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On 2021-05-02 00:00:27 +0000, Connor Shannon said:

Hi, I made some videos with Screen Recording in Quicktime Player. They
are .mov files (15GB and 21GB) and I can play them in QTP on my iMac,
also I "shared" them with iTunes so I can also play them in iTunes on
my MacBook over Home Sharing. The iTunes files are .m4v files and
they're a lot smaller.

I would kind of like to have them on a DVD or a USB drive so I can use
them on another computer without Home Sharing or even play them right
into a TV. If I just copy them to a blank DVd on the iMac will they
play on any DVD player? Not like autoplay like a store-bought movie
DVD, but will I see them on a list and I can play them from that? Does
it matter if I use the .mov or .m4v files? The .mov is better quality
b'cuz they're bigger files, right? But are they Apple-only for playing?

I have iDVD on my iMac but it talks about creating a project, which
sounds complicated and maybe more than I need.

Or since DVDs are kind of going away should I just put the movies on a
USB drive and use that to play them on a computer or a TV? Which files
would work for that?
Sorry lots of questions, I tried googling but got really confused about
just putting files on a DVD like a hard drive vs. them being playable
on a TV. Also about .mov vs .m4v. Thank you.

Simply burning the Quicktime .mov files onto a DVD creates a data disc,
which means it will not play on most (any?) DVD players, especially if
the disc is in Mac format. Plus Quicktime is an Apple proprietary
format (although can contain a variety of codecs), so isn't very
compatible with other devices.

A proper DVD must be in the correct format and file structure. iDVD
should work and is relatively simple to use all-in-one option. A
"project" is simply the term they're using for your DVD working file
... similar to a Word or Pages "document". You create a DVD project and
add the video files to it, and create a menu screen for the DVD player
so you can pick individual videos to play. It should also be happy with
the Quicktime format videos which it will convert appropriately when
creating the DVD.

There are other options, but may not be as easy to use.

You can use USB. I often plug a USB keyring drive into the side of our non-Smart TV to play vidoes, but it will depend on the TV or set-top
box you're plugging into. The USB drive will need to be in Windows/DOS
format, not Mac formatted.

You will need to convert the videos into another format though.
Handbrake is the best way, but it does have a ton of options, so you
may need to experiement to find which works best for your TV. For the
USB keyring drive, I convert videos into .mkv files since that seems to
work best on our TV.


NOTES:
1. The video conversion and burning can take some time on a slower Mac.
You may need to turn off the Mac's auto-sleep option.

2. Quicktime Player's screen recording option creates huge files. You
might want to use Handbrake to convert them to smaller .mp4 files.
Those 15GB / 21GB files may well come down to a few hundred MB instead.



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On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 6:07:52 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:

On 2021-05-02 00:00:27 +0000, Connor Shannon said:

Hi, I made some videos with Screen Recording in Quicktime Player. They
are .mov files (15GB and 21GB) and I can play them in QTP on my iMac,
also I "shared" them with iTunes so I can also play them in iTunes on
my MacBook over Home Sharing. The iTunes files are .m4v files and
they're a lot smaller.

I would kind of like to have them on a DVD or a USB drive so I can use them on another computer without Home Sharing or even play them right
into a TV. If I just copy them to a blank DVd on the iMac will they
play on any DVD player? Not like autoplay like a store-bought movie
DVD, but will I see them on a list and I can play them from that? Does
it matter if I use the .mov or .m4v files? The .mov is better quality b'cuz they're bigger files, right? But are they Apple-only for playing?

I have iDVD on my iMac but it talks about creating a project, which
sounds complicated and maybe more than I need.

Or since DVDs are kind of going away should I just put the movies on a
USB drive and use that to play them on a computer or a TV? Which files would work for that?
Sorry lots of questions, I tried googling but got really confused about just putting files on a DVD like a hard drive vs. them being playable
on a TV. Also about .mov vs .m4v. Thank you.

Simply burning the Quicktime .mov files onto a DVD creates a data disc, which means it will not play on most (any?) DVD players, especially if
the disc is in Mac format. Plus Quicktime is an Apple proprietary
format (although can contain a variety of codecs), so isn't very
compatible with other devices.

A proper DVD must be in the correct format and file structure. iDVD
should work and is relatively simple to use all-in-one option. A
"project" is simply the term they're using for your DVD working file
... similar to a Word or Pages "document". You create a DVD project and
add the video files to it, and create a menu screen for the DVD player
so you can pick individual videos to play. It should also be happy with
the Quicktime format videos which it will convert appropriately when creating the DVD.

There are other options, but may not be as easy to use.

You can use USB. I often plug a USB keyring drive into the side of our non-Smart TV to play vidoes, but it will depend on the TV or set-top
box you're plugging into. The USB drive will need to be in Windows/DOS format, not Mac formatted.

You will need to convert the videos into another format though.
Handbrake is the best way, but it does have a ton of options, so you
may need to experiement to find which works best for your TV. For the
USB keyring drive, I convert videos into .mkv files since that seems to
work best on our TV.

NOTES:
1. The video conversion and burning can take some time on a slower Mac.
You may need to turn off the Mac's auto-sleep option.

2. Quicktime Player's screen recording option creates huge files. You
might want to use Handbrake to convert them to smaller .mp4 files.
Those 15GB / 21GB files may well come down to a few hundred MB instead.

Thank you YourName that is very helpful information. Maybe I should just try iDVD since I have it.
I have .m4v files in iTunes, could I use those on a USB drive? I will see if I have a big enough USB thumb drive to try it. I don't use them much so their all pretty old and small. :) Nowadays you can get really big thumb drives! Thank you for the reminder about using DOS format I think I'm pretty careful about that when I use a USB drive that I might need to use somewhere besides my Macs but its always good to be sure.
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On 2021-05-02 05:42:09 +0000, Connor Shannon said:

Thank you YourName that is very helpful information. Maybe I should
just try iDVD since I have it.

I have .m4v files in iTunes, could I use those on a USB drive? I will
see if I have a big enough USB thumb drive to try it. I don't use them
much so their all pretty old and small. :) Nowadays you can get really
big thumb drives! Thank you for the reminder about using DOS format I
think I'm pretty careful about that when I use a USB drive that I might
need to use somewhere besides my Macs but its always good to be sure.

For a USB drive, .mp4 would probably be most widely compatible format,
but within that it will need to use codecs your TV can understand. That
will probably mean some trial-and-error conversions in Handbrake to
find what works (use short video clips rather than converting the
entire 15GB every time!).

15GB and 21GB may also be too big as a single file, so conversion in
Handbrake will drop that to a more managable few hundred MB instead.

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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 12:45:47 AM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:

On 2021-05-02 05:42:09 +0000, Connor Shannon said:

Thank you YourName that is very helpful information. Maybe I should
just try iDVD since I have it.

I have .m4v files in iTunes, could I use those on a USB drive? I will
see if I have a big enough USB thumb drive to try it. I don't use them much so their all pretty old and small. :) Nowadays you can get really
big thumb drives! Thank you for the reminder about using DOS format I think I'm pretty careful about that when I use a USB drive that I might need to use somewhere besides my Macs but its always good to be sure.

For a USB drive, .mp4 would probably be most widely compatible format,
but within that it will need to use codecs your TV can understand. That
will probably mean some trial-and-error conversions in Handbrake to
find what works (use short video clips rather than converting the
entire 15GB every time!).

15GB and 21GB may also be too big as a single file, so conversion in Handbrake will drop that to a more managable few hundred MB instead.

I made a DVD with iDVD and it does play on the DVD player hooked to our TV, thank you. I will check out Handbrake for putting the videos on a USB. The .m4v files are a lot smaller than the .mov files so hopefully it will be okay.

Yes, I will use small files first to try it!
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On 02/05/2021 01:00, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi, I made some videos with Screen Recording in Quicktime Player. They are .mov files (15GB and 21GB) and I can play them in QTP on my iMac, also I "shared" them with iTunes so I can also play them in iTunes on my MacBook over Home Sharing. The iTunes files are .m4v files and they're a lot smaller.

I would kind of like to have them on a DVD or a USB drive so I can use them on another computer without Home Sharing or even play them right into a TV. If I just copy them to a blank DVd on the iMac will they play on any DVD player? Not like autoplay like a store-bought movie DVD, but will I see them on a list and I can play them from that? Does it matter if I use the .mov or .m4v files? The .mov is better quality b'cuz they're bigger files, right? But are they Apple-only for playing?

I have iDVD on my iMac but it talks about creating a project, which sounds complicated and maybe more than I need.

Or since DVDs are kind of going away should I just put the movies on a USB drive and use that to play them on a computer or a TV? Which files would work for that?

Sorry lots of questions, I tried googling but got really confused about just putting files on a DVD like a hard drive vs. them being playable on a TV. Also about .mov vs .m4v. Thank you.

Hello Conor

Looking from outside the box, have you considered uploading your videos
to YouTube?

--
David

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On 2021-05-02 21:20:56 +0000, David Brooks said:

On 02/05/2021 01:00, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi, I made some videos with Screen Recording in Quicktime Player. They
are .mov files (15GB and 21GB) and I can play them in QTP on my iMac,
also I "shared" them with iTunes so I can also play them in iTunes on
my MacBook over Home Sharing. The iTunes files are .m4v files and
they're a lot smaller.

I would kind of like to have them on a DVD or a USB drive so I can use
them on another computer without Home Sharing or even play them right
into a TV. If I just copy them to a blank DVd on the iMac will they
play on any DVD player? Not like autoplay like a store-bought movie
DVD, but will I see them on a list and I can play them from that? Does
it matter if I use the .mov or .m4v files? The .mov is better quality
b'cuz they're bigger files, right? But are they Apple-only for playing?

I have iDVD on my iMac but it talks about creating a project, which
sounds complicated and maybe more than I need.

Or since DVDs are kind of going away should I just put the movies on a
USB drive and use that to play them on a computer or a TV? Which files
would work for that?

Sorry lots of questions, I tried googling but got really confused about
just putting files on a DVD like a hard drive vs. them being playable
on a TV. Also about .mov vs .m4v. Thank you.

Hello Conor

Looking from outside the box, have you considered uploading your videos
to YouTube?

Personally I would never put any kind of personal videos on YouTube or similar. Even if you make them private videos, the site is simply too
easily hacked. Plus there can be ownership problems - a lot ofthese
video sharing places have a clause in the legalese small print where
they, not you, own any uploaded videos and they can do whatever they
want with them (including selling to advertising companies as "stock"
videos).

If you really want to upload them, best to use your *own* space at
places like iCloud or DropBox where you have complete control and far
better security.

The only benefit with YouTube is that many Smart TVs have the app built-in.


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On 03/05/2021 01:17, Your Name wrote:

On 2021-05-02 21:20:56 +0000, David Brooks said:

On 02/05/2021 01:00, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi, I made some videos with Screen Recording in Quicktime Player.
They are .mov files (15GB and 21GB) and I can play them in QTP on my
iMac, also I "shared" them with iTunes so I can also play them in
iTunes on my MacBook over Home Sharing. The iTunes files are .m4v
files and they're a lot smaller.

I would kind of like to have them on a DVD or a USB drive so I can
use them on another computer without Home Sharing or even play them
right into a TV. If I just copy them to a blank DVd on the iMac will
they play on any DVD player? Not like autoplay like a store-bought
movie DVD, but will I see them on a list and I can play them from
that? Does it matter if I use the .mov or .m4v files? The .mov is
better quality b'cuz they're bigger files, right? But are they
Apple-only for playing?

I have iDVD on my iMac but it talks about creating a project, which
sounds complicated and maybe more than I need.

Or since DVDs are kind of going away should I just put the movies on
a USB drive and use that to play them on a computer or a TV? Which
files would work for that?

Sorry lots of questions, I tried googling but got really confused
about just putting files on a DVD like a hard drive vs. them being
playable on a TV. Also about .mov vs .m4v. Thank you.

Hello Conor

Looking from outside the box, have you considered uploading your
videos to YouTube?

Personally I would never put any kind of personal videos on YouTube or similar. Even if you make them private videos, the site is simply too
easily hacked. Plus there can be ownership problems - a lot ofthese
video sharing places have a clause in the legalese small print where
they, not you, own any uploaded videos and they can do whatever they
want with them (including selling to advertising companies as "stock" videos).

If you really want to upload them, best to use your *own* space at
places like iCloud or DropBox where you have complete control and far
better security.

The only benefit with YouTube is that many Smart TVs have the app built-in.

I understand what you say, YN - but, like most folk, I'm not too
concerned about security on YouTube.

Here's a short clip of me doing a talk-down of a Phantom in 1973!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkLghHkq3zs

Do you use any anti-malware software on your Apple computer(s)?

--
David

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On 5/3/21 3:02 AM, David Brooks wrote:

On 03/05/2021 01:17, Your Name wrote:

On 2021-05-02 21:20:56 +0000, David Brooks said:

On 02/05/2021 01:00, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi, I made some videos with Screen Recording in Quicktime Player.
They are .mov files (15GB and 21GB) and I can play them in QTP on my
iMac, also I "shared" them with iTunes so I can also play them in
iTunes on my MacBook over Home Sharing. The iTunes files are .m4v
files and they're a lot smaller.

I would kind of like to have them on a DVD or a USB drive so I can
use them on another computer without Home Sharing or even play them
right into a TV. If I just copy them to a blank DVd on the iMac will
they play on any DVD player? Not like autoplay like a store-bought
movie DVD, but will I see them on a list and I can play them from
that? Does it matter if I use the .mov or .m4v files? The .mov is
better quality b'cuz they're bigger files, right? But are they
Apple-only for playing?

I have iDVD on my iMac but it talks about creating a project, which
sounds complicated and maybe more than I need.

Or since DVDs are kind of going away should I just put the movies on
a USB drive and use that to play them on a computer or a TV? Which
files would work for that?

Sorry lots of questions, I tried googling but got really confused
about just putting files on a DVD like a hard drive vs. them being
playable on a TV. Also about .mov vs .m4v. Thank you.

Hello Conor

Looking from outside the box, have you considered uploading your
videos to YouTube?

Personally I would never put any kind of personal videos on YouTube or
similar. Even if you make them private videos, the site is simply too
easily hacked. Plus there can be ownership problems - a lot ofthese
video sharing places have a clause in the legalese small print where
they, not you, own any uploaded videos and they can do whatever they
want with them (including selling to advertising companies as "stock"
videos).

If you really want to upload them, best to use your *own* space at
places like iCloud or DropBox where you have complete control and far
better security.

The only benefit with YouTube is that many Smart TVs have the app
built-in.

I understand what you say, YN - but, like most folk, I'm not too
concerned about security on YouTube.

Here's a short clip of me doing a talk-down of a Phantom in 1973!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkLghHkq3zs

Do you use any anti-malware software on your Apple computer(s)?

Same old David. No, I don't and outside of some nasty browser
extensions, I have not had an issue since 1986 with malware on a Mac.
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On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 1:27:34 PM UTC-7, Connor Shannon wrote:

I made a DVD with iDVD and it does play on the DVD player hooked to our TV, thank you. I will check out Handbrake for putting the videos on a USB. The .m4v files are a lot smaller than the .mov files so hopefully it will be okay.

Yes, I will use small files first to try it!

Okay, it worked! I made little files from QT10 (M4V), QT7 (MP4), and Handbrake (MP4 and MKV) and put them on my new USB flash and plugged it into the TV. The one from the QT10 export to iTunes showed up sideways. The MP4 from QT7 was the wrong shape, kind of squarish. But both files from Handbrake were fine. So I used Handbrake to make MP4s of my big files. They took a few hours but I did them last night and I'm watching one on the TV right now and they're just great! thank you again!
p.s. I don't know why I would want to put them on YouTube like somebody said. I have them right on a USB drive and I put that in the TV and they come right up. Don't need to use the internet. Also I bought a Sandisk that has both kinds of USB plugs so if I get a newer Mac someday I can still use it. (Both of mine have the old-style USB plugs.)
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In article <015ff5e3-b5ef-4e67-a979-6e418340f93dn@googlegroups.com>,
Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@gmail.com> wrote:

p.s. I don't know why I would want to put them on YouTube like somebody said.

it was a dox attempt. ignore it.
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On 03/05/2021 16:34, YK wrote:
[....]

I understand what you say, YN - but, like most folk, I'm not too
concerned about security on YouTube.

Here's a short clip of me doing a talk-down of a Phantom in 1973!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkLghHkq3zs

Do you use any anti-malware software on your Apple computer(s)?

Same old David. No, I don't and outside of some nasty browser
extensions, I have not had an issue since 1986 with malware on a Mac.

Perhaps you'd like to review this thread?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/can-etrecheck-find-a-rootkit-on-an-apple-mac.2238307/?post=28506775#post-28506775

Would YOU have known the answer? *DO* you know the answer?!!

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Regards,
David
Did you recognise which aircraft carrier I was speaking from?
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