Hello Everybody,

"I declare March 24 a day of national mourning."
~ Vladimir Putin, the de facto leader of the Russian Federation

Why, oh why, would he say such a thing?

"We know what the threat of terrorism is. Here we count on
cooperation with all states that sincerely share our pain and
are ready to really join forces in the fight against a common
enemy – international terrorism - in all its manifestations."

Who is Putin now? Aside from being an international criminal,
as a warrant for his arrest issued by ICC (124 countries, for
kidnapping children is still in effect.

Imagine that. An internationally wanted criminal in most of
the world begging everybody else for help.

"Terrorists, murderers... who do not and cannot have a nationality,
face one unenviable fate – retribution and oblivion. They have no
future."

And in the same speech, he blames it all on Ukrainians.
With no other proof or evidence other than his own holy word.

Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their dirty
deeds. But no worries. All 11 of them have been caught and done
away with, with cleanup on the way.

Ukraine denies the attack, and understands Vlad has lost his mind.

It is no wonder why Berlin (and the rest of the world) has stopped
referring to Putin as president (German Foreign Ministry).

I wonder what the world will be calling him next?

While the self-proclaimed president can refer to himself as
being anything he wants, the rest of the world is calling him
something else. I wonder what that something else might be?

Grand Ayatollah Vladimir Putin? Sounds about right. After all,
he does live in a mosque.

Have a great day.

full text of Putin speech -

https://tinyurl.com/yc89kavf


For Life,
Lee

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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 24.03.2024 01:11

LL> Imagine that. An internationally wanted criminal in most of the
LL> world begging everybody else for help.

It is well understood taking into account that the USA claims that it
has had the information about imminent terror acts in Moscow. As a CIA
general has said "we know exactly that it was not Ukraine." So, he
knows. ;-)

LL> "Terrorists, murderers... who do not and cannot have a nationality,
LL> face one unenviable fate - retribution and oblivion. They have no
LL> future."

LL> And in the same speech, he blames it all on Ukrainians. With no
LL> other proof or evidence other than his own holy word.

Mostly it is interested to note where do terrorists run after terror
acts in Russia. For instance, when the Russian girl-blogger Dugina was
killed by the Ukrainian terrorist -- she ran to Latvia. The IS
terrorists ran... to Ukraine, and were caught near the border. It was
probably easy to do because... it was easy to guess where they were
going to hide. ;-)

Now the IS is not a single group as it was when the USA had created it
as a weapon against the USSR in Afghanistan. The cells are mostly
isolated and very probably now there are fake IS cells which the US uses
when it's time to commit terror acts against its enemies and stay white
fluffy as an angel. And yes, in this case the US really knows for sure
who should not be to blame.

LL> Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their dirty deeds.
LL> But no worries. All 11 of them have been caught and done away with,
LL> with cleanup on the way.

LL> Ukraine denies the attack, and understands Vlad has lost his mind.

Should they tell truth and only truth in this case? ;-) If FSB proves
that Ukrainians waited for them and contacted them it would be fun.

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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x) Monday Mar 25, 2024, 09:42. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Lee Lofaso.

Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their dirty deeds.
But no worries. All 11 of them have been caught and done away with,
with cleanup on the way.
Ukraine denies the attack, and understands Vlad has lost his mind.

Should they tell truth and only truth in this case? ;-) If FSB proves
that Ukrainians waited for them and contacted them it would be fun.

Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.

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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 26.03.2024 01:53

LL>>> Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their
LL>>> dirty deeds. But no worries. All 11 of them have been
LL>>> caught and done away with, with cleanup on the way.
LL>>> Ukraine denies the attack, and understands Vlad has
LL>>> lost his mind.
ak>> Should they tell truth and only truth in this case? ;-) If
ak>> FSB proves that Ukrainians waited for them and contacted
ak>> them it would be fun.
AS>
AS> Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.

But it will not bad to search for the truth yourself. And the truth is
that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed enemy of IS --
the US, and it would be strange for IS to attack Russia, especially
while it has not given to IS any pretext for it. There are other players
who indeed has the reason and motives to make dirty work with others hands.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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And the truth is that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed enemy of IS -- the US,

You are not fighting the US, you silly man. If you were things would look much different.

and it would be strange for IS to attack Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any pretext for it.

Russia has attacked IS, that is why IS attacks Russia.

There are other players who indeed has the reason and motives to make dirty work with others hands.

IS attacked Russia, they openly said that they did. There are no other hands to make dirty work.

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x) Tuesday Mar 26, 2024, 14:53. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their
dirty deeds. But no worries. All 11 of them have been
caught and done away with, with cleanup on the way.
Ukraine denies the attack, and understands Vlad has
lost his mind.

Should they tell truth and only truth in this case? ;-) If
FSB proves that Ukrainians waited for them and contacted
them it would be fun.

Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.

But it will not bad to search for the truth yourself. And the truth is that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed enemy of IS --
the US, and it would be strange for IS to attack Russia, especially
while it has not given to IS any pretext for it.

It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS forces in Syria, killed many jihadists there.

Also, Russia is fighting against Ukraine, not US. When there will be fight of Russia against US, it means nuclear war.

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Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 26.03.2024 19:06

ak>>> And the truth is that Russia is actually fighting with
ak>>> the most accursed
ak>> >enemy of IS -- the US,
AI> You are not fighting the US, you silly man. If you were things
AI> would look much different.

The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more convenient.

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 26.03.2024 21:42


LL>>>>> Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their dirty
LL>>>>> deeds. But no worries. All 11 of them have been caught and done
LL>>>>> away with, with cleanup on the way. Ukraine denies the attack,
LL>>>>> and understands Vlad has lost his mind.
ak>>>> Should they tell truth and only truth in this case? ;-) If FSB
ak>>>> proves that Ukrainians waited for them and contacted them it
ak>>>> would be fun.
AS>>> Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.
ak>> But it will not bad to search for the truth yourself. And the
ak>> truth is that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed
ak>> enemy of IS -- the US, and it would be strange for IS to attack
ak>> Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any pretext for
ak>> it.

AS> It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS forces in
AS> Syria, killed many jihadists there.

However there are other points. Jihadists are, before all other things, religious fanatics -- they don't afraid to be killed, they don't afraid
to say their slogans and reasons why they commit this or that terrorist attack. When they attacked the US in 2001 they had told what they avenge of.

The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have been
captured and they said quite different things. They only have said that
they did this terror act for money. So, they are not religious fanatics,
they are just mercenaries. Now Russia is finding out who was the client
and for whom the event was most profitable.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have been captured and they said quite different things.

There is even no verifiable proof they actually did it and were just collected random in the streets and beaten to a confession ... for money maybe.

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You are not fighting the US, you silly man. If you were things
would look much different.

The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more convenient.

You have gotten lost in your own song and dance.

The US is not fighting Russia. Russia is not fighting the US.

Russia invaded Ukraine and that is why Russia is in the situation it is in today.

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The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more convenient.

In view of the fact that Russia can't even deal with the Ukrainian army, it should be relieved it is not fighting the USA (and in extension NATO) because if one thing is understood by now it is that the Russian ground forces are mediocre and only succeed because of the numbers, its airforce outdated and its Black Sea fleet a joke.

Russia can only wield nuclear threats, and that is where it ends.

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Hello Alexander,

Muslim Nazis, all from Ukraine, plotted and did their dirty
deeds. But no worries. All 11 of them have been caught and done
away with, with cleanup on the way. Ukraine denies the attack,
and understands Vlad has lost his mind.

Should they tell truth and only truth in this case? ;-) If FSB
proves that Ukrainians waited for them and contacted them it
would be fun.

Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.

But it will not bad to search for the truth yourself. And the
truth is that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed
enemy of IS -- the US, and it would be strange for IS to attack
Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any pretext for
it.

It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS forces in
Syria, killed many jihadists there.

However there are other points.

Even Assad and his own Syrian forces have been able to do that.
Without needing any assistance from anybody else.

Jihadists are, before all other things, religious fanatics --

Who is, or is not, a "religious fanatic"? Do MAGA idiots qualify?
After all, Donald Trump claims to be another Jesus Christ. And he
may be. At least to his MAGA crowd.

they don't afraid to be killed,

MAGA idiots are not afraid to be killed, as they know their
cause is just - and always right - as is their leader.

they don't afraid to say their slogans and reasons why they commit this or that terrorist attack.

Get real. None of Trump's followers were afraid to say their
slogans on January 6. In fact, none of Trump's followers were
afraid to act out their own fantasies.

Let's do keep this in mind.

Trump's followers did their patriotic duty on January 6.
And Trump has publicly stated that he will forgove them all.
Once he takes the oath of office. Again.

So who are the real "terrorists"? Do they even exist?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Which shoe fits your foot?

When they attacked the US in 2001 they had told what they avenge of.

"Allah Akbar!" was the only thing passengers on those aircraft
might have heard. And we all know what happened next.

But really. Let's be honest. Everybody knows it does not take
19 terrorist to fly four airplanes. All that is needed is one
pilot per airplane, for a total of four. That makes 15 innocent
jihadists, on board four airplanes, with nothing left to do but
pray.

The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have been captured and they said quite different things.

Some guys. Picked up for questioning. Saying whatever their
captors want them to say, in order to stop getting tortured.
How does that get any real answers as to who really did it,
and why?

They only have said that they did this terror act for money.

See there? They fessed up. Somebody paid their bar tab. And you
know how it is in Russian pubs. Nobody keeps their receipts.

What else do their captors want them to say? Your guess is
as good as mine.

So, they are not religious fanatics, they are just mercenaries.

That's right. Nobody heard any of them say "Allah Akbar!" when
they did their dirty deeds. And none of them collected on their
72 virgins. So it should be obvious to all that they didn't do
it.

Even Russians know the meaning of the phrase "Allah Akbar!"
as it means the same thing in every language on earth.

And you know, as well as everybody else, that a Muslim who fails
to say or acknowledge "Allah Akbar!" is no Muslim at all, but an
infidel. And you know what Muslims do to infidels ...

Now Russia is finding out who was the client and for whom the event was most
profitable.

You do not understand. Not really your fault. Probably because
you are an old coot. As most everybody else in fidonet. Please.
I am not trying to insult you. Merely stating what no old coot
publicly wants to admit. So here is what really happened -

The harem was full, and it was during ramadan. So we all know what
every Muslim fanatic was doing - or dreaming about doing - on that
fafeful night.

What is a young stud who is unable to find 72 virgins at a music
concert to do? Remember, these guys are young. And they are horny
as hell. And fully loaded.

At least they did not take hostages, as Hamas did in Gaza.

For Life,
Lee

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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 27.03.2024 14:44

ak>> The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more
ak>> convenient.
WD>
WD> In view of the fact that Russia can't even deal with the
WD> Ukrainian army, it should be relieved it is not fighting the
WD> USA (and in extension NATO) because if one thing is understood
WD> by now it is that the Russian ground forces are mediocre and
WD> only succeed because of the numbers, its airforce outdated and
WD> its Black Sea fleet a joke. Russia can only wield nuclear
WD> threats,and that is where it ends.

Well, probably US and NATO have very good armies. They demonstrated it
by bombing defenceless cities around the world. They are good to kill defenceless enemy in the desert after grounding its position with
impunity. There was one real war however, in Vietnam, and the USA ran
away from it with a bloody nose.

Bye, Ward!
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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 04:21

<skipped>
ak>> Jihadists are, before all other things, religious fanatics --

LL> Who is, or is not, a "religious fanatic"? Do MAGA idiots qualify?
LL> After all, Donald Trump claims to be another Jesus Christ. And he
LL> may be. At least to his MAGA crowd.

Well, you can see that MAGA fanatics are not mercenaries. They stormed
the Capitol not for money, but for some idea and their view of justice.
And being caught they clearly told the court about their motives.

The Crocus terrorists also could tell about their ideological motives.
But there weren't any. Indeed their faces were not looked intact after
the capturing procedure, but it was not a multy-years torture by
drowning as it does the US with the suspects in Guantanamo.

<skipped>
LL> Get real. None of Trump's followers were afraid to say their
LL> slogans on January 6. In fact, none of Trump's followers were
LL> afraid to act out their own fantasies.

Yes.

LL> Let's do keep this in mind.
LL> Trump's followers did their patriotic duty on January 6. And Trump
LL> has publicly stated that he will forgove them all. Once he takes
LL> the oath of office. Again.

Well, it depends on the point of view. If you claim that the events in
Kiev 2014 were perfectly legal, you can easily say that the entering the Capitol was just a people protest.

LL> So who are the real "terrorists"? Do they even exist?

We say not about terrorists in general, but about religious IS fanatics
-- the people who allegedly committed the attack on Crocus.

LL> One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
LL> Which shoe fits your foot?

Those captured said nothing about motives, accepting that they said that
it was done for money.

<slipped>
ak>> The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have
ak>> been captured and they said quite different things.

LL> Some guys. Picked up for questioning. Saying whatever their captors
LL> want them to say, in order to stop getting tortured. How does that
LL> get any real answers as to who really did it, and why?

Why do you think that the motive "we did it for money" is more
acceptable for FSB than "we did it because we fight with damn infidels"?
Is there a good reason for torture? ;-)

ak>> They only have said that they did this terror act for money.

LL> See there? They fessed up. Somebody paid their bar tab. And you
LL> know how it is in Russian pubs. Nobody keeps their receipts.

If the US, with its spying technology, wanted -- it could easily tell
who paid them, who called them, from where, and even to give the
dialogues printed copy. But the contents of this dialogues probably
exclude this possibility. ;-)

LL> You do not understand. Not really your fault. Probably because you
LL> are an old coot. As most everybody else in fidonet. Please. I am
LL> not trying to insult you. Merely stating what no old coot publicly
LL> wants to admit. So here is what really happened -

LL> The harem was full, and it was during ramadan. So we all know what
LL> every Muslim fanatic was doing - or dreaming about doing - on that
LL> fafeful night.

Yes, Ramanan is another reason why they were not Muslim fanatics.

LL> What is a young stud who is unable to find 72 virgins at a music
LL> concert to do? Remember, these guys are young. And they are horny
LL> as hell. And fully loaded.

LL> At least they did not take hostages, as Hamas did in Gaza.

Taking into account that every Jewish family in Israel has machine-guns
in their homes, and they all are army reservists including women, they
were lucky to stay alive.

Bye, Lee!
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There was one real war however, in Vietnam, and the USA ran
away from it with a bloody nose.

Contrary to what you may believe, the US were not defeated. It's just the political situation at home which made them pull-out ... probably you were too young then, over even inexistant even.

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x) Wednesday Mar 27, 2024, 09:36. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.

But it will not bad to search for the truth yourself. And the
truth is that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed
enemy of IS -- the US, and it would be strange for IS to attack
Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any pretext for
it.

It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS forces in
Syria, killed many jihadists there.

The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have been captured and they said quite different things. They only have said that they did this terror act for money. So, they are not religious fanatics, they are just mercenaries. Now Russia is finding out who was the client and for whom the event was most profitable.

It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian migrants instead of real terrorists...

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It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian migrants instead of real terrorists...

... and torture them to near-death so they'll confess to anything ...

Let's look at this, when you commit such a crime in Moscow, you ought to be prepared to die ... the real killers most likely got away.

Amazing that out of the blue, real quick, four guys hundreds of km from Moscow are arrested ... just like that ... by an FSB which was totally unprepared ...

I think the Russian people are lied to by its leadership ... again ... losing count ...

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alexander koryagin wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more convenient.

It sure beats the 1980s war plan of a land war in Europe, Soviet tanks
running through the Fulda gap into NATO countries, stalemate and
limited nuclear exchange. The dead in that scenario would find the
current situation preferable.



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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 12:10

AS>>>>> Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.
ak>>>> But it will not bad to search for the truth
ak>>>> yourself. And the truth is that Russia is actually
ak>>>> fighting with the most accursed enemy of IS -- the
ak>>>> US, and it would be strange for IS to attack
ak>>>> Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any
ak>>>> pretext for it.
AS>>> It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS
AS>>> forces in Syria, killed many jihadists there.
ak>> The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall
ak>> have been captured and they said quite different things.
ak>> They only have said that they did this terror act for
ak>> money. So, they are not religious fanatics, they are just
ak>> mercenaries. Now Russia is finding out who was the client
ak>> and for whom the event was most profitable.
AS>
AS> It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian
AS> migrants instead of real terrorists...

That guys had a well prepared plan and they were sure they could run
away. That's why they didn't hide there faces. After the attack they
sped up toward Ukraine and road cameras showed their speed as 140 km/hours. Also genetic expertise proves easily who held the weapon that was found.

Bye, Alex!
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x) Friday Mar 29, 2024, 09:44. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian
migrants instead of real terrorists...

That guys had a well prepared plan and they were sure they could run
away. That's why they didn't hide there faces. After the attack they
sped up toward Ukraine and road cameras showed their speed as 140 km/hours. Also genetic expertise proves easily who held the weapon that was found.

For now, I think, any result profitable for Russian government will do, and they can easily create it.

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