• Re: John Galt says ....

    From David Brooks@DavidB@nomail.invalid to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 14, 2021 23:13:26
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of AV software on an Apple computer.
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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac on Wednesday, July 14, 2021 16:22:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
    caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

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  • From YK@youkidding@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 14, 2021 21:06:06
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of AV software on an Apple computer.

    I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
    the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:

    Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
    product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
    Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just prior
    to that statement.

    I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
    computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
    issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.

    YK
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  • From David Brooks@DavidB@nomail.invalid to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:38:19
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
    On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
    the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:

    Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security" product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
    Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just prior
    to that statement.

    I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
    computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
    issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.

    YK

    Thank you for answering my question.

    With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
    this procedure is necessary?

    https://ibb.co/kS168rp

    TIA
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  • From David Brooks@DavidB@nomail.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:46:05
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
    On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
    caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

    That made me smile! :-)

    I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
    and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple computer.

    If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?


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  • From David Brooks@DavidB@nomail.invalid to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:54:24
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 15/07/2021 11:38, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
    On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
    the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:

    Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
    product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
    Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just
    prior to that statement.

    I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
    computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
    compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
    issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.

    YK

    Thank you for answering my question.

    With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
    this procedure is necessary?

    https://ibb.co/kS168rp

    One may find that page of instruction here:-

    https://www.clamxav.com/support/FAQs/

    HTH

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  • From Wolffan@akwolffan@zoho.com to comp.sys.mac.misc, uk.comp.sys.mac, comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, July 15, 2021 08:30:43
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021 Jul 15, David Brooks wrote
    (in article<scp458$mgg$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):

    On 15/07/2021 11:38, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
    On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of AV software on an Apple computer.

    I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
    the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:

    Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security" product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
    Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just
    prior to that statement.

    I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.

    YK

    Thank you for answering my question.

    With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
    this procedure is necessary?

    https://ibb.co/kS168rp

    One may find that page of instruction here:-

    https://www.clamxav.com/support/FAQs/

    HTH

    and here we go again. He never stops.

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  • From briang@briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thursday, July 15, 2021 14:27:01
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
    David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
    On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
    caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

    That made me smile! :-)

    I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
    and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple >computer.

    If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?



    Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.

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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thursday, July 15, 2021 09:11:34
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-07-15 14:27:01 +0000, Brian Gordon said:

    In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
    David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
    On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
    caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

    That made me smile! :-)

    I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
    and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple >> computer.

    If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?



    Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.

    Yes, but it is now a real curse. You install it, run it, and then have
    to peel each finger off your system with de-installation. It's truly a nuisance.

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  • From YK@youkidding@yahoo.com to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, July 15, 2021 12:23:49
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    As I am not the developer and I have never used it, I can't answer that question. I know it was included with some of the early macOSX server versions. But, I never used used it, although some folks in a other
    locations did. You might try contacting the developer with your
    question. Maybe he is willing to provide you with an answer, if he is
    willing and provides support for purchased versions.

    YK

    On 7/15/21 6:38 AM, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
    On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
    AV software on an Apple computer.

    I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
    the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:

    Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
    product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
    Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just
    prior to that statement.

    I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
    computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
    compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
    issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.

    YK

    Thank you for answering my question.

    With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
    this procedure is necessary?

    https://ibb.co/kS168rp

    TIA

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  • From TimS@timstreater@greenbee.net to comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thursday, July 15, 2021 16:33:05
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 15 Jul 2021 at 17:11:34 BST, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

    On 2021-07-15 14:27:01 +0000, Brian Gordon said:

    In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
    David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
    On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of >>>>> AV software on an Apple computer.

    AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
    caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

    That made me smile! :-)

    I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
    and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple >>> computer.

    If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?

    Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.

    Yes, but it is now a real curse. You install it, run it, and then have
    to peel each finger off your system with de-installation. It's truly a nuisance.

    Why are any of you loonies paying any attention to Mr Brooks, a well-known troll?

    --
    Tim
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  • From gtr@xxx@yyy.zzz to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac on Thursday, July 15, 2021 14:30:50
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-07-15 16:33:05 +0000, TimS said:

    On 15 Jul 2021 at 17:11:34 BST, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

    On 2021-07-15 14:27:01 +0000, Brian Gordon said:

    In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
    David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
    On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
    On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

    On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
    I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841

    Do you agree with the message being given?

    Additional Mac newsgroup added.

    Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of >>>>>> AV software on an Apple computer.

    AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
    caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

    That made me smile! :-)

    I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
    and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple >>>> computer.

    If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?

    Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.

    Yes, but it is now a real curse. You install it, run it, and then have
    to peel each finger off your system with de-installation. It's truly a
    nuisance.

    Why are any of you loonies paying any attention to Mr Brooks, a well-known troll?

    How does your critique of our responding any less a waste of time?

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  • From David Brooks@DavidB@nomail.invalid to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Friday, July 16, 2021 08:35:37
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 15/07/2021 17:23, YK wrote:
    As I am not the developer and I have never used it, I can't answer that question. I know it was included with some of the early macOSX server versions. But, I never used used it, although some folks in a other locations did. You might try contacting the developer with your
    question. Maybe he is willing to provide you with an answer, if he is willing and provides support for purchased versions.

    YK

    Thank you for your reply.

    May I ask WHY you haven't used it? It's "the best thing since sliced
    bread" according to the information shown here:- https://www.clamxav.com

    --
    There's no such thing as a free lunch!




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  • From jeremy@jeremy0505@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.misc,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system on Monday, July 19, 2021 13:00:27
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <0001HW.26A061F30FF03A9770000BD3938F@news.supernews.com>, akwolffan@zoho.com says...


    and here we go again. He never stops.




    I was just waiting to see how/when his obsession would be injected into the thread.

    --
    jeremy
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