I've figured out why Oprah decided to have an enjoyable converation about alleged racism in the royal family: Not only to weaken our ally state Great Britain, but also to cause deeper division between blacks &
whites. Too many blacks voted Republican in 2020 and people like Oprah
are taking a stand against it.
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I've figured out why Oprah decided to have an enjoyable converation
about alleged racism in the royal family: Not only to weaken our
ally state Great Britain, but also to cause deeper division between
blacks & whites. Too many blacks voted Republican in 2020 and people
like Oprah are taking a stand against it.
Pointing out racism does not cause deeper divisions between blacks and whites. Rather, it causes deeper divisions between non-racists and
racists. Given that most of the racists are white and most of the blacks are non-racists, and both of those are the loudest voices concerning
dispels that myth. I can tell you for a fact that pointing out racism
does not cause deeper divisions between blacks and non-racist whites.
I had this whole diatribe written and then reread your last sentence,
"Too many blacks voted Republican in 2020 and people like Oprah are
taking a stand against it." Ultimately, what is your argument?
Pointing out racism does not cause deeper divisions between blacks an whites. Rather, it causes deeper divisions between non-racists andI don't see it that way. Why doesn't Oprah point out that Queen
Elizabeth II and all her descendants are part black? If the baby were to have brown skin, it would be as much the Queen's fault as it is Meghan's fault.
racists. Given that most of the racists are white and most of the bla are non-racists, and both of those are the loudest voices concerning
That's a hilarious generalization. I don't see it that way. It's
offensive to say that most whites are racist, and it's ridiculous to say that most blacks are non-racists. Where did you get those statistics
from? They sound faulty.
dispels that myth. I can tell you for a fact that pointing out racism does not cause deeper divisions between blacks and non-racist whites.
You can tell me for an opinion but that's not a fact.
Oprah wants to convert more blacks to Democrat by telling them that the royal family is racist.
How you see it and how it is are apparently two different things. Is that Oprah's responsibility?
It doesn't cause deeper divisions for me, and that's a fact. BLM, whose whole raison d'etre is pointing out racism, has quite a lot of white allies. If what you're saying is true, that support should be dwindling. But it is not; it is growing.
That's quite the conspiracy theory you've got there. Americans switch US political parties based on their perception of the British royal family? Are you aware -- really, really aware -- of how absurd that sounds?
I've figured out why Oprah decided to have an enjoyable converation about alleged racism in the royal family: Not only to weaken our ally state Great
Britain, but also to cause deeper division between blacks & whites. Too many
blacks voted Republican in 2020 and people like Oprah are taking a stand against it.
She knows that Queen Elizabeth is black, but it's not convenient for her to point it out. For Oprah, it's all about making black people feel victimized by whites.
Alternatively, if it were Meghan Markle's black mom who had concerns
about the baby having white skin, do you think Oprah (or her producers) would give life to that story? I get it that Oprah's the interviewer,
but their dialogue was pre-planned. Oprah's reaction to the "skin color" thing was fake. She made it sound like she had never heard a racist comment in her entire life. Real people have thicker skin than that.
That's quite the conspiracy theory you've got there. Americans switch political parties based on their perception of the British royal fami Are you aware -- really, really aware -- of how absurd that sounds?I apologize, for there are things that you don't get: anti-white
attitudes are fertilizer for Democrat votes during harvest season. The more uncomfortable black people can be made to feel around white people, the more the Democrats win. (Although it should be a victory for Republicans instead, if people would wake up!)
No, it's about pointing out racism.
Is this "harvest season?" Seems a little early to me. That, and I think the rest of your argument is BS, too. Do you have any proof to back it
up?
Racism is a gimmick, and this gimmick affects everyone. People of all colors are affected by racism, and if the color ratio is
disproportionate, then I make no apology for that. Oprah's production
team made that entire interview revolve around the racism allegation.
It's all that anyone takes away from it, other than the fact that the white boy is treating his black wife like trash and then selling their dirty laundry to that snake Oprah.
Both Prince Harry and Oprah are a disgrace to their countries, and poor Meghan just thought it would be cool to be new blood in the palace.
My sympathy is for everyone involved except for Harry & Oprah. They both have poor judgement.
Is this "harvest season?" Seems a little early to me. That, and I thi the rest of your argument is BS, too. Do you have any proof to back i up?
The BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the black vote?
What choice did black people have when the media was lying saying that covid affects black more than other colors? Would any sane black person vote for Trump then?
Why are you so offended by an Oprah interview? It's like you're taking it personally or something.
The media did not lie. You might think they said that more Black people get COVID than others, which is false, but that's not what they said.
They said that Black people are considerably more at risk of
complications if they do contract COVID, which is true.
I'm offended because I'm a British American and she's trashing my motherland.
I'm especially offended because she's doing it to gain political points for the Democrats.
The media did not lie. You might think they said that more Black peop get COVID than others, which is false, but that's not what they said.
But you don't even know which media outlet I'm quoting and you're saying "They didn't say that." You're defending them without even knowing who "they" are.
Here's what CNN says:
"Black Americans have more existing medical issues, less access to healthcare, and are more likely to work in unstable jobs."
That's all BS.
More existing medical issues than who? Black people are more likely to have sickle cell anemia than whites. Is that what they're basing their generalization on?
Less access to healthcare? Everyone has access to healthcare in the USA. There's no more healthcare for whites than there is for blacks.
More likely to work in unstable jobs? That's crap.
It's all crap Jeff. I understand that perhaps you were assaulted by a Republican at a young age, but he can't hurt you anymore and the Republicans of today are only trying to help.
No, it's about pointing out racism.
Racism is a gimmick, and this gimmick affects everyone.
People of all colors are affected by racism, and if the color ratio is disproportionate, then I make no apology for that. Oprah's production team made that entire interview revolve around the racism allegation. It's all that anyone takes away from it, other than the fact that the white boy is treating his black wife like trash and then selling their dirty laundry to that snake Oprah.
Both Prince Harry and Oprah are a disgrace to their countries, and poor Meghan just thought it would be cool to be new blood in the palace.
My sympathy is for everyone involved except for Harry & Oprah. They both have poor judgement.
Is this "harvest season?" Seems a little early to me. That, and I think
the rest of your argument is BS, too. Do you have any proof to back it
up?
The BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the black vote?
What choice did black people have when the media was lying saying that covid
affects black more than other colors?
Would any sane black person vote for Trump then?
"Black Americans have more existing medical issues, less access to healthcare, and are more likely to work in unstable jobs."
That's all BS.
Is it? Proof?
Nope. People with money and/or insurance get much better healthcare than those without. If you think anyone can go to the ER and get treated, try
If scientists had proof that blacks are more prone to dying from covid than whites, then that was an answer that they were seeking. But this information isn't coming from scientists, it's coming from CNN.
Not all black people are poor. Are wealthy black people less at risk
than poor? That's not something that CNN included in their fake article.
More likely to work unstable jobs? Like who? What about Kamala? Is she
in an unstable job? How about Oprah? Unstable? How about the guy who checks the gas meters? Seems pretty stable to me.
That sounds like a regional issue. In NY, PA & NM the hospitals are required to provide stablizing treatment to everyone despite their
ability to pay and despite how liberals prefer to narrate it.
Each and every one of us, the whole world over. So, what are you
going to do about it? What are others, including myself, going to
What makes you any better than Harry and Meghan, or Oprah, or the
Queen of England?
Did they? What about other racists and bigots around the world?
More blacks per capita died of covid than whites. As noted by
the news media. Partly due to Trump's incompetence in dealing with
the virus, in which he received most of the blame.
Why are you so offended by an Oprah interview? It's like you're JT>takingit personally or something.
I'm offended because I'm a British American and she's trashing my motherland.
I'm especially offended because she's doing it to gain political points for
the Democrats.
They said that Black people are considerably more at risk of
complications if they do contract COVID, which is true.
Here's what CNN says:
"Black Americans have more existing medical issues, less access to healthcare, and are more likely to work in unstable jobs."
That's all BS.
More existing medical issues than who? Black people are more likely to have
sickle cell anemia than whites. Is that what they're basing their generalization on?
Less access to healthcare?
Everyone has access to healthcare in the USA.
There's no more healthcare for whites than there is for blacks.
More likely to work in unstable jobs? That's crap.
It's all crap Jeff.
I understand that perhaps you were assaulted by a Republican at a young age,
but he can't hurt you anymore and the Republicans
of today are only trying to help.
The BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the black vote?
I'm especially offended because she's doing it to gain political points for the Democrats.
More existing medical issues than who? Black people are more likely to have sickle cell anemia than whites. Is that what they're basing their generalization on?
That sounds like a regional issue. In NY, PA & NM the hospitals are required to
provide stablizing treatment to everyone despite their ability to pay and >despite how liberals prefer to narrate it.
The BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the black vote?Apparently, they are not real happy with him as he has, so far, not followed up on some of his promises to them.
I'm especially offended because she's doing it to gain political points the Democrats.
I believe she is just doing it for attention and/or they are doing it to bring down the royal house.
My impression of her is that she is a lot like some other Hollywood actresses... very attractive and very talented but also very, very crazy.
Not all black people are poor. Are wealthy black people less at risk than poor? That's not something that CNN included in their fake artic
How is that relevant? If it's something you want to know, perhaps you could search for existing research or fund new research.
They didn't say more prone to dying; they said more prone to complications. Here's some research from scientists:
"Stabilizing" being the key word. That's emergency care, not health
care. The ER will help you if you go into diabetic shock, but won't
Contrast what you just said with the universal healthcare to which every single citizen of every single industrialized country other than the US has access.
You say this, but hopkinsmedicine.org is attributing the disproportion to poverty, crowded housing, working in essential fields. That's how that is relevant.Not all black people are poor. Are wealthy black people less at than poor? That's not something that CNN included in their fakeHow is that relevant? If it's something you want to know, perhaps you could search for existing research or fund new research.
They didn't say more prone to dying; they said more prone to complications. Here's some research from scientists:Your article is from a different source. I'm not saying one's more wrong than the other, but that just goes to show how the media is manipulating useful divisive material for Democrat profit. Which university's researcher do we feel like believing today? And for what? Just to
exploit blacks? That's not worth my time (unless I got an election to win.)
"Stabilizing" being the key word. That's emergency care, not health care. The ER will help you if you go into diabetic shock, but won'tWhat more do you want? I have not heard any report of anyone being
denied care for covid.
Contrast what you just said with the universal healthcare to which ev single citizen of every single industrialized country other than the has access.The USA is unlike other countries in more ways than that. What other country has a national debt in the trillions but still has money left
over to pay for universal healthcare for everyone on earth who's capable of sneaking in through Mexico?
Oprah is Oprah.
And is not a politician, or a queen of any kind.
The first of human rights is accessibility to quality health care.
If it is not affordable, it is not accessible.
The USA did sign the UN Declaration on Human Rights.
Along with most other countries of the world.
sickle cell anemia than whites. Is that what they're basing their generalization on?
If black folks had the same access to quality health care as do
white folks, then not as many black folks would be suffering from
those conditions.
Poor folks get welfare, being unable to support themselves.
Then use SSI as means to get health care. Not quality health
That is what it is like for black folks in a white man's world.
More white folks have access to quality health care than any
other race, including black folks.
IIRC, they are more likely to have some other diet-related healh issues, like high cholestorol and diabetes, too.
That sounds like a regional issue. In NY, PA & NM the hospitals are requi >to
provide stablizing treatment to everyone despite their ability to pay and >despite how liberals prefer to narrate it.
It is that way in a lot of places. However, I am not sure how many of them are also required not to bill those persons or use hard-collection techniques against them.
The BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the black voteApparently, they are not real happy with him as he has, so far, not followed up on some of his promises to them.
As compared to what, four more years of Trump? Context is everything.
The BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the blac voteApparently, they are not real happy with him as he has, so far, not followed up on some of his promises to them.
As compared to what, four more years of Trump? Context is everything.
The Democrats could have nominated someone else.
You say this, but hopkinsmedicine.org is attributing the disproportio poverty, crowded housing, working in essential fields. That's how tha relevant.Not all black people are poor. Are wealthy black people les than poor? That's not something that CNN included in theirHow is that relevant? If it's something you want to know, perhap could search for existing research or fund new research.
How does it contradict the original statement?
Of course it's from a differnt source. It's from a *scientific* source, which you requested. It's not spin, it's fact, a distinction you seem to have trouble making.
I want universal healthcare. COVID is but one disease/condition among many.
country has a national debt in the trillions but still has money left over to pay for universal healthcare for everyone on earth who's capa of sneaking in through Mexico?
You tell me. How do other industrialized nations handle deficits and refugees?
black voteThe BLM guy said "we elected you Joe Biden." Did Joe win the
Apparently, they are not real happy with him as he has, so far, not
followed up on some of his promises to them.
As compared to what, four more years of Trump? Context is everything.
The Democrats could have nominated someone else.
Oprah is Oprah.
And is not a politician, or a queen of any kind.
She's a very influential Democrat. Just saying her name makes me want to vote
for kente cloth-clad Democrats.
The first of human rights is accessibility to quality health care.
If it is not affordable, it is not accessible.
The media wanted to make black people feel desperate under a Republican president.
Surely "covid worse for blacks" is no longer a story in the media.
But it sure was profitable (for dems) while it lasted.
Now we're on to bigger and better things, like "Asians being attacked by paid Democrat activists."
The USA did sign the UN Declaration on Human Rights.
Along with most other countries of the world.
Health care in the USA is perfectly fine the way it is, at least in the 5 states I've lived in. Is health care so bad in Louisiana that they won't treat blacks for covid?
sickle cell anemia than whites. Is that what they're basing their
generalization on?
If black folks had the same access to quality health care as do
white folks, then not as many black folks would be suffering from
those conditions.
Totally wrong General.
It's a hereditary disease that exists primarily among people of African descent.
They're gonna have sickle cell anemia whether they have access to "quality"
medical care of not.
What's quality medical care anyway?
Everyone gets treated the same at the hospitals in NY.
Only wealthy people have access to quality health care?
Then why did grammy award winner/hip hop artist Prodigy die of sickle cell anemia years prior to the pandemic?
Your people are preying on black people. What's worse is that they're messing with their minds and making them feel desperate during the pandemic.
Poor folks get welfare, being unable to support themselves.
Then use SSI as means to get health care. Not quality health
You're talking about several different groups of poor black people.
Not everyone's poor for the same reasons, not even if they all have the same
skin color or financial status.
What you're saying is full of generalizations too.
Do you think that it's accurate to generalize groups of black people based on their financial status?
That is what it is like for black folks in a white man's world.
What you're describing sounds like that's life for everyone in your state.
Do they give disabled whites more than they give disabled blacks?
More white folks have access to quality health care than any
other race, including black folks.
Cheers to white people then!
They must be doing something right! Learn from them!
If there are black people in my town who don't know where the medicaid office is located, I will give them directions.
It is that way in a lot of places. However, I am not sure how many of them are also required not to bill those persons or use hard-collection techniques against them.
Hospitals will try to collect their money, but I can't believe that would cause a person not to seek medical treatment during the pandemic. I've racked up thousands in medical bills when I didn't have coverage, and it just disappeared from my credit report after about 7 years.
I'm having trouble just eating whatever you say.
On 20 Mar 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...I want universal healthcare. COVID is but one disease/condition among
It's not a contradiction, just an alternative story. You said "They die more from complications" and you were quoting some other hospital's research. And that's ok, but Johns Hopkins University said it was due to poverty. So my point is that there are a slew of talking points to make black people angry.You say this, but hopkinsmedicine.org is attributing the disprop poverty, crowded housing, working in essential fields. That's hoNot all black people are poor. Are wealthy black peopl than poor? That's not something that CNN included in tHow is that relevant? If it's something you want to know, p could search for existing research or fund new research.
Of course it's from a differnt source. It's from a *scientific* sourc which you requested. It's not spin, it's fact, a distinction you seem have trouble making.
I have conflicting info from Johns Hopkins University. That's not a
spin, and that's a fact too. I'm having trouble just eating whatever you say. I think that's what you do with liberal news, but not me. Johns Hopkins is a real university and real hospital in Maryland. I'm not
saying yours isn't, but there are more than 1 "scientific truths" in
this discussion.
I want universal healthcare. COVID is but one disease/condition among many.That's ok, but that's a different subject worthy of its own thread.
They don't have thousands of undocumented migrants pouring in for breakfast & then thousands more by lunch time. Italy & Spain get a few, but nothing like this.country has a national debt in the trillions but still has money over to pay for universal healthcare for everyone on earth who's of sneaking in through Mexico?You tell me. How do other industrialized nations handle deficits and refugees?
I have no idea what is her party affiliation. Or if she is affiliated
with any political party. Could be she is exactly what she has always
been - an entertainer.
Black folks not only felt desperate, but actually were desperate
under a Republican president. And not just under the last one.
Covid is worse for every group that is not white.
Eight Asian women were murdered by a crazy white guy.
Have no idea whether he is a Democrat, Republican, Independent,
or even if he is or was ever a registered voter. Only that he
is a crazy white guy who apparently hated Asian women.
Indeed, but probably not angry in the way that you think. It's a well-known fact that people in poverty have inferior healthcare, if any
at all. It would not be surprising to learn that this lifelong lack of healthcare resulted in more complications when they contracted COVID.
"People in poverty" aren't the same as "black people."
Skin color is the oldest Democrat trick in the book.
Statistics are recorded for entertainment.
"Black people more likely to get stale bread at the grocery store"
"Blacks less likely to become mayor of Austin"
"Blacks more likely to catch covid from caucasian non-maskers"
I have no idea what is her party affiliation. Or if she is affiliated
with any political party. Could be she is exactly what she has always
been - an entertainer.
Either you're under her spell, or you have an instinct to defend the liberal
propaganda. Loyalty is a good feature, but integrity is more valuable.
Black folks not only felt desperate, but actually were desperate
under a Republican president. And not just under the last one.
I'm sorry you felt that way. I feel significantly more desperate under this
particular Democrat president. We need Obama back.
Covid is worse for every group that is not white.
Maybe the Chinese military is friends with the Aryan Brotherhood?
Eight Asian women were murdered by a crazy white guy.
Have no idea whether he is a Democrat, Republican, Independent,
or even if he is or was ever a registered voter. Only that he
is a crazy white guy who apparently hated Asian women.
Just remember it as: "White people are racist, others are not." That's the message that the liberal training camp is broadcasting.
Despite the attacker saying nothing about being a white supremacist, you can
expect the killings to lead to a CBS special all about white-on-asian hatred
which will often refer back to Trump calling the virus "the China virus."
This is all probably part of Katie Couric's reprogramming initiative.
Statistics are recorded for entertainment.
Nope. You clearly don't understand statistics.
Statistics are recorded for entertainment.
Nope. You clearly don't understand statistics.
Statistics don't solve problems. When they're focused on ridiculous topics, like "which color does covid affect more," they cause problems.
Donald J. Trump has been broadcasting his message of hate, especially
in regards to Asians, by calling the new coronavirus "the China Virus"
- resulting in increased violence against Asians everywhere.
Nope. You clearly don't understand statistics.
Statistics don't solve problems. When they're focused on ridiculous topics, like "which color does covid affect more," they cause problem
In fact, they do help solve problems. LOTS of problems. They help us
model the world around us.
Nope. You clearly don't understand statistics.
Statistics don't solve problems. When they're focused on ridicul topics, like "which color does covid affect more," they cause pr
In fact, they do help solve problems. LOTS of problems. They help us model the world around us.
Statistics help the media divide people by color, so I guess you're
right.
Statistics don't solve problems. When they're focused on ridiculous topics, like "which color does covid affect more," they cause problems.
In fact, they do help solve problems. LOTS of problems. They help us model the world around us.
Statistics help the media divide people by color, so I guess you're right.
You're maligning an entire branch of mathematics because you don't like one application.
Donald J. Trump has been broadcasting his message of hate, especially
in regards to Asians, by calling the new coronavirus "the China Virus"
- resulting in increased violence against Asians everywhere.
Trump's no longer in office so it must be something Biden's doing or saying
that's making people punch Asians. It's a Biden-era problem.
The only TV station that's talking about Trump is the TV station inside your
head.
Statistics don't solve problems. When they're focused on ridiculous topics, like "which color does covid affect more," they cause probl
In fact, they do help solve problems. LOTS of problems. They help us mod the world around us.
Without context, statistics are pretty useless. I suspect that is what Aaron is getting at. Knowing that it affects a particular group more because they are also more likely to be in other dietary or disease
groups *is* useful.
Statistics help the media divide people by color, so I guess you right.
You're maligning an entire branch of mathematics because you don't li one application.
I don't like statistics in the media because they are misleading.
Statistics for investment purposes are ok.
Statistics don't solve problems. When they're focused on ridiculous
topics, like "which color does covid affect more," they cause problems.
In fact, they do help solve problems. LOTS of problems. They help us model
the world around us.
Without context, statistics are pretty useless.
I suspect that is what Aaron is getting at.
Knowing that it affects a particular group more because
they are also more likely to be in other dietary or disease groups *is* useful.
Trump's no longer in office so it must be something Biden's doing or saying
that's making people punch Asians. It's a Biden-era problem.
Quit dreaming. Trump has been spewing hate before, during, and
after his one and only term in office.
doing orTrump's no longer in office so it must be something Biden's
saying
that's making people punch Asians. It's a Biden-era problem.
Quit dreaming. Trump has been spewing hate before, during, and
after his one and only term in office.
I never heard Trump say anything bad about asian people other than China's government. And I second everything he said about them.
I never heard Trump say anything bad about asian people other than China's government. And I second everything he said about them.
Without context, statistics are pretty useless. I suspect that is what Aaron is getting at. Knowing that it affects a particular group more because they are also more likely to be in other dietary or disease groups *is* useful.
True. But even without that additional context, it's not false or nonsensical.
I never heard Trump say anything bad about asian people other than Ch government. And I second everything he said about them.
Say wha'? You never heard of "the Chinese Virus"?
How soon you forget. Trump had a tendency of calling COVID-19 the "Chy-Na" Virus, removing articles from sentences to sound like broken English, etc,. or even calling it the "Kung Flu".
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