-04-20 01:09:32 +0200, Dave Balderstone
    <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> said:

    In article <4446aaa4$0$26913$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans
    <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem.


    What is your understanding of the word "beta" as it applies to software? >>>
    And it's "its", not "it's" in the context you use the word.
    "Its" is the possessive, "it's" is the contraction of "it is".

    (Hi, John!)


    Dank je vriendelijk John (correctie: Dave) voor je buitengewoon
    instructieve taalkundige opmerking. Je hebt uiteraard helemaal gelijk.
    Ik zal er voortaan beter op letten.

    Translated:

    Thank you so much John (correction: Dave) for your kind corrective
    linguistic contribution. You are of course completely right in this
    matter. I will take better care in the future.

    Sorry for addressing John in my previous post where I intended to
    address mr Dave Balderstone.

    No offense taken, and I deserve a tad of deflection as I had taken Dave
    to task recently.

    But: your handling of our language is considerably better than many
    native English speakers in several countries.

    And: The thing I remember from grammar school is to sound out "it's",
    and that unfailingly tells me whether I'm using the contraction
    correctly, or whether the possessive is indeed called for. I also
    remember " All right is all wrong unless it's two words." (!) I could go
    on, but won't.

    I try to never spel or grammer lame a person unless he/she/it "starts
    it". I try also to not become a "Dutch Uncle" ! (is there an equivalent
    in your language? Here, it means a strict uncle, or uncle-like figure....)

    --
    John McWilliams

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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 23:33:45
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-20 22:42:56 +0200, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> said:

    In article <4447eb68$0$9110$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    I have the feeling that you are not really interested in my perception
    of the beta aspect of new software.

    You made comments based on (in my opinion) unjustified assumptions
    about or a misunderstanding of Beta software. I would like to
    understand your comprehension of that term.

    Do you understand Beta software to be complete in its feature set (ie "Strange that Apple gives all it's hardware away to the windows
    environment with bootcamp but forgets the modem").

    Have you looked at the Apple pages about BootCamp, especially where it
    says "Mac hardware operates differently from PCs, and this public beta
    does not support all features of the Mac in Windows" and "Even after installing the Macintosh Drivers CD, the Apple Remote Control (IR),
    Apple Wireless (Bluetooth) keyboard or mouse, Apple USB Modem, MacBook
    Pro's sudden motion sensor, MacBook Pro's ambient light sensor, and
    built-in iSight camera will not function correctly when running
    Windows."?

    In the context of BootCamp being Beta software, what do those sentences suggest to you?

    There's no difference between our mutual assumptions about beta
    software in fact.

    What happened is a miscommunication between us (handshake protocol ?)
    in a semantic discussion. The language barrier may have contributed to
    that.

    Bootcamp is a strange thing. It is a tempting project. It might be
    interpreted as a subtle way of demonstrating Apple's strength compared
    to the other platforms. We all can read the specialists about this
    topic. Perhaps bootcamp will carry the beta status forever just for
    mere political/economical/strategical reasons.

    What I wanted to share here are two things:
    1. how to get that apple usb modem to connect to windows. That's my
    personal interest, nothing more, nothing less.
    2. economic view: strange that apple presumably does not see the
    selling potential of that sexy little hardware item that could easily
    be sold to users of other platforms if only apple would offer minimal
    support to get that modem to work in different platforms. The modem I
    use now weighs a pound. It needs external power supply and a serial 232
    cable to connect. The apple modem is as little as my pinky finger. It
    is frustrating for me to have bought a potentially superb modem which I
    cannot use because there's no support provided for it where I assumed
    it would be natural to find support. Apple could sell shiploads of this
    item only if it would connect to the rest of the world.

    The issues you focus are of a different species. You seem to explain
    why apple calls its (!) bootcamp project to be beta. To me it seems
    Apple does the right thing in promoting BootCamp in a rather defensive
    way for several reasons but this matter is really distinct from the
    question why apple doesn't provide support to a potentially best
    selling platform independent hardware item.

    Hans

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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 15:46:44
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <4447fe39$0$28959$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    The issues you focus are of a different species. You seem to explain
    why apple calls its (!) bootcamp project to be beta. To me it seems
    Apple does the right thing in promoting BootCamp in a rather defensive
    way for several reasons but this matter is really distinct from the
    question why apple doesn't provide support to a potentially best
    selling platform independent hardware item.

    No, my point is that Apple explicitly says the USB modem will not work
    under the *current BETA version* of the software. You seem to be
    extending that to an assumption that Apple *never* intends to support
    the USB modem.

    That is a logically untenable position to hold, unless you have deep
    inside knowlledge of Apple's development and marketing plans, or unless
    you do not understand the concept of *beta software*.
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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 01:04:18
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-20 23:21:53 +0200, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:

    I try to never spel or grammer lame a person unless he/she/it "starts
    it". I try also to not become a "Dutch Uncle" ! (is there an equivalent
    in your language? Here, it means a strict uncle, or uncle-like
    figure....)

    The uncle is a great metaphore which has historical fundaments in my
    language too.
    If we try hard enough and if our efforts are recognised and followed by
    the mass... we could maybe manage to introduce an " American aunt" in
    the dutch vocabulary as an equivalent to the "Dutch uncle" in the
    american vocabulary.

    Presumed that bets are allowed in this forum I'd rather put my money on
    Apple releasing a driver for its modem than on us reshaping the
    vocabulary of our native languages.

    Regards,

    Hans (dutch unrestricted uncle for ages already)

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  • From mike@mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid (Mike Rosenberg) to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 19:13:35
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

    Do you understand Beta software to be complete in its feature set...

    This is just an aside, but, say, wasn't there a time when beta software
    was defined as being complete in its feature set but not yet ready for
    prime time? Seriously, I swear a remember a time, not all that many
    years ago, when _alpha_ meant the feature set was incomplete.

    --
    Mike Rosenberg
    <http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida <http://www.cafepress.com/macconsult,macconsult4> Mac-themed T-shirts <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
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  • From mike@mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid (Mike Rosenberg) to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 19:25:27
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    2. economic view: strange that apple presumably does not see the
    selling potential of that sexy little hardware item that could easily
    be sold to users of other platforms if only apple would offer minimal
    support to get that modem to work in different platforms.

    Again, you've completely missed the point: BootCamp is not yet a
    finished product! It's a beta version of a program Apple was originally planning to release with OS X 10.5, which is not due out until some time
    next year, if I recall correctly. I'd be utterly shocked if it doesn't
    support Apple's USB modem by then. Right now, though, consider it a
    favor by Apple to let early adopters test this unfinished product.

    --
    Mike Rosenberg
    <http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida <http://www.cafepress.com/macconsult,macconsult4> Mac-themed T-shirts <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 17:30:03
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1he3xah.m5n40woexjxaN%mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid>, Mike
    Rosenberg <mike@POSTTOGROUP.invalid> wrote:

    This is just an aside, but, say, wasn't there a time when beta software
    was defined as being complete in its feature set but not yet ready for
    prime time?

    No, that was "version 2" software.

    ;-)
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  • From Hans@hansepie@hotmale.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 01:44:33
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2006-04-20 23:46:44 +0200, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> said:

    In article <4447fe39$0$28959$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Hans <hansepie@hotmale.com> wrote:

    The issues you focus are of a different species. You seem to explain
    why apple calls its (!) bootcamp project to be beta. To me it seems
    Apple does the right thing in promoting BootCamp in a rather defensive
    way for several reasons but this matter is really distinct from the
    question why apple doesn't provide support to a potentially best
    selling platform independent hardware item.

    No, my point is that Apple explicitly says the USB modem will not work
    under the *current BETA version* of the software. You seem to be
    extending that to an assumption that Apple *never* intends to support
    the USB modem.

    That is a logically untenable position to hold, unless you have deep
    inside knowlledge of Apple's development and marketing plans, or unless
    you do not understand the concept of *beta software*.

    If I would have deep inside knowlegedge of Aplle's plans I would never
    ever have entered this group to gather advice of any kind.

    Second I am not a logical genious but no ignorant idiot either. If
    Apple won't provide help for the usb modem I pity them for the reasons
    I mentioned earlier and I encourage the community to take this as a
    challenge. Furthermore I advise you and others not to read beyond the
    lines I wrote.

    Personally I tend to mitigate problems that come on my way. Some
    persons tend to complicate even the most obvious trivialities. Those
    are the pityful I pray for every day.

    Hans

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  • From John McWilliams@jpmcw@comcast.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 17:16:30
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Hans wrote:
    On 2006-04-20 23:21:53 +0200, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:


    I try to never spel or grammer lame a person unless he/she/it "starts
    it". I try also to not become a "Dutch Uncle" ! (is there an
    equivalent in your language? Here, it means a strict uncle, or
    uncle-like figure....)


    The uncle is a great metaphore which has historical fundaments in my language too.
    If we try hard enough and if our efforts are recognised and followed by
    the mass... we could maybe manage to introduce an " American aunt" in
    the dutch vocabulary as an equivalent to the "Dutch uncle" in the
    american vocabulary.

    Presumed that bets are allowed in this forum I'd rather put my money on Apple releasing a driver for its modem than on us reshaping the
    vocabulary of our native languages.

    Regards,

    Hans (dutch unrestricted uncle for ages already)

    Hah! And I forgot about the o.p. entirely, as I haven't yet installed Parallels, and haven't used a modem in eons.

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    John McWilliams
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