• Bizarre web access problem solved

    From lp@gfa-basic@mint.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 10:29:26
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Some time ago I posted here looking for help about some really strange
    problems on my mac. Certain sites were dead slow, like 4 minute load times
    for the initial page and every click deeper into these sites also took
    forever. Also some sites would just absolutely not load, just blank pages
    with no errors whatsoever. But then the same site would load promptly under VPC on the same mac or my Atari hooked to the same lan sitting right next to it.

    After trying every possible fix suggested here, every mac browser ever made, gobs of web searching for tips, cache cleaners, and other things, even reinstalling, etc. nothing solved it. And the problem was on 2 macs now, as
    my shiny new G5 exhibited the same issues right out of the box.

    I had my neighbor connect his laptop, it also began to exhibit these
    problems. So what's the odds of 3 different macs, all different models with different OSX versions having the same problems? That's when I started to suspect the ISP.

    In the end a new IP from my ISP solved it. They have no clue why. The only thing different is the subnet they moved me to. There is something quite screwy going on with that particular subnet I was on!

    Many thanks to the ones that did respond to my posting, although it's
    obvious now nothing I could have done would have solved it.

    --
    FreeMiNT http://sparemint.atariforge.net/sparemint/ [Free your mind...] Atari Team http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=30472
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  • From Gnarlodious@gnarlodious@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 14:47:37
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    I've been noticing increasingly slow page loading over the past several
    months. This happens with Access Points I have used for years as I move
    around a lot. It seems to be DNS problems, since adding a DNS address in the Network Prefpanel solves the problem.

    I believe what is happening is that my Mac asks for a page address but the
    ISPs default DNS server does not respond. You can wait 30 seconds, a minute
    or 2 minutes waiting for a reply before it times out and gets the DNS from somewhere else.

    It may be a problem with certain broadband modems. Not real sure.

    -- Gnarlie


    Entity lp uttered this profundity:

    Some time ago I posted here looking for help about some really strange problems on my mac. Certain sites were dead slow, like 4 minute load times for the initial page and every click deeper into these sites also took forever. Also some sites would just absolutely not load, just blank pages with no errors whatsoever. But then the same site would load promptly under VPC on the same mac or my Atari hooked to the same lan sitting right next to it.

    After trying every possible fix suggested here, every mac browser ever made, gobs of web searching for tips, cache cleaners, and other things, even reinstalling, etc. nothing solved it. And the problem was on 2 macs now, as my shiny new G5 exhibited the same issues right out of the box.

    I had my neighbor connect his laptop, it also began to exhibit these problems. So what's the odds of 3 different macs, all different models with different OSX versions having the same problems? That's when I started to suspect the ISP.

    In the end a new IP from my ISP solved it. They have no clue why. The only thing different is the subnet they moved me to. There is something quite screwy going on with that particular subnet I was on!

    Many thanks to the ones that did respond to my posting, although it's
    obvious now nothing I could have done would have solved it.

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  • From D@ukmacposts@creative-industry.co.uk to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 08:16:58
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    lp wrote:
    Some time ago I posted here looking for help about some really strange problems on my mac. Certain sites were dead slow, like 4 minute load times for the initial page and every click deeper into these sites also took forever. Also some sites would just absolutely not load, just blank pages with no errors whatsoever. But then the same site would load promptly under VPC on the same mac or my Atari hooked to the same lan sitting right next to it.

    After trying every possible fix suggested here, every mac browser ever made, gobs of web searching for tips, cache cleaners, and other things, even reinstalling, etc. nothing solved it. And the problem was on 2 macs now, as my shiny new G5 exhibited the same issues right out of the box.

    I had my neighbor connect his laptop, it also began to exhibit these problems. So what's the odds of 3 different macs, all different models with different OSX versions having the same problems? That's when I started to suspect the ISP.

    In the end a new IP from my ISP solved it. They have no clue why. The only thing different is the subnet they moved me to. There is something quite screwy going on with that particular subnet I was on!

    Many thanks to the ones that did respond to my posting, although it's
    obvious now nothing I could have done would have solved it.

    I've had similar problems across a number of Macs. It comes back from
    time to time. My solution, which seems to work a treat, is to reboot my
    DSL modem/router (a newish netgear). This seems to clear the
    "blockage". I haven't had time to read up on the thread from which you
    were thanking people for input, so I won't push this theory to hard:
    could it be that the IP didn't fix it? Maybe in the process setting up
    the new IP your router rebooted?

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  • From lp@gfa-basic@mint.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, April 17, 2006 12:13:36
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    in article 1145287018.004643.137680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, D wrote on 4/17/06 11:16 AM:

    I've had similar problems across a number of Macs. It comes back from
    time to time. My solution, which seems to work a treat, is to reboot my
    DSL modem/router (a newish netgear). This seems to clear the
    "blockage". I haven't had time to read up on the thread from which you
    were thanking people for input, so I won't push this theory to hard:
    could it be that the IP didn't fix it? Maybe in the process setting up
    the new IP your router rebooted?

    If it was that simple I'd of solved it the first day I noticed it. ;-)))
    When I say I tried everything I really meant it. I had gone over every
    setting in the router with a fine tooth comb, rebooted everything may times. Router, modem, and the computers to no avail. Fussed around with every
    setting in OSX I could find, even MTU and so on. Probably settings no one
    else would touch in their right mind, but I was getting quite frustrated
    with it. Quite literally the ISP changed the IP address while I was on the phone. I popped the new IP into the router, rebooted the router for the umpteenth time, and presto, instantly all my problems are were gone. This
    had been an ongoing problem for several months, it was getting worse too, to the point that sites ending with *.fr stopped working. Quite strange indeed
    to say the least.

    The guy at the ISP said he was going to do some heavy diagnostics on the subnet, since it didn't logically make any sense. Maybe I'll inquire and
    see if they found out what it was. I'm still curious about the actual cause myself since it only seemed to afflict my macs. There was also some strange ping spoofing going on with my old IP, even if I shut ALL my equipment down, their logs showed that I was pinging their gateway constantly which was impossible. Could be they got someone else on this old subnet that has been hacked and/or causing these problems?

    --
    FreeMiNT http://sparemint.atariforge.net/sparemint/ [Free your mind...] Atari Team http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=30472
    L. Pursell http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic/ [AtarIRC, GFA-Basic, Hades060]


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  • From lp@gfa-basic@mint.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 15:38:50
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    in article C06936F0.464E%gfa-basic@mint.net, lp wrote on 4/17/06 12:13 PM:

    The guy at the ISP said he was going to do some heavy diagnostics on the subnet, since it didn't logically make any sense. Maybe I'll inquire and
    see if they found out what it was. I'm still curious about the actual cause myself since it only seemed to afflict my macs. There was also some strange ping spoofing going on with my old IP, even if I shut ALL my equipment down, their logs showed that I was pinging their gateway constantly which was impossible. Could be they got someone else on this old subnet that has been hacked and/or causing these problems?

    Replying to my own post I know. ;-)
    Ok the ISP didn't do as they stated. In fact my old IP was simply
    refurbished an reissued to a peecee user.

    I sent the ISP a mail on the 17th and inquired if the cause was ever found. Then suddenly the problems came back. The moment the admin read my mail
    they realized they had forgotten to put my new IP into the snooping device (bridge), or whatever it is they use to log and monitor their customers. Bingo!! MacOSX starts freaking out.

    So there you have it. This box he says is passive. Apparently it is not,
    and somehow it is altering packets or something that messes up the network layer big time.

    He removed my IP from the device and now it works fine again. Now they have
    a real problem to solve, this device won't work correctly with a Mac. ;-))

    --
    FreeMiNT http://sparemint.atariforge.net/sparemint/ [Free your mind...] Atari Team http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=30472
    L. Pursell http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic/ [AtarIRC, GFA-Basic, Hades060]


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