• Migrating from 2010 MacBook Pro (Intel, High Sierra) to 2020 MacBook Air (M1, Big Sur)

    From TDH1978@thedeerhunter1978@movie.uni to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, November 12, 2020 18:44:29
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    I have a 2010 17" MacBook Pro running macOS High Sierra. I use Apple
    Mail (pointing to a Gmail IMAP server) for all my emails, Apple Photos
    for all my pictures and videos, and iTunes for all my music. Attached
    to the 2010 MacBook Pro is a 1TB LaCie Porsche Design USB drive which
    holds all my TimeMachine backups (done incrementally every hour).

    I will soon upgrade to the new 2020 13" MacBook Air with the M1
    processor and running Big Sur, and I would like to transfer all my
    software and data to the new MacBook Air. I understand that I will not
    be able to migrate all the third-party software applications (such as LibreOffice) for now, but my priorities are emails, pictures/videos,
    music, and documents.

    * Can I transfer everything via Wi-Fi from the 2010 MacBook Pro to
    the 2020 MacBook Air using the Migration Assistant, without involving
    the USB drive?
    * Or do I need to connect the two machines via a cable, like an
    Ethernet cable?
    * Or do I need to attach the USB drive to the new 2020 MacBook Air
    and use TimeMachine Restore?
    * Is there any chance of data loss/corruption during the migration process?
    * After the migration, will the iTunes library on the new 2020
    MacBook Air become the "primary" library? The old 2010 MacBook Pro
    will be decommissioned after the migration.

    In all my years of using a Mac, I have never used the Migration
    Assistant, so any help would be appreciated.

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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, November 12, 2020 18:53:00
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    In article <rokhct$rjv$1@dont-email.me>, TDH1978
    <thedeerhunter1978@movie.uni> wrote:

    I have a 2010 17" MacBook Pro running macOS High Sierra. I use Apple
    Mail (pointing to a Gmail IMAP server) for all my emails, Apple Photos
    for all my pictures and videos, and iTunes for all my music. Attached
    to the 2010 MacBook Pro is a 1TB LaCie Porsche Design USB drive which
    holds all my TimeMachine backups (done incrementally every hour).

    I will soon upgrade to the new 2020 13" MacBook Air with the M1
    processor and running Big Sur, and I would like to transfer all my
    software and data to the new MacBook Air. I understand that I will not
    be able to migrate all the third-party software applications (such as LibreOffice) for now, but my priorities are emails, pictures/videos,
    music, and documents.

    just about everything should work, other than 32 bit apps.

    * Can I transfer everything via Wi-Fi from the 2010 MacBook Pro to
    the 2020 MacBook Air using the Migration Assistant, without involving
    the USB drive?

    migrating over wifi is extremely slow. don't even consider trying.

    * Or do I need to connect the two machines via a cable, like an
    Ethernet cable?

    that would be better than wifi, but still slow.

    * Or do I need to attach the USB drive to the new 2020 MacBook Air
    and use TimeMachine Restore?

    that would be the fastest method, especially if it's a usb 3 drive.

    another option is put the old macbook into target disk mode, however,
    you would need a thunderbolt-firewire adapter.

    * Is there any chance of data loss/corruption during the migration process?

    of course. nothing is perfect. however, that's highly unlikely.

    if something does go wrong, start over. there's nothing on the new mac
    so nothing will be lost.

    * After the migration, will the iTunes library on the new 2020
    MacBook Air become the "primary" library? The old 2010 MacBook Pro
    will be decommissioned after the migration.

    yes.

    In all my years of using a Mac, I have never used the Migration
    Assistant, so any help would be appreciated.

    it works exceptionally well.
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  • From Alan Baker@notonyourlife@no.no.no.no to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, November 12, 2020 15:56:14
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    On 2020-11-12 3:44 p.m., TDH1978 wrote:
    I have a 2010 17" MacBook Pro running macOS High Sierra.  I use Apple
    Mail (pointing to a Gmail IMAP server) for all my emails, Apple Photos
    for all my pictures and videos, and iTunes for all my music.  Attached
    to the 2010 MacBook Pro is a 1TB LaCie Porsche Design USB drive which
    holds all my TimeMachine backups (done incrementally every hour).

    I will soon upgrade to the new 2020 13" MacBook Air with the M1
    processor and running Big Sur, and I would like to transfer all my
    software and data to the new MacBook Air.  I understand that I will not
    be able to migrate all the third-party software applications (such as LibreOffice) for now, but my priorities are emails, pictures/videos,
    music, and documents.

     * Can I transfer everything via Wi-Fi from the 2010 MacBook Pro to the 2020 MacBook Air using the Migration Assistant, without involving the
    USB drive?

    Yes.

     * Or do I need to connect the two machines via a cable, like an
    Ethernet cable?

    An Ethernet cable would be faster than WiFi, but you don't need to do it.

     * Or do I need to attach the USB drive to the new 2020 MacBook Air and use TimeMachine Restore?

    Using a Time Machine backup is also one of the choices that Migration Assistant gives you.

     * Is there any chance of data loss/corruption during the migration process?

    There's always a possibility, but in my experience (which is fairly
    large), it's never happened.

     * After the migration, will the iTunes library on the new 2020 MacBook Air become the "primary" library?  The old 2010 MacBook Pro will be decommissioned after the migration.

    Yes.


    In all my years of using a Mac, I have never used the Migration
    Assistant, so any help would be appreciated.


    Start here:

    'Move your content to a new Mac

    Use Migration Assistant to copy all of your documents, apps, user
    accounts, and settings to a new Mac from another computer.'

    <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204350>

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, November 13, 2020 14:17:56
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2020-11-12 23:44:29 +0000, TDH1978 said:

    I have a 2010 17" MacBook Pro running macOS High Sierra. I use Apple
    Mail (pointing to a Gmail IMAP server) for all my emails, Apple Photos
    for all my pictures and videos, and iTunes for all my music. Attached
    to the 2010 MacBook Pro is a 1TB LaCie Porsche Design USB drive which
    holds all my TimeMachine backups (done incrementally every hour).

    I will soon upgrade to the new 2020 13" MacBook Air with the M1
    processor and running Big Sur, and I would like to transfer all my
    software and data to the new MacBook Air. I understand that I will not
    be able to migrate all the third-party software applications (such as LibreOffice) for now, but my priorities are emails, pictures/videos,
    music, and documents.

    * Can I transfer everything via Wi-Fi from the 2010 MacBook Pro to
    the 2020 MacBook Air using the Migration Assistant, without involving
    the USB drive?
    * Or do I need to connect the two machines via a cable, like an
    Ethernet cable?
    * Or do I need to attach the USB drive to the new 2020 MacBook Air
    and use TimeMachine Restore?
    * Is there any chance of data loss/corruption during the migration process?
    * After the migration, will the iTunes library on the new 2020
    MacBook Air become the "primary" library? The old 2010 MacBook Pro
    will be decommissioned after the migration.

    In all my years of using a Mac, I have never used the Migration
    Assistant, so any help would be appreciated.

    Alan Baker has already replied, but here's a few more notes.

    1. If you are going to use Migration Assistant, do so during the
    initial set-up when you first turn on the new Mac. Don't do
    it aftwards with separate Migration Assistant app because
    that way can cause some extra issues with things like
    User ID clashes.

    2. Old 32-bit apps will no longer work at all. You will need to
    use some form of virtualisation / emulation to run those if
    needed ... BUT neither Parallels Desktop nor WMWare Fusion
    work on the M1 Macs yet (not sure about other the other
    freeware options).

    3. Some Intel Mac 64-bit apps will also not work - one of which
    being Parallels Desktop. Many apps are still in the process
    of being re-done for M1 Macs (Microsoft has launched an M1
    version of Office, but not yet a universal binary version for
    running on both Intel and M1).

    4. Old Intel Mac apps will take a bit longer to open the first
    time on the M1 Mac as Rosetta translates them (can be 20 secs
    or more for big apps). After that they should open up the
    same or slightly quicker than before. The translation process
    also means the apps wil take up more space on the drive - so
    steer well clear of the 128GB Macs if you use a lot of apps.


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  • From Leo@leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, November 12, 2020 17:50:19
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    On 2020 Nov 12, , Alan Baker wrote
    (in article <roki30$vu1$1@dont-email.me>):

    Start here:

    'Move your content to a new Mac

    Use Migration Assistant to copy all of your documents, apps, user
    accounts, and settings to a new Mac from another computer.'

    <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204350>

    Although my thought may be obsolete, does one not use Setup Assistant during initial boot up that invokes Migration Assistant among all the other things that should be done during set-up? I haven’t set up a new Mac since my 2014 Mini, and I used Setup Assistant. It was dirt easy. Is it gone?

    leo


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  • From TDH1978@thedeerhunter1978@movie.uni to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, November 12, 2020 20:50:33
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    On 2020-11-13 01:17:56 +0000, Your Name said:

    1. If you are going to use Migration Assistant, do so during the
    initial set-up when you first turn on the new Mac. Don't do
    it aftwards with separate Migration Assistant app because
    that way can cause some extra issues with things like
    User ID clashes.

    Does that mean I should attach the USB drive to the new MacBook Air
    BEFORE powering it on the first time? Or will the Migration Assistant
    ask me to attach the USB drive DURING the initial set-up?

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, November 13, 2020 14:54:20
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    On 2020-11-13 01:50:33 +0000, TDH1978 said:
    On 2020-11-13 01:17:56 +0000, Your Name said:

    1. If you are going to use Migration Assistant, do so during the
    initial set-up when you first turn on the new Mac. Don't do
    it aftwards with separate Migration Assistant app because
    that way can cause some extra issues with things like
    User ID clashes.

    Does that mean I should attach the USB drive to the new MacBook Air
    BEFORE powering it on the first time? Or will the Migration Assistant
    ask me to attach the USB drive DURING the initial set-up?

    You can turn on the new Mac. At some point during the initial set-up it
    will a screen asking if you want to migrate data from an old Mac or
    Time Machine backup - you can plug in whichever you want then. (There's
    also an option to not migrate data and start with a fresh, clean slate.)


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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, November 13, 2020 14:56:09
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    On 2020-11-13 01:50:19 +0000, Leo said:
    On 2020 Nov 12, , Alan Baker wrote
    (in article <roki30$vu1$1@dont-email.me>):

    Start here:

    'Move your content to a new Mac

    Use Migration Assistant to copy all of your documents, apps, user
    accounts, and settings to a new Mac from another computer.'

    <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204350>

    Although my thought may be obsolete, does one not use Setup Assistant during initial boot up that invokes Migration Assistant among all the other things that should be done during set-up? I haven't set up a new Mac since my 2014 Mini, and I used Setup Assistant. It was dirt easy. Is it gone?

    leo

    It's the same as it has always been ... it's always best to use the
    option in the initial set-up process. Using the separate Migration
    Assistant app later, after setting up the new Mac, can cause issues
    with things like User ID clashes.


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  • From nospam@nospam@nospam.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, November 12, 2020 21:41:35
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    In article <rokop9$5ll$1@dont-email.me>, TDH1978
    <thedeerhunter1978@movie.uni> wrote:

    Does that mean I should attach the USB drive to the new MacBook Air
    BEFORE powering it on the first time? Or will the Migration Assistant
    ask me to attach the USB drive DURING the initial set-up?

    it will ask. you can connect it earlier if you prefer.
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  • From TDH1978@thedeerhunter1978@movie.uni to comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, November 14, 2020 11:20:02
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2020-11-12 23:44:29 +0000, TDH1978 said:

    I have a 2010 17" MacBook Pro running macOS High Sierra. I use Apple
    Mail (pointing to a Gmail IMAP server) for all my emails, Apple Photos
    for all my pictures and videos, and iTunes for all my music. Attached
    to the 2010 MacBook Pro is a 1TB LaCie Porsche Design USB drive which
    holds all my TimeMachine backups (done incrementally every hour).

    I will soon upgrade to the new 2020 13" MacBook Air with the M1
    processor and running Big Sur, and I would like to transfer all my
    software and data to the new MacBook Air. I understand that I will not
    be able to migrate all the third-party software applications (such as LibreOffice) for now, but my priorities are emails, pictures/videos,
    music, and documents.

    * Can I transfer everything via Wi-Fi from the 2010 MacBook Pro to
    the 2020 MacBook Air using the Migration Assistant, without involving
    the USB drive?
    * Or do I need to connect the two machines via a cable, like an
    Ethernet cable?
    * Or do I need to attach the USB drive to the new 2020 MacBook Air
    and use TimeMachine Restore?
    * Is there any chance of data loss/corruption during the migration process?
    * After the migration, will the iTunes library on the new 2020
    MacBook Air become the "primary" library? The old 2010 MacBook Pro
    will be decommissioned after the migration.

    In all my years of using a Mac, I have never used the Migration
    Assistant, so any help would be appreciated.

    Thank you all for your helpful replies.


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