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Has anyone heard if 10.5 Leopard will work with PowerPC Macs? If so, has
Apple said when they will stop supporting PPCs?

tia,

--Fred
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Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

Has anyone heard if 10.5 Leopard will work with PowerPC Macs? If so, has Apple said when they will stop supporting PPCs?

I have no inside information ... but ... I will happily eat my hat (and
yours) if 10.5 doesn't support PPC. There are clearly millions more PPC
Macs than Intel Macs presently and they will be in the majority for at
least the the next 5 years or so. Apple needs to sell as many copies of
10.5 as it can. The Intel Mac market is a very small one. The PPC market
is a very big one.


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Adrian wrote:

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

Has anyone heard if 10.5 Leopard will work with PowerPC Macs? If so, has Apple said when they will stop supporting PPCs?

I have no inside information ... but ... I will happily eat my hat (and yours) if 10.5 doesn't support PPC. There are clearly millions more PPC
Macs than Intel Macs presently and they will be in the majority for at
least the the next 5 years or so. Apple needs to sell as many copies of
10.5 as it can. The Intel Mac market is a very small one. The PPC market
is a very big one.

--
Adrian

I'm rather too lazy to look it up right now, but I believe that when
Jobs announced the Intel transition, he said the next version of OSX
would support both processors.

HTH
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Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI

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In article <fmoore-165A46.13184520042006@network-065-024-007-028.columbus.rr.com>,
Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

Has anyone heard if 10.5 Leopard will work with PowerPC Macs? If so, has Apple said when they will stop supporting PPCs?

Noone has heard, but unless the user base does something almost beyond
reason, dropping support for the PPC in 10.5 would be probably one of
the stupidest things in the history of the computer industry. I wouldn't
be entirely surprised if 10.5 isn't supported on G3s, though.

Apple has not said when they will stop supporting PPCs. They almost
certainly will not say so until the release of the first version that
doesn't.

It took 4.5 years from the release of the first PowerPC Mac for Apple to
ship an OS that wouldn't install on a 68k.

The first release of the Mac OS that would run on a 68000 was in 1997.
That was about 6 years after the last 68000 was released and about 5
years after the last 68000 machine was sold.

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Thanks, Adrian, Dave and Greg. Your comments make complete sense.

--Fred
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On 2006-04-20, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

Has anyone heard if 10.5 Leopard will work with PowerPC Macs? If so, has Apple said when they will stop supporting PPCs?

tia,

They will never drop PPC support before they have an Intel version of
each Mac Category.. Now.. they don't have a Professionnal and server
version Intel Mac yet.. (PowerMac and Xserve). They will probably
continue to support PPC for a couple of years.. But it's only
speculations.. we will see ..

--
Martin
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In article <uce-32A5A9.09033721042006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Gregory Weston <uce@splook.com> wrote:

The first release of the Mac OS that would run on a 68000 was in

Would not. Right?

1997. That was about 6 years after the last 68000 was released and
about 5 years after the last 68000 machine was sold.

But OS X 10.0 would not run on anything earlier than G3, right? What
was the time line between the time the last pre-G3 PPC Mac was sold and
the introduction of OS X?

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In article <michelle-1170BA.11202621042006@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

But OS X 10.0 would not run on anything earlier than G3, right? What
was the time line between the time the last pre-G3 PPC Mac was sold and
the introduction of OS X?

OS X came out in March 2001. Digging through Low End Mac, it looks
like the first G3 came out in late 1997, while the last pre-G3 (I'm
fairly sure it was the 9600/350) was discontinued in March 1998. So
that's about three years.

I'm confident 10.5 will run on PowerPC. 10.6? Not so sure.

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On 2006-04-21, Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

In article <michelle-1170BA.11202621042006@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

But OS X 10.0 would not run on anything earlier than G3, right? What
was the time line between the time the last pre-G3 PPC Mac was sold
and the introduction of OS X?

OS X came out in March 2001. Digging through Low End Mac, it looks
like the first G3 came out in late 1997, while the last pre-G3 (I'm
fairly sure it was the 9600/350) was discontinued in March 1998. So
that's about three years.

I'm confident 10.5 will run on PowerPC. 10.6? Not so sure.

And it will depend if Apple want to produce new computers with a PPC
inside.. I've heard that the new IBM PPC is not to bad for power
consumptions.. may be it can have it place on a futur mac and possibly
we can see futur Mac with PPC *and* others with Intel CPU.. I'm not sure
if Apple really want to completely stop using PPC's.

It's not like when they switch from 68K to PPC.. The 68K line evolution
was stopped at that time.

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Martin
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In article <210420061449142562%garner@netstreet.net>,
Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

But OS X 10.0 would not run on anything earlier than G3, right? What
was the time line between the time the last pre-G3 PPC Mac was sold and the introduction of OS X?

OS X came out in March 2001. Digging through Low End Mac, it looks
like the first G3 came out in late 1997, while the last pre-G3 (I'm
fairly sure it was the 9600/350) was discontinued in March 1998. So
that's about three years.

I'm confident 10.5 will run on PowerPC.

So am I. There are still too many G4s and G5s out there for Apple to
abandon so soon--and a lot of money to make from selling it to them.
Not enough Intel Macs sold yet to pay for the upgrade by themselves.

10.6? Not so sure.

I think it will, but I'm not confident of that.

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In article <slrne4iclu.857.martin@parrot.island.com>, Martin Gagnon <martin@yanos.No.SpAm.org> wrote:

And it will depend if Apple want to produce new computers with a PPC
inside..

They won't.

Once the transition to Intel processors is complete (which it isn't yet
- they have yet to make Intel versions of the iBook or 'pro Mac'), no
more PPC Macs will be made. All Macs will be Intel.

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In article <210420061654481235%no@spam.invalid>,
Babaganoosh <no@spam.invalid> wrote:

In article <slrne4iclu.857.martin@parrot.island.com>, Martin Gagnon <martin@yanos.No.SpAm.org> wrote:

And it will depend if Apple want to produce new computers with a PPC inside..

They won't.

Once the transition to Intel processors is complete (which it isn't yet
- they have yet to make Intel versions of the iBook or 'pro Mac'), no
more PPC Macs will be made. All Macs will be Intel.

Then again, there's no guarantee that some Macs will continue to use
PPC, most likely from IBM through 2008.
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