It's a gaping hole, and I'd love to say I was surprised that their IT department didn't find it first, but I'm not. Security is the first thing to go when you're trying to save a buck or two in a budget.
Parson called St Louis. Post-Dispatch reporter Josh Renaud a "hacker" and vowed to seek criminal prosecution at a press conference on Thursday. Renaud's "crime?" Clicking "view source" on a publicly available webpage.
When I was reading that article this morning, I couldn't help but feel like this was just a natural progression of politicians/government attacking the press. I can't be so sure that a similar reaction would have been done if a random security researcher had contacted them to let them know.
When I was reading that article this morning, I couldn't help but feel like this was just a natural progression of politicians/government attacking the press. I can't be so sure that a similar reaction would have been done if random security researcher had contacted them to let them know.
DaiTengu
In this case the guy was sent to jail because he exploited the gap some months later after reporting it, in order to check if they had fixed it, after he had been explicitly told not to do it. Since he had been explicitly told not to do it they sold it as an unauthorized access to the judge.
Clown world we live in.
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In this case the guy was sent to jail because he exploited the gap
some months later after reporting it, in order to check if they had
fixed it, after he had been explicitly told not to do it. Since he had been explicitly told not to do it they sold it as an unauthorized
access to the judge.
Clown world we live in.
I've worked in companies like that. You report a problem that
management doesn't want to deal with and they just ignore it.
One guy got fired because he did his job of checking for security
issues. He ran an automated process that checked things and management freaked out because it found some holes.
My experience is ALL management is like that.
They go on and on and on about how they want to hear your ideas and your reports and that your opinion matters to them. You point at some issue that needs specific action, and you become their enemy, because for all their beautifull words, the only thing they want to hear from you is that everything is working fine.
I've worked in companies like that. You report a problem that
management doesn't want to deal with and they just ignore it.
One guy got fired because he did his job of checking for security
issues. He ran an automated process that checked things and
management freaked out because it found some holes.
My experience is ALL management is like that.
They go on and on and on about how they want to hear your ideas and your reports and that your opinion matters to them. You point at some issue that needs specific action, and you become their enemy, because for all their beautifull words, the only thing they want to hear from you is that everything is working fine.
Re: josh renault hacker
By: Arelor to Dr. What on Sat Oct 16 2021 09:54 pm
I've worked in companies like that. You report a problem that
management doesn't want to deal with and they just ignore it.
One guy got fired because he did his job of checking for security
issues. He ran an automated process that checked things and
management freaked out because it found some holes.
My experience is ALL management is like that.
They go on and on and on about how they want to hear your ideas and you reports and that your opinion matters to them. You point at some issue that needs specific action, and you become their enemy, because for all their beautifull words, the only thing they want to hear from you is th everything is working fine.
and when the hackers get in and destroy everything the you get fired for *N stopping it.
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My experience is ALL management is like that.
did you guys see this shit
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg8ynp/governor-wants-to-prosecute-journalis t-w ho-clicked-view-source-on-government-site
Missouri Governor Mike Parson wants to prosecute a journalist who warned the state that a government website left school teachers and administrators' Social Security numbers exposed.
Parson called St Louis. Post-Dispatch reporter Josh Renaud a "hacker" and vowed to seek criminal prosecution at a press conference on Thursday. Renaud's "crime?" Clicking "view source" on a publicly available webpage.
Why admit you're wrong ot take responsibility for your actions when you can criminalize your critics? That's perfect politician logic right there.
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I've worked in companies like that. You report a problem that
management doesn't want to deal with and they just ignore it.
One guy got fired because he did his job of checking for security
issues. He ran an automated process that checked things and management freaked out because it found some holes.
My experience is ALL management is like that.
They go on and on and on about how they want to hear your ideas and
your reports and that your opinion matters to them. You point at some issue that needs specific action, and you become their enemy, because
for all their beautifull words, the only thing they want to hear from
you is that everything is working fine.
ARELOR wrote to DR. WHAT <=-
I've worked in companies like that. You report a problem that
management doesn't want to deal with and they just ignore it.
One guy got fired because he did his job of checking for security
issues. He ran an automated process that checked things and management freaked out because it found some holes.
My experience is ALL management is like that.
They go on and on and on about how they want to hear your ideas and your reports and that your opinion matters to them. You point at some issue that needs specific action, and you become their enemy, because for all their beautifull words, the only thing they want to hear from you is that everything is working fine.
I worked for a YES MAN once. When someone else balked him on something and
I agreed, he asked why I didn't already speak up. LOL
Well, if it is more than one employee doing the bitching they may listen to the complaints. "May" being the magical word.
The problem is management is so passive-agressive dealing with legit complaints that anybody who speaks ends up speaking alone.
I have seen pretty scary stuff, such as a Doctor complaining that an ecograph was not working, when it was actually non working, and the rest of the people there saying the ecograph was fine.
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Re: Re: josh renault hacker
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ARELOR on
Tue Oct 26 2021 02:04 pm
ARELOR wrote to DR. WHAT <=-
I've worked in companies like that. You report a problem that
management doesn't want to deal with and they just ignore it.
One guy got fired because he did his job of checking for security
issues. He ran an automated process that checked things and management freaked out because it found some holes.
My experience is ALL management is like that.
They go on and on and on about how they want to hear your ideas and your reports and that your opinion matters to them. You point at some issue that needs specific action, and you become their enemy, because for all their beautifull words, the only thing they want to hear from you is that everything is working fine.
I worked for a YES MAN once. When someone else balked him on something and
I agreed, he asked why I didn't already speak up. LOL
Well, if it is more than one employee doing the bitching they may
listen to the complaints. "May" being the magical word.
The problem is management is so passive-agressive dealing with legit complaints that anybody who speaks ends up speaking alone.
I have seen pretty scary stuff, such as a Doctor complaining that an ecograph was not working, when it was actually non working, and the
rest of the people there saying the ecograph was fine.
I work for a company with a "strong company culture", which values "diversity" and so forth. It is the least diverse company I've ever worked for and the groupthink there is at a level you would see in a cult.
Everyone gets to the top by stroking the ego of those above them. When management has a brainfart and decides that the latest thought from Silicon Valley is what we should adopt, how do you, the lowly employee tell these
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Re: Re: josh renault hacker
By: Boraxman to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 12:33 pm
I work for a company with a "strong company culture", which values "diversity" and so forth. It is the least diverse company I've ever worked for and the groupthink there is at a level you would see in a cult.
Everyone gets to the top by stroking the ego of those above them. When management has a brainfart and decides that the latest thought from Silicon Valley is what we should adopt, how do you, the lowly employee tell these
that's the way it is now pretty much everywhere. the company i just
left acted like they were so good and well intentioned! they were going
to save the world and the environment! whats weird is they look like they are just trying to take over the world. i called the ceo dr evil.
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Re: Re: josh renault hacker
By: Boraxman to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 12:33 pm
I work for a company with a "strong company culture", which values "diversity" and so forth. It is the least diverse company I've ever work for and the groupthink there is at a level you would see in a cult.
Everyone gets to the top by stroking the ego of those above them. When management has a brainfart and decides that the latest thought from Silic Valley is what we should adopt, how do you, the lowly employee tell these
that's the way it is now pretty much everywhere. the company i just left acted like they were so good and well intentioned! they were going to save the world and the environment! whats weird is they look like they are just trying to take over the world. i called the ceo dr evil.
Aren't all these evil people who want to dominate, just trying to save the world?
The great evils are caused by people who think they can save us all.
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Re: Re: josh renault hacker
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sat
Oct 30 2021 09:22 pm
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Re: Re: josh renault hacker
By: Boraxman to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 12:33 pm
I work for a company with a "strong company culture", which values "diversity" and so forth. It is the least diverse company I've ever work for and the groupthink there is at a level you would see in a cult.
Everyone gets to the top by stroking the ego of those above them. When management has a brainfart and decides that the latest thought from Silic Valley is what we should adopt, how do you, the lowly employee tell these
that's the way it is now pretty much everywhere. the company i just left acted like they were so good and well intentioned! they were going to save the world and the environment! whats weird is they look like they are just trying to take over the world. i called the ceo dr evil.
Aren't all these evil people who want to dominate, just trying to save the world?
The great evils are caused by people who think they can save us all.
... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
Those who wish to dominate think of themselves first,and no one else.
They soon discover they can not do it all by themselves and must either work with or have others work for them. Non-skilled labor will work
for near nothing because they lack the bargaining power a person with a special skillset has. Even with skilled laborers, they'll discover the reason some employees demaned more money, and you get what you pay for when you go the cheaper route.
Regarding the brown nosing game, the reason why an employee that
appears to be incompetent can stay around is because they have
something else to offer or appear to know more about the people who run the operation.
At the moment, even unskilled workers, at least in Australia, have good bargaining power. Some are earning more than I am, as a professional, simply because of supply/demand.
What will happen, is the government will bring in hundreds of thousands of migrants to depress wages. Thats really what keeps low skilled workers cheap, not the workers value themselves.
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Re: Re: josh renault hacker
By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Nov 01 2021 10:00 pm
At the moment, even unskilled workers, at least in Australia, have good bargaining power. Some are earning more than I am, as a professional, simply because of supply/demand.
What will happen, is the government will bring in hundreds of thousands of migrants to depress wages. Thats really what keeps low skilled workers cheap, not the workers value themselves.
australia needs a fucking revolution. i dont know how the govt can
treat those people like that. ---
There is no chance that Australian's will go against the government in the way
they need to. Thats why Australia is the testbed for New World Order style programs, people just go along.
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There is no chance that Australian's will go against the government in the
they need to. Thats why Australia is the testbed for New World Order style programs, people just go along.
Before COVID, didn't they have a growing group of people who were not wanting to go along with the government?
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