• Re: What's under the hood

    From johnny bobby bee@stepore@mailexcite.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, July 04, 2003 23:44:18
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    On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:03:41 -0400, GR Gaudreau wrote:


    Q: How come the Finder doesn't display directories like /usr/bin, for example?

    Q: Is there a way to make Finder do that?

    - open finder
    - in file menu - select 'Go to folder' (or command-shift-G)
    - type in /usr/bin

    that's one way.
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  • From GR Gaudreau@transop@sympatico.not to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, July 04, 2003 23:49:37
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    In article <pan.2003.07.05.03.44.18.470624@mailexcite.com>,
    "johnny bobby bee" <stepore@mailexcite.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:03:41 -0400, GR Gaudreau wrote:


    Q: How come the Finder doesn't display directories like /usr/bin, for example?

    Q: Is there a way to make Finder do that?

    - open finder
    - in file menu - select 'Go to folder' (or command-shift-G)
    - type in /usr/bin

    that's one way.

    [gr] Thanks, Johnny, I appreciate that. Do you know a way to make
    the invisible directories visible in Finder? Is there a setting
    somewhere? I find it funny that Apple makes a Unix type OS available,
    but doesn't show you the power at your disposal under the hood. Go
    figure!
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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, July 04, 2003 21:17:05
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    In article <transop-BA5799.23493704072003@nr-tor02.bellnexxia.net>, GR
    Gaudreau <transop@sympatico.not> wrote:

    Do you know a way to make
    the invisible directories visible in Finder? Is there a setting
    somewhere? I find it funny that Apple makes a Unix type OS available,
    but doesn't show you the power at your disposal under the hood. Go
    figure!

    nothing funny at all. its a macintosh and its supposed to be easy to
    use. unix is hidden. the target market is not unix geeks who want a
    command line - its the mass market who want an easy to use computer.

    for those who want to dive into the unix layer, its there and can be
    very useful. however, apple has done a decent, although not complete
    task, of hiding it. if all you wanted was a unix box there are numerous
    less expensive options.

    as for getting finder to show the unix folders, download tinkertool.

    having finder show the unix directories is not all that useful but you
    can if you want. as for learning unix, there are numerous books on
    unix, and some are macosx specific.
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  • From kbkwk@kbkwk@mac.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, July 05, 2003 00:44:50
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    In article <transop-BA5799.23493704072003@nr-tor02.bellnexxia.net>, GR
    Gaudreau <transop@sympatico.not> wrote:

    In article <pan.2003.07.05.03.44.18.470624@mailexcite.com>,
    "johnny bobby bee" <stepore@mailexcite.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:03:41 -0400, GR Gaudreau wrote:


    Q: How come the Finder doesn't display directories like /usr/bin, for example?

    Q: Is there a way to make Finder do that?

    - open finder
    - in file menu - select 'Go to folder' (or command-shift-G)
    - type in /usr/bin

    that's one way.

    [gr] Thanks, Johnny, I appreciate that. Do you know a way to make
    the invisible directories visible in Finder? Is there a setting
    somewhere? I find it funny that Apple makes a Unix type OS available,
    but doesn't show you the power at your disposal under the hood. Go
    figure!

    Open the folder using Go To Folder...; you can make an alias if you
    want to go back regularly: Command-Option-Drag the proxy icon (i.e.,
    the folder icon in the title bar).

    I don't think there's anything funny about hiding that stuff in the
    Finder -- there is little reason to access most of it from the Finder,
    there's nothing to double click, for example.
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  • From johnny bobby bee@stepore@mailexcite.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, July 05, 2003 00:59:46
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    On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 21:17:05 -0700, nospam wrote:

    nothing funny at all. its a macintosh and its supposed to be easy to
    use. unix is hidden. the target market is not unix geeks who want a
    command line - its the mass market who want an easy to use computer.


    you're right, not for geeks who want _just_ a command line. but wannabe
    geeks that want a *nix that's easier to use, with a kick-ass GUI.


    as for getting finder to show the unix folders, download tinkertool.


    yup, tinkertool will show hidden files/folders and much much more. http://www.bresink.de/osx/TinkerTool2.html

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  • From GR Gaudreau@transop@sympatico.not to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, July 06, 2003 07:28:48
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <KQKNa.366165$ro6.8903864@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>,
    Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote:

    GR Gaudreau wrote:

    [gr] Thanks, Johnny, I appreciate that. Do you know a way to make
    the invisible directories visible in Finder? Is there a setting
    somewhere? I find it funny that Apple makes a Unix type OS available,
    but doesn't show you the power at your disposal under the hood. Go
    figure!

    Look around for a file called "hidden" or ".hidden"

    It contains a list of some folders that should be hidden. I'm not sure
    if the ones you mentioned are in that list, though, or are built in somehow.


    [grgaud] Okay, thanks, I've found it. I've also downloaded
    TinkerToy, which is cool, not to mention freeware.
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  • From anno4000@anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel) to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 13:30:17
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    GR Gaudreau <transop@sympatico.not> wrote in comp.sys.mac.system:
    In article <3f06ad12$0$13739$afc38c87@news.easynet.co.uk>,
    Ian Gregory <i.h.gregory@herts.ac.uk> wrote:

    GR Gaudreau wrote:
    HI all,
    I've been rooting around using the terminal and command line, and I'm discovering a whole bunch of stuff I didn't know I had with OS 10.2.6.

    Q: Where would one go to find out just what's under the hood; I mean, what commands and programs are available for the command line, for example?

    [Ian Gregory]
    If you no objection to using old fashion books get hold of a
    copy of O'Reilly's "Mac OS X for Unix Geeks". I read it before
    buing my iBook.

    [grgaud] I love old fashion books. Thanks for the recomendation,
    it'll be a nice book to read while on vacation--coming up soon.

    _Mac OS X for Unix Geeks_ is a good book, but it's specifically
    geared to readers who know Unix and want to learn about the OS X
    peculiarities. You may prefer one that takes the other approach
    and assumes you know earlier versions of Mac OS and want to learn
    about the Unix component. Practically all other books about Mac OS
    X do that (if they concern themselves with the Unix part at all).

    Anno
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  • From grgaud@spam-hater@killall.spam to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 19:55:13
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    <snip>
    [grgaud] I love old fashion books. Thanks for the recomendation,
    it'll be a nice book to read while on vacation--coming up soon.

    _Mac OS X for Unix Geeks_ is a good book, but it's specifically
    geared to readers who know Unix and want to learn about the OS X peculiarities. You may prefer one that takes the other approach
    and assumes you know earlier versions of Mac OS and want to learn
    about the Unix component. Practically all other books about Mac OS
    X do that (if they concern themselves with the Unix part at all).

    Anno

    [grgaud] Actually, Anno, what I'd like to learn is what command line
    tools are available with OS X. I ran Linux on a PC for about two
    years, so I'm no stranger to Unix. I'm no Unix Geek, but I'm no Unix
    slouch either.

    I bought an iMac book a few eeks ago ("How To Do Everything With Your
    iMac") but it's far from teaching you "everything". I'ts a user book
    and what I'd like is to look at what's under the hood.

    --
    True e-mail address: transop at sympatico dot ca
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