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    From Nightfox@DIGDIST to All on Thursday, November 15, 2018 12:34:53
    Today I heard Oracle is (or will start) requiring a subscription for Java now: https://bit.ly/2IlYRgp
    Full URL: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3284164/java/oracle-now-requires-a-subscripti on-to-use-java-se.html

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@DIGDIST/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thursday, November 15, 2018 17:59:00
    Today I heard Oracle is (or will start) requiring a subscription for Java now:

    That is not good news. :(

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  • From jagossel@DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Friday, November 16, 2018 13:41:00
    Dumas Walker, to NIGHTFOX...

    Today I heard Oracle is (or will start) requiring a subscription for Java
    ow:

    That is not good news. :(

    Based on what I was reading, so far, I don't think it's going to be all that bad. Oracle already required corporations to pay a fee. Oracle is moving
    from a one-time large fee to an insanely cheap montly/per-user rate.
    Personal use will be free, I believe, though.

    Still, I don't think it's a good idea that Oracle is charging a fee just to run software written in Java; it just comes across, to me, as though they
    want their "royality fees" to run some other 3rd party software.

    -jag
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  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST to jagossel on Friday, November 16, 2018 13:35:10
    Re: Oracle requiring a subscr
    By: jagossel to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 16 2018 01:41 pm

    Still, I don't think it's a good idea that Oracle is charging a fee just to run software written in Java; it just comes across, to me, as though they want their "royality fees" to run some other 3rd party software.

    If Oracle really wants to charge a fee just to run Java software, I think that would be pretty bad for the users. I know some software companies have been going to a subscription model, but I wouldn't want to start having to pay a recurring fee just to keep using my own computer. There are other Java alternatives out there though (OpenJDK at least provides an open-source Java development kit).

    I've heard rumors Microsoft might end up going to a subscription model for Windows, and if they do, I'm really going to consider switching to Linux or something (my current favorite Linux distribution is Linux Mint with
    Cinnamon).

    Imagine paying monthly fees to both Microsoft and Oracle to continue using Windows & Java software.. And then also fees to Adobe if you use their products, and so on if other companies start doing that also. Suddenly, computer software fees may become another monthly bill people will have to pay, like a utility bill.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST/BATTLEST/FREEWAY to All on Thursday, November 15, 2018 12:34:00
    Today I heard Oracle is (or will start) requiring a subscription for Java now: https://bit.ly/2IlYRgp
    Full URL: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3284164/java/oracle-now-requires-a-subscripti on-to-use-java-se.html

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@DIGDIST/BATTLEST/FREEWAY to NIGHTFOX on Thursday, November 15, 2018 17:59:00
    Today I heard Oracle is (or will start) requiring a subscription for Java now:

    That is not good news. :(

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  • From jagossel@DIGDIST/BATTLEST/FREEWAY to Dumas Walker on Friday, November 16, 2018 13:41:00
    Dumas Walker, to NIGHTFOX...

    Today I heard Oracle is (or will start) requiring a subscription for Java
    ow:

    That is not good news. :(

    Based on what I was reading, so far, I don't think it's going to be all that bad. Oracle already required corporations to pay a fee. Oracle is moving
    from a one-time large fee to an insanely cheap montly/per-user rate.
    Personal use will be free, I believe, though.

    Still, I don't think it's a good idea that Oracle is charging a fee just to run software written in Java; it just comes across, to me, as though they
    want their "royality fees" to run some other 3rd party software.

    -jag
    Code it, Script it, Automate it!

    ... Fear not! I know how to write a "Hello, World!" program!
    --- MultiMail/DOS v0.51
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  • From Nightfox@DIGDIST/BATTLEST/FREEWAY to jagossel on Friday, November 16, 2018 13:35:00
    Re: Oracle requiring a subscr
    By: jagossel to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 16 2018 01:41 pm

    Still, I don't think it's a good idea that Oracle is charging a fee just to run software written in Java; it just comes across, to me, as though they want their "royality fees" to run some other 3rd party software.

    If Oracle really wants to charge a fee just to run Java software, I think that would be pretty bad for the users. I know some software companies have been going to a subscription model, but I wouldn't want to start having to pay a recurring fee just to keep using my own computer. There are other Java alternatives out there though (OpenJDK at least provides an open-source Java development kit).

    I've heard rumors Microsoft might end up going to a subscription model for Windows, and if they do, I'm really going to consider switching to Linux or something (my current favorite Linux distribution is Linux Mint with
    Cinnamon).

    Imagine paying monthly fees to both Microsoft and Oracle to continue using Windows & Java software.. And then also fees to Adobe if you use their products, and so on if other companies start doing that also. Suddenly, computer software fees may become another monthly bill people will have to pay, like a utility bill.

    Nightfox

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