• New beginnings

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Monday, October 12, 2020 17:42:14
    The federal government needs to be prompt and professional with their policies. That hasn't been the case. Are either the impeachment team or the squad ready to negotiate with conservative voters? Democrats have many votes to gain if they ever decide to turn their lives around. (Not mine, but many for sure.)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, October 12, 2020 15:37:44
    The federal government needs to be prompt and professional with their policies. That hasn't been the case.

    No it hasn't. Perhaps the next administration will be more so.

    Are either the impeachment team or the squad ready to negotiate with conservative voters?

    Impeachment team? What impeachment team?

    I understand the current potus was impeached but there is no impeachment team. There have only been three US president's impeached. That's because of the presidents actions, not because of some team.

    Democrats have many votes to gain if they ever decide to turn their lives around. (Not mine, but many for sure.

    Conservative voters will vote conservative, that's not an issue.

    I don't know if conservative voters will vote for Donald Trump. Is he a conservative or something else?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Monday, October 12, 2020 20:56:45
    No it hasn't. Perhaps the next administration will be more so.

    It's not the white house that's been unprofessional, it's congress (no legislation) and in some cases the senate (purposefully stalling or otherwise curveballing Republican initiatives) and US residents are the victims because we're paying millions of dollars in salaries for members of the federal government (this includes the white house, congress, the senate, & the
    supreme court) just to have everyone sorta act like big babies; if someone can't have it their way, then all of the USA's residents can suffer because no Democrat is willing to help the American people if it requires them to swallow their pride.

    Impeachment Team? That's Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff (members of Congress.) They were referred to as "Impeachment Managers." They can impeach if they want, but they played themselves when their Trump investigations fell short of any sort of conviction.

    When I think about some of the heart breaking issues facing the federal government, even before the virus, I wonder why didn't they couldn't solve more problems? Oh, that's because they were working as "full time Trump impeachment managers" while suckers like me were waiting around on changes that we've been asking for all along but never get.

    Trump's done more than his share. His heart is clearly in the right place.
    But if anyone from the Blue team helps America by colluding with the Reds, they will face heavy scrutiny in their liberal re-election campaign. So, it's better to let Americans suffer and be ripped-off than to risk a false move
    for a career politician.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, October 12, 2020 23:32:36
    It's not the white house that's been unprofessional, it's congress (no legislation) and in some cases the senate (purposefully stalling or otherwise curveballing Republican initiatives) and US residents are the victims because we're paying millions of dollars in salaries for members of the federal government (this includes the white house, congress, the senate, & the supreme court) just to have everyone sorta act like big babies; if someone
    can't have it their way, then all of the USA's residents can suffer because no >Democrat is willing to help the American people if it requires them to swallow
    their pride.

    That's a human weakness that affects Democrats and Republicans alike. The failure of the heros act or whatever it's called is a republican failure. They all want it (they say) but can't agree among themselves to get it done.

    Impeachment Team? That's Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff (members of Congress.) They were referred to as "Impeachment Managers." They can impeach if they
    want, but they played themselves when their Trump investigations fell short of
    any sort of conviction.

    The Democrats had no choice but to impeach. Of course Republicans said they would not convict so we all knew beforehand what the outcome would be. The Democrats did their part.

    When I think about some of the heart breaking issues facing the federal government, even before the virus, I wonder why didn't they couldn't solve more problems? Oh, that's because they were working as "full time Trump impeachment managers" while suckers like me were waiting around on changes that we've been asking for all along but never get.

    It's too bad the senate didn't hold an actual trial with witnesses. Then Trump would have been convicted or acquitted but that didn't happen.

    I guess that's what passes for law and order today.

    Trump's done more than his share. His heart is clearly in the right place.

    It might be actually. I don't think Trump went into this with the intention of busting things up as he has, he just doesn't know better and he takes advice from no one.

    But if anyone from the Blue team helps America by colluding with the Reds, they will face heavy scrutiny in their liberal re-election campaign. So, it's better to let Americans suffer and be ripped-off than to risk a false move for a career politician.

    There has always been democrat/republican, left/right or red/blue and there always will be. It's important to have people who can work together. There is nothing wrong with being conservative and there is nothing wrong with being progrssive. It might take a little give and take but I don't think that is so hard.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 10:10:44
    It's too bad the senate didn't hold an actual trial with witnesses. Then Tr would have been convicted or acquitted but that didn't happen.

    When we want drama, we watch The Young & The Restless.

    There has always been democrat/republican, left/right or red/blue and there always will be. It's important to have people who can work together. There

    You are correct. That's why it irritates me when people say "Trump has caused division in this country." He didn't divide anyone, we've been divided since day 1, and it seems like the Democrats are still angry about their loss of employees after the Civil War.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 15:11:14
    It's too bad the senate didn't hold an actual trial with witnesses. Then Tr >> would have been convicted or acquitted but that didn't happen.

    When we want drama, we watch The Young & The Restless.

    When someone is charged with a crime there needs to be a trial and witnesses.

    Watching what goes on in the Trump administration is like watching reality TV. Don't get me wrong, it's great entertainment.

    You are correct. That's why it irritates me when people say "Trump has caused division in this country." He didn't divide anyone, we've been divided since day 1, and it seems like the Democrats are still angry about their loss of employees after the Civil War.

    Trump has caused excessive division. Trump never recognized the current unrest as a civil right issue. Instead of addressing that issue he institues a secret police to put it down.

    He's created division in the election process also saying that the only way he can loose the election is if it is rigged. In fact the only way he (or anyone) can loose the election is if the people choose otherwise and they might.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 09:35:20
    Trump has caused excessive division. Trump never recognized the current unr as a civil right issue. Instead of addressing that issue he institues a sec police to put it down.

    We have bigger problems to deal with aside from some whiny liberals with nothing better to do than to play around with gasoline & lighters. If those green haired geeks want a political problem addressed, they can take it up with their state's representatives. But that's not as much fun as acting like homeless maniacs. They need to make sure that they rub everyone's noses in their own diarhea.

    I got issues in my locality. I have cops giving appearance tickets to accused bank robbers and murderers. I'm very angry about it, but I don't have the time to dye my hair green, occupy a street, or burn a Target down. I do have time to complain about it to my representatives, which I've done already, and they can fix my problem if they want to, but I'm not going to hold their city hostage until I get my way; those are the people who need to be removed by force.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 14:36:12
    We have bigger problems to deal with

    You sure do.

    aside from some whiny liberals with nothing better to do than to play around with gasoline & lighters.

    At some point your going to have to get to the real issues that are very much upon you as we speak. Much bigger problems than "whiny liberals".

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 20:15:20
    At some point your going to have to get to the real issues that are very mu upon you as we speak. Much bigger problems than "whiny liberals".

    That's part of why I'm so thankful for President Trump. He is very popular among people who are very popular with me. I feel bad for our Democrat freinds though, because they had a slight chance of defeating Trump with one of their puppets, but they messed up and picked Joe despite their party chosing Sanders. It would suck to be a Democrat voter.

    Now we all have no choice but to watch Trump destroy Biden in the polls, and it's sad. If I was a champion boxer, it would break my heart to put some whoopin on the weaker guys.

    Like Mike Pence said, "We disagree in policy, but at the end of the day, we respect each other as human beings."

    We all saw Biden's long face when Trump killed him in the first debate; it was priceless. But now I feel like we're kicking a man when he's down mentally, and I don't want that, but we've got no choice but to move forward.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 18:08:58
    At some point your going to have to get to the real issues that are very mu >> upon you as we speak. Much bigger problems than "whiny liberals".

    That's part of why I'm so thankful for President Trump.

    I understand you are Trump supporter.

    He is very popular among people who are very popular with me. I feel bad for our Democrat freinds though, because they had a slight chance of defeating Trump with one of their puppets, but they messed up and picked Joe despite their party chosing Sanders. It would suck to be a Democrat voter.

    Trump is popular, he always had a following.

    I never really liked or disliked Trump but I had no idea of the carnage he would cause along with his enablers. After the things I have seen and heard over the last four years I don't support him for president.

    It's still the same for me. I still don't hate Trump but I hate what he has done and continues to do.

    Now we all have no choice but to watch Trump destroy Biden in the polls, and it's sad. If I was a champion boxer, it would break my heart to put some whoopin on the weaker guys.

    Trump did not destroy Biden in the debate or the polls. Trump was never a very popular president (aside from that following). I think he's lost the light from his star at this point. We'll see soon enough if he has enough star power left to get another term.

    Like Mike Pence said, "We disagree in policy, but at the end of the day, we respect each other as human beings."

    There was a time when that was true. It seems those days are gone.

    We all saw Biden's long face when Trump killed him in the first debate; it was
    priceless. But now I feel like we're kicking a man when he's down mentally, and I don't want that, but we've got no choice but to move forward.

    A good argument as always.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:32:46
    I never really liked or disliked Trump but I had no idea of the carnage he would cause along with his enablers. After the things I have seen and heard over the last four years I don't support him for president.

    US Presidents are over-rated. They have more executive power, but not more brain power than other elected officials. The only thing that we can rely on
    a president for, on a daily basis, is to vote with their party. Trump's been doing that, so I can't complain about him.

    When did hating Trump become mandatory in the liberal world? We didn't see so much negativity towards the Bush administration. Was that because Bush was a generic career politician who winged it in a way that was comfortable for Democrats? Or is this all because Trump's commitment to the USA makes his predecessors look like garbage? And guys like Obama have nothing better to do than to care about their image?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, October 15, 2020 14:44:02
    I never really liked or disliked Trump but I had no idea of the carnage he >> would cause along with his enablers. After the things I have seen and heard >> over the last four years I don't support him for president.

    US Presidents are over-rated. They have more executive power, but not more brain power than other elected officials.

    Presidents have powers other than executive powers. They are the leader of your country in times of war and peace and have a great influence on the success or failure on your country as a whole.

    The only thing that we can rely on a president for, on a daily basis, is to vote with their party. Trump's been doing that, so I can't complain about him.

    I would vote for the person with a good plan and record regardless of party lines. A democrat/republican has the abilty to come up with good ways to move forward, also backward.

    I don't think republicans are an enemy. I know they are conservative. No problem, I can work with a person like that. I don't think democrats are an enemy. I know they are liberal. No problem I can work with a person like that. There is strength in diversity.

    When did hating Trump become mandatory in the liberal world?

    It's not about hating trump, it never was. The results of Trump's policies and doings are clearly evident at this point. Trump has alienated both conservatives and liberals at this point. The only thing Trump has going for him is his base.

    We didn't see so much negativity towards the Bush administration. Was that because Bush was a generic career politician who winged it in a way that was comfortable for Democrats? Or is this all because Trump's commitment to the USA makes his predecessors look like garbage? And guys like Obama have nothing better to do than to care about their image?

    We always hope that "our guy" will get the seat, don't we?

    The important thing is that we have a free and fair election. The USA has been doing that for years and years. Now we have a president who says the only way he can loose is if it's rigged. That's yet another lie Donald Trump has told. The only way to win an election is to get more votes, and in the USA also win the electoral college and whoever that is will be installed as president.

    This idea that it is a rigged election is telling. I don't ever recall a president at the podium telling people if he loses it rigged.

    It is my hope that elected officials of all sorts will vote with their heart and mind above party lines.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, October 15, 2020 18:45:28
    Presidents have powers other than executive powers. They are the leader of your country in times of war and peace and have a great influence on the success or failure on your country as a whole.

    We're lucky to have avoided new wars with Trump. Trump is tough on Iran, with good reason. But despite his tough stance, you don't see the USA at war with Iran. Are the Democrats who account for missing pieces of Joe Biden's brain going to be able to effectively handle threats and make it look like Joe's calling the shots?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, October 15, 2020 16:18:06
    We're lucky to have avoided new wars with Trump.

    Is it luck?

    Trump is tough on Iran, with good reason. But despite his tough stance, you don't see the USA at war with Iran.

    Why would Trump attack a small country like Iran?

    Are the Democrats who account for missing pieces of Joe Biden's brain
    going to be able to effectively handle threats and make it look like Joe's calling the shots?

    Is Trump going to be able to handle countries like China or Russia? He takes Putin's word over the CIA and FBI.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, October 17, 2020 02:19:14
    Hello Alan,

    I never really liked or disliked Trump but I had no idea of the carnage he
    would cause along with his enablers. After the things I have seen and
    heard
    over the last four years I don't support him for president.

    US Presidents are over-rated. They have more executive power, but not more
    brain power than other elected officials.

    Presidents have powers other than executive powers. They are the leader of your country in times of war and peace and have a great influence on the success or failure on your country as a whole.

    One finger to press the big red button is all he needs.
    He needs permission from nobody to press the button.
    And I mean nobody.
    His security detail carries the nuclear football around
    with them so he can press the big red button anytime he wants.
    And nobody can stop him from doing so.

    Not even Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong-un have that kind of power.
    Well, maybe Kim Jong-un. But his rockets can only go so far.

    We have a madman in the WH today. Not just a madman, but one
    who is incompetent. But which would you prefer - a crazy man in
    the WH or a stupid man in the WH? I honestly do not know which
    one would be worse.

    Maybe one who is a combination of both?

    --Lee

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