Nick Andre wrote to Mike Powell <=-

On 09 Nov 22 15:56:55, Mike Powell said the following to Nigel Reed:

I did not realize that Sportsnet had shut down. Thanks for the heads-up.

Its been down for at least several years? Bill McG had some sort of electrical problem that torched his Synchronet system and last I heard
he was trying to bring it back online.

That was ..... 2016 I think.

Someone else took it over and some of the echos had gated traffic. Since
it was mentioned here, I noticed that there is no longer any traffic. ;(




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On 11-09-22 23:59, Nick Andre <=-
spoke to Alan Ianson about Re: Bad behaviour not wan <=-

On 09 Nov 22 13:38:39, Alan Ianson said the following to Lee Lofaso:

The time he was challenged to prove he understood what a BBS was by logging in to a board, he didn't... he just posted a message from
another stupid NNTP site in Finland. He's never called any other board. Ever.

I have a record of him posting messages from 3:800/432 -- probability in
2003.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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Dale Shipp wrote to Nick Andre <=-

The time he was challenged to prove he understood what a BBS was by logging in to a board, he didn't... he just posted a message from
another stupid NNTP site in Finland. He's never called any other board. Ever.

I have a record of him posting messages from 3:800/432 -- probability
in 2003.

I am not sure he has always been make-believe.


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What was a BBS of days gone yore? Originally, it was a place
where one dialed-in to READ a "bulletin" or an announcement.
Hence, the name - BBS.

I guess many of the n00bs have not even seen any physical bulletin boards, having read from or posted to one. They know only of our virtual ones.



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Hello Alan,

[..]

I gave up on that a long time ago. If you write something in echomail,
it's into the wild and you have no khontrol, even routed metmail. You still
have the idiots that love to read everything in-transit...

It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what they want to discuss with other sysops.

Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

A meeting is when people get together for any reason. An echo is
an area for people to get together, for any reason. You have stated
yourself this is such an echo - a place for sysops to discuss what
they want to discuss with other sysops.

So far, so good. That is a concept I believe all can agree on.

But that is not the question.

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

The word comes from Middle English, and originally referred to a
designated hunting station.

But every time they try to gather, somebody lets the sunshine in,
and we all know what happens next.

For Life,
Lee

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It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what
they want to discuss with other sysops.

Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

A meeting is when people get together for any reason. An echo is
an area for people to get together, for any reason. You have stated
yourself this is such an echo - a place for sysops to discuss what
they want to discuss with other sysops.

So far, so good. That is a concept I believe all can agree on.

Good.

But that is not the question.

I see a deflection coming on.

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

We are not meeting in secret. We are having a discussion amongst ourselves.

When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or sneaking anything.

The word comes from Middle English, and originally referred to a
designated hunting station.

There is no hunt.

But every time they try to gather, somebody lets the sunshine in,
and we all know what happens next.

No, the echo is leaking. You are not the first leak and you won't be the last.

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When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or sneaking anything.

You got it wrong, Lee was talking about 'sneeking', not 'sneaking' ... surely there must be a difference ...

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Ward Dossche wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or sneaking anything.

You got it wrong, Lee was talking about 'sneeking', not 'sneaking' ... surely there must be a difference ...

Yes, he "snuck" that one in on me.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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You got it wrong, Lee was talking about 'sneeking', not 'sneaking' AI>WD> ... surely there must be a difference ...

Yes, he "snuck" that one in on me.

It just means I need a beer ...

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

Why is that a problem?


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Hello Alan,

It's not about Khontrol, it's simply a place for sysops to discuss what
they want to discuss with other sysops.

Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

Only the kind that fools believe.

A meeting is when people get together for any reason. An echo is
an area for people to get together, for any reason. You have stated
yourself this is such an echo - a place for sysops to discuss what
they want to discuss with other sysops.

So far, so good. That is a concept I believe all can agree on.

Good.

Sysops are able to do that now. in this echo, and elsewhere.
And yet, you claim not to be a happy camper.

But that is not the question.

I see a deflection coming on.

Not at all.

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

We are not meeting in secret. We are having a discussion amongst ourselves.

With others present. Which is what your gripe is, and of which
you have been unable to explain why.

When sysops are sneeking to meet, notably as secret lovers, it is
called a *tryst*. Do you understand what the origin of the word is?

I understand the word but you are using it incorrectly. We are not lovers or
sneaking anything.

My apologies for the typo. The word is "seeking" - as it is very
clear there are others aside from sysops who are present in this echo.

The word comes from Middle English, and originally referred to a
designated hunting station.

There is no hunt.

The word "tryst" means "a designated hunting station" - not that
there is necessarily anything to hunt or worth hunting.

IOW, a place to meet, in secret, to do things only sysops would want
to do amongst themselves.

But every time they try to gather, somebody lets the sunshine in,
and we all know what happens next.

No, the echo is leaking. You are not the first leak and you won't be the last.

Do you beat your meat?

Be honest.
You're a guy.

But to do it as a group ...
With others watching ...

Now that is what I call the greatest show on earth!

Even though nobody could beat Jim Morrison's act ...

"I can do anything!" ~Jim Morrison

For Life,
Lee

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

Only the kind that fools believe.

Since you seem to be the only one that believes it, I would have to agree
with you regarding fools.


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Yes, it is. There is absolutely no doubt it is about Khontrol.

What Khontrol is it that you speak of?

Only the kind that fools believe.

Apparently.

I see a deflection coming on.

Not at all.

It was/is simply delection.

With others present. Which is what your gripe is, and of which
you have been unable to explain why.

I have explained it simply and completely

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Hello Mike,

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

Why is that a problem?

Not everybody agrees with Vladimir Putin. Or with Mike Powell.
But if you adore Putin, and love secrecy, please feel free to move
to Russia. Steven Seagal did. And he loves it.

For Life,
Lee

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Mike Powell <=-

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

Why is that a problem?

Not everybody agrees with Vladimir Putin. Or with Mike Powell.
But if you adore Putin, and love secrecy, please feel free to move
to Russia. Steven Seagal did. And he loves it.

Nor apparently with Joe Biden, who also knows that there are some
government things that are not for public consumption. But maybe Lee
Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not understand such things and likes to make trouble. That would make sense.

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Hello Mike,

What you are suggesting is for sysops to have meetings in secret.
Where only they can play. With nobody else around.

Why is that a problem?

Not everybody agrees with Vladimir Putin. Or with Mike Powell.
But if you adore Putin, and love secrecy, please feel free to move
to Russia. Steven Seagal did. And he loves it.

Nor apparently with Joe Biden, who also knows that there are some government things that are not for public consumption.

I do not know about Joe Biden. But there is one thing I do know
about Steven Seagal - he and his film crew love pizza. Especially
pizza made in the French Quarter, on Bourbon Street. Bill Clinton
and Helmut Kohl preferred Caf‚ du Monde, where both made pigs of
themselves in public.

But maybe Lee Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not understand such things and likes to make trouble.

The entity known as Lee Lofaso is a figment of somebody's wild
and overactive imagination. The entity that calls itself Donald
Trump is a stable genius that only he himelf truly understands.

That would make sense.

You said it. Not me.

For Life,
Lee

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Mike Powell <=-

But maybe Lee Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not understand such things and likes to make trouble.

The entity known as Lee Lofaso is a figment of somebody's wild
and overactive imagination.

Yes, we all know that, Beeeorn.


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I replaced some fluorescent bulbs recently and found LED tubes - they're the same form factor, but inside are a line of LEDs. They lightg up quickly and don't flicker like fluorescents do.

When I took over the shop, the previous installation had a
series of 8ft-long and 4ft-long fluorescent T12's. When some of
the transformers started to fail after 2 or years of my
occupation, I had all the T12's changed to support T8's. That
was 7 years ago. Now, some of those "new" instant-start
transformers are failing. I am at the point where direct-wire
LED tubes would be a more welcoming solution. But the 8ft-ers
cost about $32 a piece. I would need about 24.

I am not sure if I've seen any other retail space using LED
lighting exclusively.

I've gone through at least a handful of T12 fluorescents, in my
first couple of years of operation, and then even MORE T8's
later on. At about $20 a piece, they could add up.

But the LED variety cost even more.

Which kind did you settle with? Direct-wire types, or the ones
that work with the existing ballast?

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At about $20 a piece, they could add up.

But the LED variety cost even more.

I bought mine (60 cm T8) from AliExpress for about 5 EUR each (free shipping). They were connected so that all I had to do was remove the starter. Removing the ballast is optional.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32797875292.html



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Hello Bj”rn Felten!

** On Thursday 15.12.22 - 01:15, Bj”rn Felten wrote to August Abolins:

I bought mine (60 cm T8) from AliExpress for about 5 EUR each (free shipping). They were connected so that all I had to do was remove the starter. Removing the ballast is optional.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32797875292.html

I thought ballast=starter. So, it looks like you got "direct-
wire" types. That's the way to go.

I'm surprised that those tubes have "holes" for cooling. I
didn't think they would heat up at all.

Mine need to be brighter. I have a 12-14 ft high ceiling.
And I need 4ft and 8ft types.

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Hello Dan,

But maybe Lee Lofaso is more like Donald Trump, who apparently does not
understand such things and likes to make trouble.

The entity known as Lee Lofaso is a figment of somebody's wild
and overactive imagination.

Yes, we all know that, Beeeorn.

Speak for yourself -

https://www.41051.com/xmaslyrics/grinch.html


Merry Fucking Christmas,
Lee

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Hello Dale,

The time he was challenged to prove he understood what a BBS was by
logging in to a board, he didn't... he just posted a message from
another stupid NNTP site in Finland. He's never called any other board.
Ever.

I have a record of him posting messages from 3:800/432 -- probability in 2003.

You should check them. Then you will know the truth.

I have posted messages from many lands. But from Finland? That came
later, given the date you mentioned.

It all started in Texas. I was using Frank Vest's system at the time,
having been invited to his board. We were all enjoying a general chat
echo, and then I noticed Frank was posting messages in the Fidonews
echo. It was fun reading, but I had no write access from his board.

I have no idea as to why Frank had it listed as a "read only" echo.
Especially since I had read and write access from other boards.
Including boards in the USA. I simply thought it was an oversight
on his part.

So I asked Frank to grant me write access to the Fidonews echo.
He refused, but not for long as I had other places to do so from.

That is when I started posting messages in the Fidonews echo from
Steve Asher's sytem - in Australia.

It did not take long for Frank Vest to notice. So he decided to
retire as editor of the Fidonews, naming Bj”rn Felten as his choice
to replace him. And then he walked away, shutting down his board.

This act deeply upset Ross Cassell, who never fully recovered.
Has always blamed me. Ever since. For causing Frank Vest to name
Bj”rn Felten as editor of the Fidonews rather than himself.

Not that I had anything to do with it. I mean, Frank Vest was
editor of the Fidonews and free to name his own replacement as
editor. So please. Don't blame me.

But Ross Cassell was not done. He still had dreams of taking over
the echo he has always dreamed would make him "King of Fido".

That is when I set my true plan into action.

I never knew until then I had so much influence over Fidonet sysops.

Go ahead. Check your logs. And then you will know the truth.
The real truth. As to why Ross Cassell left Fidonet.

Well, not entirely my fault. There was one other factor.

The other factor being Wayne Chirnside. He was the one factor
that could (and did) send Ross Cassell totally off the edge.

That's right. One lunatic is bad enough. But two of them, teaming
up together, was just too much for any sysop to handle.

You see, the entity known as Wayne Chirnsde is/was not really a he,
but rather a she. A clinical psychologist, by profession. And she had
a study she was conducting, with one special project - megalomania.

When the basis of her study found out we were both posting messages
from the same board in the land of Oz, it just could not go unanswered.
So Ross sent Steve Asher a bunch of netmails, loaded with obscenities,
showing the Aussie from Adelaide how upset he was.

So Steve Asher did what any other sysop would do. He dropped the
Fidonews echo from his board. And messages continued being posted
in the Fidonews echo. With no restrictions on anybody who wanted
to do so.

Ross Cassell was still upset, and continued to whine. Finding the
same two individuals who were posting from a board in the land of Oz
posting from a different board.

We all know how well that went.

Bj”rn Felten did what any other sysop would do. He reminded the whiner
that a sysop is lord and master of his own board.

Ross Cassell made his exit from Fidonet shortly afterwards.

For Life,
Lee

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On 02-11-23 22:34, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Truly Bad Behavior <=-

The time he was challenged to prove he understood what a BBS was by
logging in to a board, he didn't... he just posted a message from
another stupid NNTP site in Finland. He's never called any other board.
Ever.

I have a record of him posting messages from 3:800/432 -- probability in 2003.

This post was made quite a while ago.

You should check them. Then you will know the truth.

I doubt that they would convince anyone, even if I could find them.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)


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Lee Lofaso wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

That's right. One lunatic is bad enough. But two of them, teaming
up together, was just too much for any sysop to handle.

So you are chastising someone for their behavior but then admitting to bad,
and possibly intentional, behavior of your own? Nice.

Bj”rn Felten did what any other sysop would do. He reminded the whiner that a sysop is lord and master of his own board.

I am sure you did.



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Hello Mike,

That's right. One lunatic is bad enough. But two of them, teaming
up together, was just too much for any sysop to handle.

So you are chastising someone for their behavior but then admitting to bad,
and possibly intentional, behavior of your own? Nice.

The "King of Fido" has only himself to blame. Nobody else. Even
if they are fictional characters of somebody else's making.

Bj”rn Felten did what any other sysop would do. He reminded the LL>whiner

that a sysop is lord and master of his own board.

I am sure you did.

The sum of the ASCII values of my name prove exactly who and what
I am (as recorded in Revelation 13:18) -

LEE LOFASO = 666

See what happens when you call 666 ...

For those who are not aware, the devil's hotline is just one
call away, at 666-666-6666. Available day or night ...

For Life,
Lee

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