• Re: TurboInternet / TurboMem

    From Jerry Kindall@jerrykindall@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, July 05, 2003 23:53:55
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    In article <bTSdnUZhjMkQx5qiXTWJkQ@gbronline.com>, Wesley Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote:

    Got these two items from MacUnicorn.

    TurboInternet seems to work OK, although
    when it says the speed up is 2x it's really
    more like 1.2x

    But I'm a bit leery of running the other
    thing--an app that claims to play games with
    other apps' memory spaces. Sounds like an
    easy way to crash something.

    Anyone have info to confirm or relieve my
    skepticism?

    I believe "Mac Unicorn Software" is the same guy as "Gadget Software."
    He's done "business" under at least half a dozen different names. The
    first few times he actually stole other people's software and put his "company's" name on it. Now he's merely offering software that can't
    possibly do what it claims to do. Turbo Mem, for instance, is an
    application. It has no kernel extensions in it whatsoever. Therefore
    it cannot possibly affect Mac OS X's memory allocation. Certainly the
    _same_ utility could not work on both Mac OS X and Mac OS X versions
    back to 8.6, but this is the developer's claim. The "ghost-color
    menus" bug mentioned in the ReadMe for a past version is a well-known
    RealBasic bug which was fixed some time ago, indicating that this
    program is in fact written in RealBasic. You do not write memory
    management software in RealBasic. No, I'm sorry, you just do not.

    TurboInternet _at_most_ twiddles some TCP/IP parameters and I bet it
    doesn't even do that. Again, there is no way a single program could
    work for both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, as completely different types of
    system patching would be needed by the two OSs to achieve the claimed
    features. Not that it does any system patching at all; it is, again,
    an application. There is no way for it to know what pages a browser is requesting so they can be cached or analyzed for prefetching. There is
    no way for it to intercept download requests and automatically resume
    them. Certainly there's no way it can act as a firewall and there's no
    way it could encrypt all Internet traffic. For that to work, every
    site on the Internet would have to know how to decrypt it! This
    feature isn't even addressed in the Readme but is prominent in the
    screenshot shown on the Web site.

    Consider: why would a programmer who could write advanced software like
    an Internet accelerator and a memory manager also write simple programs
    like a free disk space monitor and an environmental audio player --
    stuff anyone could throw together in an afternoon with RealBasic? I'll
    leave this as an exercise for the reader.

    At least he's not trying to charge money for his products now, although
    I strongly discourage you from "donating."

    I doubt you would get any crashes from running any of this software
    (aside from the application itself, of course). Mac OS X won't let applications crash other applications. I'd be more worried about a
    virus or some kind of password theft.

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  • From Wesley Groleau@wesgroleau@despammed.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Sunday, July 06, 2003 16:07:31
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    Jerry Kindall wrote:
    I believe "Mac Unicorn Software" is the same guy as "Gadget Software."
    He's done "business" under at least half a dozen different names. The
    first few times he actually stole other people's software and put his

    Hmmm.....

    "company's" name on it. Now he's merely offering software that can't possibly do what it claims to do. Turbo Mem, for instance, is an application. It has no kernel extensions in it whatsoever. Therefore
    it cannot possibly affect Mac OS X's memory allocation. Certainly the
    _same_ utility could not work on both Mac OS X and Mac OS X versions
    back to 8.6, but this is the developer's claim. The "ghost-color

    Although it's suspicious, it's certainly possible for a
    Carbon app to detect which OS is running and do different
    things. I took a chance and ran it a while. It does detect
    which App has focus and optimize or pretend to optimize that,
    but it would be difficult to determine whether it is really
    doing anything worthwhile.

    TurboInternet _at_most_ twiddles some TCP/IP parameters and I bet it

    It is capable of triggering a dialout, and it does make
    a measurable increase in the speed of a download. If
    the ethernet interface is up, however, it thinks that
    "you are already on the internet" and won't dial out.

    doesn't even do that. Again, there is no way a single program could
    work for both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, as completely different types of
    system patching would be needed by the two OSs to achieve the claimed features. Not that it does any system patching at all; it is, again,
    an application. There is no way for it to know what pages a browser is requesting so they can be cached or analyzed for prefetching. There is

    Well, I don't know whether that's true or not. But I know how
    to find out.

    no way for it to intercept download requests and automatically resume

    I have run two applications that CAN do what you just said.
    I do not know whether this one does.

    them. Certainly there's no way it can act as a firewall and there's no
    way it could encrypt all Internet traffic. For that to work, every
    site on the Internet would have to know how to decrypt it! This

    I certainly was suspicious of that one!

    Consider: why would a programmer who could write advanced software like
    an Internet accelerator and a memory manager also write simple programs
    like a free disk space monitor and an environmental audio player --

    I have been writing simple and complex software for fifteen years.
    I have never let the latter make me think I'm too good for the former.

    At least he's not trying to charge money for his products now, although
    I strongly discourage you from "donating."

    No chance of that without prrof that it really does something
    more than a slight speed up in downloading. Which it definitely
    does, though as I said, is the only thing I have any evidence of.

    I doubt you would get any crashes from running any of this software
    (aside from the application itself, of course). Mac OS X won't let applications crash other applications. I'd be more worried about a
    virus or some kind of password theft.

    Yeah, I wondered about that. But all I have to do is run a sniffer
    like tcpdump ..... Or even let ipfw log everything, and run the same
    session with and without.

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  • From Frederick Cheung@fglc2@srcf.DUH.ucam.org to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, July 07, 2003 15:38:32
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    On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Wesley Groleau wrote:

    back to 8.6, but this is the developer's claim. The "ghost-color

    Although it's suspicious, it's certainly possible for a
    Carbon app to detect which OS is running and do different
    things. I took a chance and ran it a while. It does detect
    Yes this is possible to do either of the 2 tasks it claims to do it would
    need super user privileges. Unless you got a authorization dialog, or if
    it installed itself setuid (in which case you would have had an
    authorization dialog when you installed it.

    Fred

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  • From Wesley Groleau@wesgroleau@despammed.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, July 07, 2003 15:47:56
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    Frederick Cheung wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Wesley Groleau wrote:


    back to 8.6, but this is the developer's claim. The "ghost-color

    Although it's suspicious, it's certainly possible for a
    Carbon app to detect which OS is running and do different
    things. I took a chance and ran it a while. It does detect

    Yes this is possible to do either of the 2 tasks it claims to do it would need super user privileges. Unless you got a authorization dialog, or if
    it installed itself setuid (in which case you would have had an
    authorization dialog when you installed it.

    Fred


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