• Mac OS X Available/Recommended Anti-Virus Apps

    From Derek Currie@derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 17:57:52
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    In article <1145529718.792721.119350@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
    "Deirdre" <dhonner@gmail.com> wrote:

    Derek -

    What do you use for your anti-virus, etc if you don't use Symantec? I
    am new to the Mac and am looking for comprehensive protection.

    Thanks -

    Deirdre

    I am glad to help.

    This thread is a spinoff from the previous thread 'Yet Another Symantec Problem' where I reported yet-another Symantec Norton Anti-Virus
    security hole. I NEVER recommend folks use NAV for many reasons. Here
    are the alternatives for MOSX currently available that I am aware of:

    1) Virex: $40.21 per license (but note that you have to buy 5 licenses
    at a time). I have been using Virex for many years. In the days of Mac
    OS 7, 8 an 9 it was easily the best due to a nice feature where it
    checked if files had been modified since the last time it had run. Its
    speed was remarkably fast because it knew when it could skip over files
    it had previously checked.

    Then McAfee bought it, tossed out the old programming and made it just
    another anti-virus program without any speed advantage. But I have stuck
    with it. The fact that it was free at .Mac until 2006 has helped.

    Great things that remains about Virex are that its virus definitions are updated for FREE very regularly, McAfee have a top notch virus
    information center, and I have never heard of it messing with anyone's
    system. It simply works.

    Well, actually I have read about the virex background engine, called
    VShield, hogging the CPU. In reality it only does this if you have its services activated in the Virex preferences, and only when your CPU is otherwise at rest. VShield is set with a low CPU priority. If it bothers
    you it is very easy to remove it from your startup items. It really
    serves no purpose, so far, since there are still no Mac viruses 'in the
    wild' to worry about. Instead you should regularly start up the Virex application alone and have it check your entire computer on a regular
    basis. I do this at very least every time there is a new virus
    definitions update, which is about every 2 weeks. Occasionally it
    discovers some Windows virus sent to me in email. I have never had it
    report a false-positive virus discovery (unlike Norton Anti-Virus!).

    Sadly, McAfee now only sell Virex 7.7, the latest MOSX 10.4 compatible version, in lots of 5. You can't buy individual copies. I've talked to
    them about this, but they refuse to provide alternatives. They only want
    to sell Virex to enterprise computing environments. You can download a
    demo version.

    <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10355> <http://www.mcafee.com/us/enterprise/products/anti_virus/file_servers_des ktops/virex.html>


    2) ClamXav: FREE, Open Source and cross platform. It's virus definitions
    are regularly updated. But it is very primitive and clunky. With time it
    is getting better. Sadly, a few weeks ago a number of security
    vulnerabilities were been found in the current version. (Echoes of
    Symantec!). But it much better than not using an anti-virus at all. I
    expect it's holes will be patched in the coming month. The patches have already begun on Linux and will soon filter over to Mac.

    Other points: If you dig around you can find a beta version that worked
    on MOSX 10.2.x. Don't bother, it is total garbage. Also, ClamXav is incompatible with MOSX Server 10.4.x. It has been reported to conflict
    with some other applications like TigerCacheCleaner. Its scheduling
    system has problems.

    <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24449> <http://www.markallan.co.uk/clamXav/>


    3) Intego VirusBarrier: $70 + $30 per year for virus definition updates
    (after the first year). This is the newcomer to the anti-virus business.
    But it already has a better reputation than Virex, going by ratings over
    at Version Tracker. It is a Universal Binary that runs natively on
    Macintels. It has a niffy kewl GUI, and has built-in automated virus definition updates. Its best feature is the one that Virex used to have: Speed. It indexes as it scans, allowing it to skip files that have not
    been modified. Instabilities have been reported, as well as a propensity
    to toss up annoying modal message boxes. Thankfully Intego keep
    improving it with regular updates.

    My reservation here is the money sucking. No way do I want buy into a
    virus application so I can pay $30 per year for new virus definitions. I
    could justify paying if I ran a facility of Macs, but not for just me
    and my PowerBook. There is no demo available.

    <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16289> <http://www.intego.com/virusbarrier/>


    4) Sophos Anti-Virus: $?? (The price is not available on their website.
    You know what that means). This is a professional grade virus program, designed for businesses with a network of computers. The Sophos virus information center is excellent. It is a great place to visit regularly
    even if you never use their software. As for the program itself, the
    debate about it is quite contentious. Some people have found it buggy
    and unstable. Some consider the GUI out of date. It has been known to
    make false-positive virus discoveries. And then there are some people
    who like it just fine. They have a 30 day demo. You want the standalone
    Mac OS X version.

    <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/9815> <http://www.sophos.com/products/es/endpoint-server/sav-mac.html>


    5) TigerCacheCleaner: $9 shareware. It had to happen, and I am glad TigerCacheCleaner did it first. This inexpensive shareware program
    integrates ClamXav virus scanning, including scheduling! It is a
    Universal Binary that runs natively on Macintels. The only problems I
    have read about are instability and occasionally flaky behavior.
    Thankfully it is regularly updated. Beside virus checking this utility
    does nearly 40 other things related to Mac OS X. Essentially it
    integrates the abilities of scores of other utilities at a decent price.

    NOTE: TCC is supposed to work on MOSX 10.1 - 10.4.x. I have not verified
    this. It is typical for Universal Binaries to only work on MOSX 10.3.9
    and above, despite claims to the contrary.

    Also Note: The developer is offering a bundle of TCC with their Lights
    Out program for $1 more. "Lights Out is an application designed to give
    users more control over Apple's Energy Saver." Check their website.

    <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16494> <http://www.northernsoftworks.com/tigercachecleaner.html>


    CONCLUSIONS:
    - Intego VirusBarrier gets the bells and whistles award. But you pay
    for it, every year.
    - Virex works fine, but you basically have to already have it, or
    obtain it by some circuitous route, to use it. Virex 7.2.1 and 7.6/7.7
    work fine with MOSX 10.4.x. Virex 7.5.1 does not, only with 10.2.x and
    10.3.x.
    - ClamXav is a good idea and very decent for free, but it is not
    exactly ready for prime time.
    - TigerCacheCleaner looks like a better alternative to the ClamXav application, providing all its capabilities along with a zillion other features for cheap.
    - Forget about Sophos software unless you are an enterprise. But most definitely visit their website to learn about viruses! It is a great
    place.

    Further EXCELLENT information about Mac OS X malware and vulnerabilities
    is available from Secunia. You can sign up for their weekly summary
    email list. You can visit them at:
    <http://secunia.com/>

    Every week (or so) I post a 'Mac Security' thread here at CSMA and CSMS
    where you can find out the latest news being reported regarding MOSX vulnerabilites and patches.

    :-Derek

    --
    Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
    Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge. <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/> [Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]
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  • From Derek Currie@derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 21:52:05
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article
    <derekcurrie-5379EB.13575120042006@syrcnyrdrs-02-ge0.nyroc.rr.com>,
    Derek Currie <derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid> wrote:

    5) TigerCacheCleaner: $9 shareware. It had to happen, and I am glad TigerCacheCleaner did it first. This inexpensive shareware program integrates ClamXav virus scanning, including scheduling! It is a
    Universal Binary that runs natively on Macintels. The only problems I
    have read about are instability and occasionally flaky behavior.
    Thankfully it is regularly updated. Beside virus checking this utility
    does nearly 40 other things related to Mac OS X. Essentially it
    integrates the abilities of scores of other utilities at a decent price.

    NOTE: TCC is supposed to work on MOSX 10.1 - 10.4.x. I have not verified this. It is typical for Universal Binaries to only work on MOSX 10.3.9
    and above, despite claims to the contrary.

    UPDATE!

    Tiger Cache Cleaner v3.1.3 runs like a charm on Mac OS X 10.2.8.

    Let me save you some time if you want to use TCC as a virus checker.
    Open the manual PDF file and read the section about Clam. (Do a find on
    the word 'clam'). It will tell you how to install ClamXav, which is
    included in the TCC's resources, and how to update the virus
    definitions. It takes a few minutes. Then when you want to schedule a
    regular scan of your machine, go to the app's 'Special' menu and select
    the last choice, 'Automate Operation...'. Everything you need is there including a pop-up menu with various time intervals. Radi-kewlness.

    This is hella-better than the ClamXav GUI app if you ask me. My eyes are
    still oggling at all the other stuff this thing will do.... Create a RAM Disk?! Interesting...

    Coming up, my test of TCC on Mac OS X 10.1.5, installed and run over VNC.

    :-D

    --
    Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
    Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge. <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/> [Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]
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  • From Randall Ainsworth@rag@nospam.techline.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 18:27:45
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    Considering there are no viruses or spyware for OS X, why do you need
    this crap mucking up your system?
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  • From Randy Howard@randyhoward@FOOverizonBAR.net to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 10:48:12
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    Derek Currie wrote
    (in article
    <derekcurrie-5379EB.13575120042006@syrcnyrdrs-02-
    ge0.nyroc.rr.com>):

    1) Virex: $40.21 per license (but note that you have to buy 5 licenses
    at a time). I have been using Virex for many years. In the days of Mac
    OS 7, 8 an 9 it was easily the best due to a nice feature where it
    checked if files had been modified since the last time it had run. Its
    speed was remarkably fast because it knew when it could skip over files
    it had previously checked.

    Which is (was) a potential security hole, as a virus could reset
    the time stamps on the file(s).



    --
    Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
    "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those
    who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw





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  • From Deirdre@dhonner@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system on Saturday, April 22, 2006 06:55:56
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Derek-

    Thank you for such a terrific response. I appreciate your time in
    educating a new Mac user. :-)

    --Deirdre

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