• change film roll name in iPhoto

    From VAXman-@VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:15:43
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    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click
    on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

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  • From Garner Miller@garner@netstreet.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:31:44
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    In article <00A5481E.2306D013@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Yep: You need to change the name in the "Information" area, in the
    lower-left corner of the iPhoto window. (If you can't see it, click
    the "(i)" at the bottom of the window.) With the roll name
    highlighted, you can then change its title in that information window.

    Annoying, I know.

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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 14:31:58
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    In article <00A5481E.2306D013@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Yes. Go back and read the help entry again. The info you want is there.

    You paraphprased items 1, 2, and 3. Why did you leave off item 4 (which
    is the actual answer you claim to be looking for)?

    There's even a picture!
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  • From hairy.biker@hairy.biker@gmail.com (Andy Hewitt) to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 21:46:02
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    <VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Yes, you need to first open the Info box (in the bottom left corner) by clicking on the little 'I' icon. Then you select the Roll, and then edit
    the title in the Info box.

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  • From VAXman-@VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:47:29
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    In article <200420061631445459%garner@netstreet.net>, Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> writes:


    In article <00A5481E.2306D013@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click >> on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Yep: You need to change the name in the "Information" area, in the
    lower-left corner of the iPhoto window. (If you can't see it, click
    the "(i)" at the bottom of the window.) With the roll name
    highlighted, you can then change its title in that information window.

    Annoying, I know.

    Thanks... OK. Makes more sense now.

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  • From VAXman-@VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:50:56
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    In article <200420061431589874%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> writes:


    In article <00A5481E.2306D013@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click >> on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Yes. Go back and read the help entry again. The info you want is there.

    You paraphprased items 1, 2, and 3. Why did you leave off item 4 (which
    is the actual answer you claim to be looking for)?

    OK... verbatim:

    1. Select Library in the Source list.
    2. If you dont see file roll icons int he viewing area, choose View>Film rolls. 3. Click the film roll in the viewing area.
    4. Type a new name in the Title Field.

    NOWEHRE does it mention the little (i) to get at this information.


    There's even a picture!

    ... but it doesn't tell you how to get at that "picture".

    Sorry, but the help *IS* misleading.
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  • From Tim Lance@lance_1012@hotmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 17:45:47
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:15:43 -0500, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote
    (in article <00A5481E.2306D013@SendSpamHere.ORG>):

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date of
    a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll and click on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?



    'K. I've read all the posts so far. The OP deserves some slack. This is perhaps the most convoluted thing I've encountered, and I once messed with
    DVD Studio Pro 2 with no video experience, having never seen a DVD.

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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 17:09:00
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    In article <QqCdnVPYr4mBktXZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Tim Lance <lance_1012@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'K. I've read all the posts so far. The OP deserves some slack. This is perhaps the most convoluted thing I've encountered, and I once messed with DVD Studio Pro 2 with no video experience, having never seen a DVD.

    Well, if you look at iPhoto help, it's organized into mini-tutorials.
    The one that's applicaple here is titled "Editing photo and roll
    information". The first entry, "Editing a photo's title" gives explicit instructions, with pictures, on displaying the Information area.

    Now, he's excused somewhat for not reading all the entries in the
    section. We all skip stuff.

    BUT: If he'd included all four of the instructions in the help file "4.
    Type a new name in the Title field." which was *right in front of him*,
    and then asked "Where the heck is the title field, I don't see it"
    someone, possible even me, would have said "Click the "i" in the circle
    at the bottom left."

    Instead, this is just one more case of someone wanting others to do his learning for him.
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  • From VAXman-@VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 14:09:43
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <200420061709006322%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> writes:


    In article <QqCdnVPYr4mBktXZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Tim Lance ><lance_1012@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'K. I've read all the posts so far. The OP deserves some slack. This is
    perhaps the most convoluted thing I've encountered, and I once messed with >> DVD Studio Pro 2 with no video experience, having never seen a DVD.

    Well, if you look at iPhoto help, it's organized into mini-tutorials.
    The one that's applicaple here is titled "Editing photo and roll >information". The first entry, "Editing a photo's title" gives explicit >instructions, with pictures, on displaying the Information area.

    Now, he's excused somewhat for not reading all the entries in the
    section. We all skip stuff.

    BUT: If he'd included all four of the instructions in the help file "4.
    Type a new name in the Title field." which was *right in front of him*,
    and then asked "Where the heck is the title field, I don't see it"
    someone, possible even me, would have said "Click the "i" in the circle
    at the bottom left."

    Instead, this is just one more case of someone wanting others to do his >learning for him.

    Fuck off! I've come from the VMS world where there are very explicit help instructions, documentation and *meaningful* and *helpful* error messages.

    I put, verbatim, the four instruction here in this thread. NOWHERE do they state to click on the (i). 3 says: Click the film roll in the viewing area. and 4 says: Type a new name in the Title field.

    It's attitude like yours that keeps people away from newsgroups and affects
    the products discussed in said newsgroups.

    FWIW, editing Film Rolls data is JUST as chock full of disinformation.
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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 08:15:55
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    In article <00A548B4.2C78FE4D@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    I put, verbatim, the four instruction here in this thread.

    No, you put the first three in your post. I added the fourth.
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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 08:18:27
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    In article <00A548B4.2C78FE4D@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    It's attitude like yours that keeps people away from newsgroups

    There are people who *should* be kept away from newsgroups, in my
    opinion. I'm not saying you're one of them.
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  • From VAXman-@VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 14:28:43
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    In article <210420060815559269%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> writes:


    In article <00A548B4.2C78FE4D@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    I put, verbatim, the four instruction here in this thread.

    No, you put the first three in your post. I added the fourth.

    alt.revisionist.history is in the other direction.

    I did post all 4 and your remark to my original question still did
    not answer or help me. Mr. Balderstone provided the salient post.
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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 08:53:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <00A548B6.D40884E7@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    alt.revisionist.history is in the other direction.

    I did post all 4 and your remark to my original question still did
    not answer or help me. Mr. Balderstone provided the salient post.

    I didn't help you, yet I did. Wow. I didn't realize I could do both at
    the same time. Cool.

    Now, in your original post <00A5481E.2306D013@SendSpamHere.ORG> you
    said:

    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date
    of a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll
    and click on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Where, exactly, did you post the fourth item from the help page? I see
    1, 2 and 3, and they're not quoted verbatim, either, as you claimed in <00A548B4.2C78FE4D@SendSpamHere.ORG>

    I put, verbatim, the four instruction here in this thread.

    That statement is simply untrue.

    Have fun in alt.revisionist.history...
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  • From Garner Miller@garner@netstreet.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 15:12:57
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    Of course, we're all missing the most important fact: There's no reason
    on earth that I shouldn't be able to click on the film roll's name in
    the browser window and edit it there, just as I can in the Finder, in
    iTunes, and so on. The name's right there! Why make me go to another
    panel to actually edit the name of the roll? (Or a picture, for that
    matter.)


    Feedback sent to Apple, FWIW.

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  • From VAXman-@VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 16:23:01
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    In article <210420060853415260%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> writes:


    In article <00A548B6.D40884E7@SendSpamHere.ORG>, < @SendSpamHere.ORG>
    wrote:

    alt.revisionist.history is in the other direction.

    I did post all 4 and your remark to my original question still did
    not answer or help me. Mr. Balderstone provided the salient post.

    I didn't help you, yet I did. Wow. I didn't realize I could do both at
    the same time. Cool.

    Mea Culpa... I referenced the wrong poster when I looked up this thread
    in google.


    The latest iPhoto (6.0.2) help says I can change the name and/or date
    of a film roll. It says to select the library then View > Film Roll
    and click on the film icon in the viewing area.

    This doesn't seem to do anything on my system. Any pointers?

    Where, exactly, did you post the fourth item from the help page? I see
    1, 2 and 3, and they're not quoted verbatim, either, as you claimed in ><00A548B4.2C78FE4D@SendSpamHere.ORG>


    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.system/msg/349babd9a9e198e0?hl=en&


    You really are a fucking pain in the ass over a simple question.

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  • From Michelle Steiner@michelle@michelle.org to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 10:58:16
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <210420061112573940%garner@netstreet.net>,
    Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

    Of course, we're all missing the most important fact: There's no
    reason on earth that I shouldn't be able to click on the film roll's
    name in the browser window and edit it there, just as I can in the
    Finder, in iTunes, and so on. The name's right there! Why make me
    go to another panel to actually edit the name of the roll? (Or a
    picture, for that matter.)

    I missed the earlier discussion in this thread, but after reading your
    message I opened iPhoto, double clicked on the name of a film roll and
    was able to edit or change it--just like in the Finder.

    Also, like in the Finder, if you press Return while a roll is selected,
    you enter the edit mode. Unlike the Finder, if you press Enter, you do
    not go to the Edit mode.

    So what is the problem?

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  • From Dave Balderstone@dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 12:16:37
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <michelle-D941F3.10581621042006@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
    Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

    I missed the earlier discussion in this thread, but after reading your message I opened iPhoto, double clicked on the name of a film roll and
    was able to edit or change it--just like in the Finder.

    Also, like in the Finder, if you press Return while a roll is selected,
    you enter the edit mode. Unlike the Finder, if you press Enter, you do
    not go to the Edit mode.

    What version of iPhoto? In 6.0.2, here, double clicking opens & closes
    the roll.
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  • From Garner Miller@garner@netstreet.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 18:52:25
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    In article <michelle-D941F3.10581621042006@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
    Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

    I missed the earlier discussion in this thread, but after reading your message I opened iPhoto, double clicked on the name of a film roll and
    was able to edit or change it--just like in the Finder.

    Huh... when I double-click on the name of a film roll, all it does it
    close up the disclosure triangle. (This is in iPhoto 6.0.2.)

    Or are you talking about the name in the "Information" panel? If so,
    that one I knew about. My complaint is that you can ONLY change it
    there, and not in iPhoto's window itself. (It'd be the Finder
    equivalent of only being able to change a file's name in the Get Info
    window.)

    Also, like in the Finder, if you press Return while a roll is selected,
    you enter the edit mode.

    Ack! I tried that, and it opened up every item in the roll into a
    separate window! (Including a few videos, which opened up in Quicktime Player.)


    Wonder why we're getting such different behavior?

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  • From Michelle Steiner@michelle@michelle.org to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 12:58:49
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <210420061452254006%garner@netstreet.net>,
    Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

    Huh... when I double-click on the name of a film roll, all it does it
    close up the disclosure triangle. (This is in iPhoto 6.0.2.)

    Or are you talking about the name in the "Information" panel? If so,
    that one I knew about. My complaint is that you can ONLY change it
    there, and not in iPhoto's window itself. (It'd be the Finder
    equivalent of only being able to change a file's name in the Get Info window.)

    I'm referring to the panel to the left of the panel with the preview views--the one labeled "source". That is the only place I know of to
    access the name of an album, film roll, or folder. I just realized that
    it's only the names of albums and folders that I'm able to change.

    Seems like I'm missing something here.

    I'm using 6.0.2 also.

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  • From Garner Miller@garner@netstreet.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 20:11:59
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <michelle-F27E6F.12584921042006@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle
    Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

    Huh... when I double-click on the name of a film roll, all it does it
    close up the disclosure triangle. (This is in iPhoto 6.0.2.)

    I'm referring to the panel to the left of the panel with the preview views--the one labeled "source".

    Ahh, OK, then. I was referring to the film rolls themselves in the
    preview panel -- I want to be able to change them there, not over in
    that panel on the side. Since that's where my eyes are when I see that
    it's named "Roll 303," that's where it seems logical to make the
    change. But in this incarnation of iPhoto, I can't.


    Oh, well; I was hoping there was a preference you found that I had
    missed. :D

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  • From Michelle Steiner@michelle@michelle.org to comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, April 21, 2006 13:47:53
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <210420061611590436%garner@netstreet.net>,
    Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

    Huh... when I double-click on the name of a film roll, all it
    does it close up the disclosure triangle. (This is in iPhoto
    6.0.2.)

    I'm referring to the panel to the left of the panel with the
    preview views--the one labeled "source".

    Ahh, OK, then. I was referring to the film rolls themselves in the
    preview panel -- I want to be able to change them there, not over in
    that panel on the side. Since that's where my eyes are when I see
    that it's named "Roll 303," that's where it seems logical to make the change. But in this incarnation of iPhoto, I can't.

    Oh, I see what you mean now; I had the picture title turned off in the
    preview panel, so I never saw the name of the picture or of the roll.

    Weird thing, though; only one of my albums have the roll number in the picture; all the rest have just the picture name.

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