I think I tuned into it a couple times. I'm honestly surprised Leo Laporte didn't boot Dvorak off the TWIT Network far earlier. the guy's completely lost it.
Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: Wormwood to All on Thu Sep 22 2022 12:58 am
Any listeners here?
I think I tuned into it a couple times. I'm honestly surprised Leo Laporte didn't boot Dvorak off the TWIT Network far earlier. the guy's completely lost it.
Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: DaiTengu to Wormwood on Tue Sep 27 2022 09:06 am
I think I tuned into it a couple times. I'm honestly surprised Leo Lapor didn't boot Dvorak off the TWIT Network far earlier. the guy's completel lost it.
meh. john still seems alright. that whole twit thing just came off as jealou
I also miss zdnet and TechTV. It' sbeen ages since I listened to twit. Speaking of Dvorak, there's an episode of Computer Chronicles where has an appearance with the "new" IBM PS/2. He was there to demonstrate it's "tool free" disassembly for upgrade and service (no need for tool kits in the future. )
Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: Moondog to Wormwood on Tue Sep 27 2022 03:54 pm
I also miss zdnet and TechTV. It' sbeen ages since I listened to twit. Speaking of Dvorak, there's an episode of Computer Chronicles where has a appearance with the "new" IBM PS/2. He was there to demonstrate it's "to free" disassembly for upgrade and service (no need for tool kits in the future. )
oh yeah. back then they were engineering all kinds of contraptions and plast
who are you talking about losing it? leo or dvorak?
Moondog wrote to Wormwood <=-
I also miss zdnet and TechTV. It' sbeen ages since I listened to twit.
Speaking of Dvorak, there's an episode of Computer Chronicles where has
an appearance with the "new" IBM PS/2. He was there to demonstrate
it's "tool free" disassembly for upgrade and service (no need for tool kits in the future. )
He had a hell of a time pulling it apart. The clips and brackets
worked real well. ZDS tried that and we had to use a fiberglass blade tool to act as a lever and shim.
to screws because clips would break, and items held together by
friction or connector tension woul d work their way loose. Replacement parts would come with screws or zip ties.
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The tool free design was a good idea, but standardizing screw head sizes and trying to keep screws a standard size was a better idea. Some cases had a combination of both flat head and phillips head screws, while Compaq was one of the first companies to move to star/ torx screws to keep knuckleheads with butter knives out of their cases.
Another source of the comlaint was from mainframe techs who were being forced into working on desktops. The were used to working in more spacious chassis, and it didn't require tearing half the system apart to pull a hard drive. Retaining trays held in by one or two screws shaved time off of replacing parts.
who are you talking about losing it? leo or dvorak?
i think he was saying dvorak lost it. seems like the same ol guy to me :shrug:
Dvorak.
Maybe he was always like that, but he kept his conspiracy-theory laden, borderline racist thoughts out of his public persona. He was a mildly entertaining, snarky curmudgeon. Once No Agenda started though, he just became angry. He went from taking snarky potshots at comments, to just
Leo also lost it, but in a different, far more common "mid life crisis" kind of way.
Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 09:59 am
Dvorak.
Maybe he was always like that, but he kept his conspiracy-theory laden, borderline racist thoughts out of his public persona. He was a mildly entertaining, snarky curmudgeon. Once No Agenda started though, he just became angry. He went from taking snarky potshots at comments, to just
oh i just know of his old stuff. i'm listening to dhunplugged now and see how it is.
Leo also lost it, but in a different, far more common "mid life crisis" kind of way.
yes, i need eye bleach.
Moondog wrote to Wormwood <=-
I also miss zdnet and TechTV. It' sbeen ages since I listened to twit.
I was just thinking back to the first dot-com boom/bust in 1999-2001. I was working at a startup in San Francisco, and MSNBC started with a base in SF as a tech TV channel. Interesting times.
Speaking of Dvorak, there's an episode of Computer Chronicles where has an appearance with the "new" IBM PS/2. He was there to demonstrate it's "tool free" disassembly for upgrade and service (no need for tool kits in the future. )
He had a hell of a time pulling it apart. The clips and brackets worked real well. ZDS tried that and we had to use a fiberglass blade tool to act as a lever and shim.
That's surprising - I worked in an IBM shop in the early '90s, and all the old PS/2s (model 25, 50, 60 and 80) all came apart with a quarter, as long as you weren't removing the motherboard.
Other than that line, they went back
to screws because clips would break, and items held together by friction or connector tension woul d work their way loose. Replacement parts would come with screws or zip ties.
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Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 08:29 am
The tool free design was a good idea, but standardizing screw head sizes trying to keep screws a standard size was a better idea. Some cases had combination of both flat head and phillips head screws, while Compaq was of the first companies to move to star/ torx screws to keep knuckleheads with butter knives out of their cases.
Another source of the comlaint was from mainframe techs who were being forced into working on desktops. The were used to working in more spacio chassis, and it didn't require tearing half the system apart to pull a ha drive. Retaining trays held in by one or two screws shaved time off of replacing parts.
oh i never saw torx screws in a computer case. i have seen all kinds of weir
i have seen gigantic harddrives and huge fans. engineers took quit some tim
leo leporte is such a poser, i've never liked his ass.
and then he was showing his dick pics online and i was like holy shit dude.
My Compaq Portable II from 1986 had torx or star head screws. Later on in
My Compaq Portable II from 1986 had torx or star head screws. Later on in the late 1990's I saw they retained them in the Compaq Deskpro desktops. They used green thumb screws to remove the side panel, and the thumb screw had a flat head slot plus the torx slot.
Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: MRO to Wormwood on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:19 pm
leo leporte is such a poser, i've never liked his ass.
and then he was showing his dick pics online and i was like holy shit dude.
leo is a disingenuous product shill. dvorak is actually smart and entertaining. seems like he is actually okay with who he is. generally you can gauge the quality of content(or the lack thereof) by the prevalence of advertisement.
i tried listening to a couple of episodes of twit and its just unlistenable. its pseudo tech talk interlaced with sanctioned social and cultural commentary and constant transition to contextualized advertisement.
MRO wrote to Moondog <=-
i never saw torx screws on a compaq or green thumb screws. i have
seen big thumb screws in these older computers. i had a whole
room full of 286's 386's and older junk. like you couldn't see
the floor until i went through it.
My Compaq Portable II from 1986 had torx or star head screws. Later on i the late 1990's I saw they retained them in the Compaq Deskpro desktops. They used green thumb screws to remove the side panel, and the thumb scre had a flat head slot plus the torx slot.
i never saw torx screws on a compaq or green thumb screws. i have seen big t i had a whole room full of 286's 386's and older junk. like you couldn't see
Re: No Agenda Podcast
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 10:20 pm
My Compaq Portable II from 1986 had torx or star head screws. Later on i
that's probably because they didn't want you to service it.
My Compaq Portable II from 1986 had torx or star head screws. Later on i the late 1990's I saw they retained them in the Compaq Deskpro desktops. They used green thumb screws to remove the side panel, and the thumb scre had a flat head slot plus the torx slot.
i never saw torx screws on a compaq or green thumb screws. i have seen big t i had a whole room full of 286's 386's and older junk. like you couldn't see
I guess those Compaqs had "slotted torx"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Slotted/Torx
"A combined slotted and Torx drive screw was used in electronics manufacturing. For example, Compaq used this type to combine the benefits of Torx in manufacturing and the commonality of flat drive in field repair situations. The slot was closed on the end"
big t i had a whole room full of 286's 386's and older junk. like you couldn't see
I agree Compaq was using torx screws to keep the idiots using butter knives as screwdrivers from touching something they shouldn't.
Regarding the Compaqs with no torx screws, were they business class or home/
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