• Happy Thanksgiving

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Saturday, November 21, 2020 13:06:33
    "I got mine, fuck you I don't care if you die."

    That is the message Donald Trump is telling the American people.
    No need to wear a mask. No need to stay home and miss out on being
    with extended family for a huge Thanksgiving feast. Go ahead and
    enjoy life's blessings, and celebrate. It is the American way!

    Source: ABC News

    The Trump White House on Wednesday tried to make Thanksgiving a new
    political flashpoint, calling new restrictions recommended by health
    experts and governors "Orwellian."

    As COVID-19 spikes dramatically across the country and Americans
    struggle to decide how many family members should gather, or whether
    to do so at all, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said
    leaving it to individuals how to deal with the virus was "the American
    way."

    McEnany made the comments when asked on "Fox and Friends" about
    "suggestions and guidelines" from experts, governors and even top administration officials that people not gather in large groups
    for the holiday.

    "A lot of the guidelines you're seeing are Orwellian," said McEnany,
    who contracted COVID-19 in October as part of a larger outbreak at
    the White House. "We don't lose our freedom in this country. We make responsible health decisions as individuals."

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, November 21, 2020 08:37:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to All <=-

    The Trump White House on Wednesday tried to make Thanksgiving a new political flashpoint, calling new restrictions recommended by health experts and governors "Orwellian."

    $10 says that no government employee with the last name Trump,
    Kushner or McEnany has ever read 1984.




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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Sunday, November 22, 2020 05:50:12
    Hello Kurt,

    The Trump White House on Wednesday tried to make Thanksgiving a new
    political flashpoint, calling new restrictions recommended by health
    experts and governors "Orwellian."

    $10 says that no government employee with the last name Trump,
    Kushner or McEnany has ever read 1984.

    Melania Trump admitted Donald Trump has read "Mein Kampf".
    And also Benito Mussolini's manifesto. Shouldn't that be enough
    to qualify him as a bona fide fascist?

    Meanwhile, his children are still learning how to draw pictures
    with crayons. I wouldn't worry about them too much.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, November 23, 2020 11:52:47
    Melania Trump admitted Donald Trump has read "Mein Kampf".
    And also Benito Mussolini's manifesto. Shouldn't that be enough
    to qualify him as a bona fide fascist?

    I read "The Spirit of Capitalism." Does that make me a fascist?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Monday, November 23, 2020 16:43:00
    Melania Trump admitted Donald Trump has read "Mein Kampf".
    And also Benito Mussolini's manifesto. Shouldn't that be enough
    to qualify him as a bona fide fascist?

    Isn't learning about things that you don't agree with one of the parts of a proper education? Or are you not so pro-education as you are acting to be?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58:05
    Hello Aaron,

    Melania Trump admitted Donald Trump has read "Mein Kampf".
    And also Benito Mussolini's manifesto. Shouldn't that be enough
    to qualify him as a bona fide fascist?

    I read "The Spirit of Capitalism." Does that make me a fascist?

    What is capital? Frozen labor.

    Now tell me how to unfreeze that frozen labor.

    --Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:31:00
    Mike Powell wrote to LEE LOFASO <=-

    Isn't learning about things that you don't agree with one of the parts
    of a proper education? Or are you not so pro-education as you are
    acting to be?

    To Lee, "education" actually means "indoctrination".


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 11:50:19
    What is capital? Frozen labor.

    Now tell me how to unfreeze that frozen labor.

    I don't get it. The Nixon freeze?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON LAUZON on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 14:28:00
    Isn't learning about things that you don't agree with one of the parts of a proper education? Or are you not so pro-education as you are acting to be?

    To Lee, "education" actually means "indoctrination".

    I have picked up on that, from him and one or two others here.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron Lauzon on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 03:05:23
    Hello Ron,

    Isn't learning about things that you don't agree with one of the parts
    of a proper education? Or are you not so pro-education as you are
    acting to be?

    To Lee, "education" actually means "indoctrination".

    We don't need no education! We don't need no thought control!
    Hey! Teacher! Leave those kids alone!

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 03:06:06
    Hello Aaron,

    What is capital? Frozen labor.

    Now tell me how to unfreeze that frozen labor.

    I don't get it. The Nixon freeze?

    Wage and price controls did not work. The economy failed
    to do what Nixon wanted. And then he resigned from office
    in disgrace claiming "I am not a crook!"

    Which explains why Gerald Ford granted him a presidential
    pardon afterwards - for all crimes committed.

    Jimmy Carter put an end to the failed economic policies
    of the Nixon/Ford administration, allowing the economy to
    take off through the roof. No more wage/price controls.
    Competition was back in style. The people could make money
    again. And spend and spend and spend ...

    But hey. That was then. This is now. With a new president
    about to take the helm. Just like that peanut farmer from
    Georgia. First thing Biden will do is raise the minimum
    wage to $15 an hour. And then we the people will again be
    able to spend and spend and spend ...

    I think he will skip the part about pardoning Trump.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 22:14:06
    Jimmy Carter put an end to the failed economic policies
    of the Nixon/Ford administration, allowing the economy to
    take off through the roof. No more wage/price controls.

    What wage/price controls? I wasn't around for all that, sorry, I don't have any knowledge of this subject.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 14:55:21
    Hello Mike,

    Isn't learning about things that you don't agree with one of the parts
    of a proper education? Or are you not so pro-education as you are
    acting to be?

    To Lee, "education" actually means "indoctrination".

    I have picked up on that, from him and one or two others here.

    This is from NBC -

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump accused schools of teaching
    students “hateful lies about this country” and said he would be taking steps to “restore patriotic education” as he continued his opposition
    to efforts to raise awareness about racial inequalities.

    Speaking at what the White House described as a “conference on American history,” Trump said that he plans to sign an executive order soon to
    create a “national commission to support patriotic education” called
    the 1776 Commission and that he is directing funding to create a
    patriotic curriculum for schools.

    “Our youth will be taught to love America with all of their heart and
    all of their souls,” Trump said. The White House declined to say when
    Trump would sign the executive order.

    End quote.

    This is white nationalism. Plain and simple. David Duke would love it.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 10:45:05
    ***Our youth will be taught to love America with all of their heart and
    all of their souls,*** Trump said. The White House declined to say when Trump would sign the executive order.

    End quote.

    This is white nationalism. Plain and simple. David Duke would love it.

    Sounds like nationalism to me, without any color being added.

    The election is over; you don't need to add color to stuff where it doesn't go anymore. Black lives don't matter anymore until 2024. And rest assured, Joe is "gonna have em all votin Democrat!"

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 12:00:00
    Jimmy Carter put an end to the failed economic policies
    of the Nixon/Ford administration, allowing the economy to
    take off through the roof. No more wage/price controls.

    What wage/price controls? I wasn't around for all that, sorry, I don't have any knowledge of this subject.

    He is pulling your leg. Look up stagflation to read about the results of
    the Carter economic policies. Granted, he did not inherit the greatest
    economy to begin with, but Lee's blaming that on the Nixon/Ford
    administrations does not tell the whole story. The problem started under Johnson, whose Vietnam War overspending really hurt the US economy (except the war industry). Policies of the Federal Reserve during Johnson's
    administration also did not help.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 23:43:24
    Hello Aaron,

    Jimmy Carter put an end to the failed economic policies
    of the Nixon/Ford administration, allowing the economy to
    take off through the roof. No more wage/price controls.

    What wage/price controls? I wasn't around for all that, sorry, I don't have
    any knowledge of this subject.

    Nixon imposed wage/price controls as his means of controlling
    inflation. Ford continued that mad policy. Carter ended it.
    He also deregulated the price of oil and gas, allowing supply
    and demand.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 19:53:08
    war industry). Policies of the Federal Reserve during Johnson's administration also did not help.

    I'll bet! Johnson doesn't seem like he was a very helpful guy at all.

    To give LBJ some credit, his awful racist quote is mild compared to all the stuff that spews from Joe Biden's mouth.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 20:37:46
    Nixon imposed wage/price controls as his means of controlling
    inflation. Ford continued that mad policy. Carter ended it.

    Maybe Nixon was trying to do a good thing but under bad advice? What was your impression of his advisers?

    He also deregulated the price of oil and gas, allowing supply
    and demand.

    To me, that sounds like he was just trying to cancel the previous administration, which is foolish because it will hurt any re-election.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, November 26, 2020 04:06:40
    Hello Aaron,

    ***Our youth will be taught to love America with all of their heart and
    all of their souls,*** Trump said. The White House declined to say when
    Trump would sign the executive order.

    End quote.

    This is white nationalism. Plain and simple. David Duke would love it.

    Sounds like nationalism to me, without any color being added.

    It was white nationalism. As reported by NBC News.

    The election is over; you don't need to add color to stuff where it doesn't
    go anymore.

    David Duke is still a racist, regardless of whether he is wearing
    a white sheet with hood or a business suit.

    Black lives don't matter anymore until 2024.

    Black lives will always matter. White lives will always matter.
    Brown lives will always matter. Yellow lives will always matter.
    Red lives will always matter. So why wait?

    Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. reminded folks there is no difference
    between a white racist and a black racist. Both are two sides of the
    same coin.

    And rest assured, Joe is "gonna have em all votin Democrat!"

    Including former Republicans. Which could be loads of fun.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Thursday, November 26, 2020 04:07:03
    Hello Mike,

    Jimmy Carter put an end to the failed economic policies
    of the Nixon/Ford administration, allowing the economy to
    take off through the roof. No more wage/price controls.

    What wage/price controls? I wasn't around for all that, sorry, I don't have
    any knowledge of this subject.

    He is pulling your leg. Look up stagflation to read about the results of the Carter economic policies. Granted, he did not inherit the greatest economy to begin with, but Lee's blaming that on the Nixon/Ford administrations does not tell the whole story. The problem started under Johnson, whose Vietnam War overspending really hurt the US economy (except the war industry). Policies of the Federal Reserve during Johnson's administration also did not help.

    "LBJ! LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?"

    That was a popular chant on college campuses back in those days.

    All wars are destructive and affect the economy. And never for the
    better. However, the conflict in Vietnam was over when LBJ left office,
    with the two sides having finally reached agreement. The only thing
    left needing to done being for both sides to sign the peace deal.

    However, as Nixon took office he decided not to sign it, his stated
    reason being he wanted "peace with honor."

    So what was the result?

    Nixon chose to continue the conflict for an additional five years,
    at a cost of tens of thousands more American lives, plus only god
    knows how many hundreds of thousands of more Vietnamese lives. Then
    Nixon decided to sign the same peace deal that LBJ and his Vietnamese counterpart had agreed to, thus bringing the conflict to an end.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, November 26, 2020 17:22:25
    Hello Aaron,

    Nixon imposed wage/price controls as his means of controlling
    inflation. Ford continued that mad policy. Carter ended it.

    Maybe Nixon was trying to do a good thing but under bad advice? What was your impression of his advisers?

    Most of them were crooks. Some of them were even convicted and
    had to do time. The only good thing I can say about Nixon is that
    unlike Trump he did not pardon all of them.

    He also deregulated the price of oil and gas, allowing supply
    and demand.

    To me, that sounds like he was just trying to cancel the previous administration, which is foolish because it will hurt any re-election.

    Gerald Ford granted Richard Nixon a presidential pardon.
    Jimmy Carter did not grant Gerald Ford the same favor.
    And I seriously doubt Joe Biden will grant Donald Trump
    a pardon of any kind.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:07:30
    It was white nationalism. As reported by NBC News.

    I'm surprised that NBC news still wants to stoke racial tensions even after the election outcome.

    Why do we want to keep blacks hating whites? Just for Joe's re-election? Is
    it worth it?

    Black lives will always matter. White lives will always matter.
    Brown lives will always matter. Yellow lives will always matter.
    Red lives will always matter. So why wait?

    We wait until election year so that we can trick blacks into voting for segregationists like Joe Biden.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, November 27, 2020 05:16:16
    Hello Aaron,

    It was white nationalism. As reported by NBC News.

    I'm surprised that NBC news still wants to stoke racial tensions even after
    the election outcome.

    Trump said what he said. NBC News merely reported it.

    Why do we want to keep blacks hating whites?

    I have no idea what was going through Trump's mind when he said
    what he said. I still have no idea why he said what he said. But
    he did say what he said, as reported by NBC News.

    Just for Joe's re-election? Is it worth it?

    A clip of what Trump said might be used for Joe's re-election.
    But since Trump will not run for any future political office, it
    is doubtful any candidate will use it.

    Black lives will always matter. White lives will always matter.
    Brown lives will always matter. Yellow lives will always matter.
    Red lives will always matter. So why wait?

    We wait until election year so that we can trick blacks into voting for segregationists like Joe Biden.

    Oh, come now. Nobody voted for Joe Biden. It was Kamala Harris
    who got all the votes. Everybody knows that.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, November 27, 2020 09:10:47
    It was white nationalism. As reported by NBC News.

    I'm surprised that NBC news still wants to stoke racial tensions even
    after
    the election outcome.

    Trump said what he said. NBC News merely reported it.

    They finally decided to report something Trump said and they went with that?

    We wait until election year so that we can trick blacks into voting fo segregationists like Joe Biden.

    Oh, come now. Nobody voted for Joe Biden. It was Kamala Harris

    who got all the votes. Everybody knows that.

    That makes no sense. She's gonna play almost no role in the administration. She's just being used as a token, and they only got that 1/2 right. The voters voted against Kamala in the primary, but now they're pretending that they wanted her all along? Backwards! And what did she offer as a senator besides rejection of all things conservative? And what did she do or say in the primary? "Reparations for ALL Americans" (whatever that means) is ridiculous. It's a gratuitous handout message for the cows. The hay is ready.

    What's good about Kamala besides her being a Democrat, female-ish, & black-ish?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, November 28, 2020 20:24:14
    Hello Aaron,

    It was white nationalism. As reported by NBC News.

    I'm surprised that NBC news still wants to stoke racial tensions
    even
    after
    the election outcome.

    Trump said what he said. NBC News merely reported it.

    They finally decided to report something Trump said and they went with that?

    Trump has a big mouth. Tiny hands, but a big mouth.

    We wait until election year so that we can trick blacks into voting
    fo
    segregationists like Joe Biden.

    Oh, come now. Nobody voted for Joe Biden. It was Kamala Harris

    who got all the votes. Everybody knows that.

    That makes no sense.

    The only blacks who voted for Trump did so by mistake.
    The only whites who voted for Biden were color blind.
    See how that works?
    Everybody voted for Harris.

    She's gonna play almost no role in the administration.

    She is going to be very busy preparing for her own administration.

    She's just being used as a token, and they only got that 1/2 right.

    When she adds her Indian part to her Black part then she will have
    her whole enchilada.

    The voters voted against Kamala in the primary, but now they're pretending that they wanted her all along? Backwards!

    Joe knows who he wanted on his ticket from day one. The one who
    would win the election for him. And so she did.

    And what did she offer as a senator besides rejection of all things conservative?

    Everything.

    And what did she do or say in the primary?

    Whatever she wanted to say.

    "Reparations for ALL Americans" (whatever that means) is ridiculous.
    It's a gratuitous handout message for the cows. The hay is ready.

    $2000 a month. Every month. With no strings attached. I like that.

    What's good about Kamala besides her being a Democrat, female-ish, & black-ish?

    Free money.
    Free love.
    Free everything.
    I mean, what is there not to like?

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, November 28, 2020 22:04:09
    Everybody voted for Harris.

    She is nobody to America. The people who voted for her in the primary, she let them down bigtime. Her campaign was weak as hell. If they voted for her in the primary, and they got Joe Biden in the long run, they are at a loss.

    The other problem with this statement is that VPs are useless. Voting for a VP? I've never cared who someone's VP was. I suspect that you're trying to sound politically correct by saying it was important to you "to get a blackish female for vice president." Electing a blackish female-ish VP is going to end slavery once and for all right?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sunday, November 29, 2020 11:57:00
    The other problem with this statement is that VPs are useless. Voting for a VP? I've never cared who someone's VP was. I suspect that you're trying to sound politically correct by saying it was important to you "to get a blackish
    female for vice president." Electing a blackish female-ish VP is going to end slavery once and for all right?

    They are not useless if the senate gets split 50-50.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Sunday, November 29, 2020 22:36:13
    They are not useless if the senate gets split 50-50.

    What happens with the VP in that scenario?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Monday, November 30, 2020 15:40:00
    They are not useless if the senate gets split 50-50.

    What happens with the VP in that scenario?

    The VP then gets to cast the deciding vote.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Monday, November 30, 2020 20:17:55
    They are not useless if the senate gets split 50-50.

    What happens with the VP in that scenario?

    The VP then gets to cast the deciding vote.

    That sounds awful. I wonder what is the worst that can happen if the entire federal government is run by Democrats?

    When was the last time they had so much majority? Have you ever seen a VP control the senate before?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, December 01, 2020 05:36:16
    Hello Aaron,

    They are not useless if the senate gets split 50-50.

    What happens with the VP in that scenario?

    AS president of the Senate she gets to vote to break the tie.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, December 01, 2020 23:36:50
    Hello Aaron,

    They are not useless if the senate gets split 50-50.

    What happens with the VP in that scenario?

    The VP then gets to cast the deciding vote.

    That sounds awful.

    Shame on you! That is totally un-American!

    Article I, Section 3.

    The Vice President of the United States shall be President
    of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally
    divided.

    I wonder what is the worst that can happen if the entire
    federal government is run by Democrats?

    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".

    When was the last time they had so much majority?

    2009-2010, Obama's first two years in office. Only in rare
    cases was it necessary for the VP to serve as President of the
    Senate, as the Senate passed most legislation by wide margins.
    Then came the shellacking, when Democrats lost control of the
    Senate, and the House.

    Have you ever seen a VP control the senate before?

    Many times.
    Al Gore did when Bill Clinton was presdent.
    Dick Cheney did when GWB was president.
    Joe Biden did when Barack Obama was president.
    Mike Pence did when outgoing Donald Trump was president.
    Kamala Harris will be when Joe Biden is president.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, December 01, 2020 18:29:51
    I wonder what is the worst that can happen if the entire
    federal government is run by Democrats?

    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".

    I think you've got that right. But I don't want brainwashed people to be
    happy just because they've appeased the liberal media gods.

    What's in it for the middle class?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 13:45:18
    Hello Aaron,

    I wonder what is the worst that can happen if the entire
    federal government is run by Democrats?

    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".

    I think you've got that right. But I don't want brainwashed people to be happy just because they've appeased the liberal media gods.

    What's in it for the middle class?

    What middle class?

    --Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, December 02, 2020 17:27:00
    What's in it for the middle class?

    Find a good history/economics book that describes the USA during the period
    of 1977 through the end of 1980 that is not written by a politician.

    The short answer is "not a whole damn lot."


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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, December 07, 2020 12:27:39
    Hello Aaron,

    I wonder what is the worst that can happen if the entire
    federal government is run by Democrats?

    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".

    I think you've got that right. But I don't want brainwashed people to be
    happy just because they've appeased the liberal media gods.

    What's in it for the middle class?

    What middle class?

    --Lee

    Rich enough to have health insurance, poor enough not to have a private jet.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Joacim Melin on Tuesday, December 08, 2020 01:06:53
    Hello Joacim,

    I wonder what is the worst that can happen if the entire
    federal government is run by Democrats?

    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".

    I think you've got that right. But I don't want brainwashed people to
    be
    happy just because they've appeased the liberal media gods.

    What's in it for the middle class?

    What middle class?

    Rich enough to have health insurance,

    All insurance is scam. Access to quality health care is the first
    of all human rights. What we have is not health insurance, but death
    insurance.

    poor enough not to have a private jet.

    Mike Tyson - before he was discovered beating up punks in the
    neighborhood.

    --Lee

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, December 12, 2020 01:50:00
    On 12-01-20, AARON THOMAS said to LEE LOFASO:


    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".


    I think you've got that right. But I don't want brainwashed people to be AT>happy just because they've appeased the liberal media gods.


    The only ones who will be singing that will be the democrats. And if they
    steal the Georgia senate races, four years from now it will no longer be a
    free America.


    What's in it for the middle class?


    Nothing. The only ones who will benifit from this democrat rule will be top deocrats and their deep-state combine.


    Somewhere along the line in the next four years of democrat rule, look for vote-by-mail to become set in stone.


    This past election proved a communist-tyranical adage; `All that matters is
    who counts the votes!'


    The cheating wasn't even on the quiet. It was done openly. Enough illegality and underhandedness took place in this last election that even a blind man could tell.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to TIM RICHARDSON on Saturday, December 12, 2020 22:56:58
    Hello Tim,

    Everybody in America will be singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".

    I think you've got that right. But I don't want brainwashed people to be >AT>happy just because they've appeased the liberal media gods.

    The only ones who will be singing that will be the democrats. And if they >steal the Georgia senate races, four years from now it will no longer be a >free America.

    Back in the days of FDR everybody listened to the radio.
    And also sang along to whatever tune was playing.
    And FDR sang a very good tune.

    What's in it for the middle class?

    Nothing. The only ones who will benifit from this democrat rule will be top
    deocrats and their deep-state combine.

    Along with the vast majority of Americans.

    Somewhere along the line in the next four years of democrat rule, look for
    vote-by-mail to become set in stone.

    And vote online. And vote by iphone. And vote by all other means
    of convenience. The more choices people have, the more people will
    vote. The more people vote, the more freedom will ring. See how
    that works?

    This past election proved a communist-tyranical adage; `All that matters is
    who counts the votes!'

    Are you calling Mike Pence a communist?

    According to the 12th Amendment, it is the vice president who is
    to count the votes.

    The cheating wasn't even on the quiet. It was done openly. Enough illegality
    and underhandedness took place in this last election that even a blind man could tell.

    Are you saying that Mike Pence is blind? Oh. He does not have to
    count the votes right now. He can wait until the Congress convenes
    on January 5 to do that.

    --Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Tim Richardson on Sunday, December 13, 2020 00:29:06
    On 12-12-20 01:50, Tim Richardson <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: Happy Thanksgiving <=-

    The only ones who will be singing that will be the democrats. And if
    they steal the Georgia senate races, four years from now it will no
    longer be a free America.

    No one will steal any election. The people vote. The votes are
    counted. The person with the most votes wins. Simple.

    It is the Trump machinery that is trying to make it not a free America
    with its efforts to overturn the vote of the people.

    Somewhere along the line in the next four years of democrat rule, look
    for vote-by-mail to become set in stone.

    That would not be a bad thing. There are states where it is the only
    method of voting now. It is secure. Walk up voting is no more secure.

    The cheating wasn't even on the quiet. It was done openly. Enough illegality and underhandedness took place in this last election that
    even a blind man could tell.

    Show us the evidence? With all of the law suites filed by Trump and his cronies, they have given no evidence and essentially been laughed out of
    court.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Monday, December 14, 2020 03:00:12
    Hello Dale,

    The only ones who will be singing that will be the democrats. And if >TR>they steal the Georgia senate races, four years from now it will no >TR>longer be a free America.

    No one will steal any election.

    It has happened before.

    Hayes stole it from Tilden.
    GWB stole it from Gore.
    So why not Trump stealing it from Biden?

    Gore v Bush.
    5-4 in favor of GWB by the USSC.
    Closest vote in US history.

    The USSC did not even bother
    in deciding between Hayes and Tilden.

    The people vote.

    9 justices of the USSC. Nobody else's vote counted.
    That's how it went in Gore v. Bush.
    Sure, Gore said he did not agree with the decision.
    But he accepted it, "for the good of the country."

    See how that works?
    The people's vote does not matter.
    Never did. Never will.

    The votes are counted.

    5-4 was the count.

    The person with the most votes wins.

    GWB got 5 votes. Gore got 4 votes.

    Simple.

    As counted by the 9 justices of the US Supreme Court.

    It is the Trump machinery that is trying to make it not a free America
    with its efforts to overturn the vote of the people.

    You are forgetting about one thing. Somebody has to count the vote.
    And we all know who that person is.

    Somewhere along the line in the next four years of democrat rule, look >TR>for vote-by-mail to become set in stone.

    That would not be a bad thing. There are states where it is the only
    method of voting now. It is secure. Walk up voting is no more secure.

    None of that matters. It is not the votes that counts, but who
    counts the votes. You should have learned that by now. Gore did.
    Even though he got more popular votes than his opponent, we all
    know who really won.

    The cheating wasn't even on the quiet. It was done openly. Enough >TR>illegality and underhandedness took place in this last election that >TR>even a blind man could tell.

    Show us the evidence?

    Trump tied to tell you, but you wouldn't listen.
    Tim is trying to tell you, but you still won't listen.
    Everybody is trying to tell you ...

    With all of the law suites filed by Trump and his cronies, they have given
    no evidence and essentially been laughed out of court.

    So what? Who cares if Trump is 0 for 50? Or whatever number of
    times he has struck out. None of that matters. It is not who votes,
    but who counts the votes. Which is exactly what Trump has been been
    trying to tell you, and everybody else.

    It is all right there in the US Constitution itself. Article 12.
    Read it. And learn the true meaning of those words ...

    https://americanmind.org/salvo/what-happens-if-no-one-wins/


    See there? The vice president counts the votes! Nobody else!
    And you know what that means! Mike Pence gets to keep his job!
    And so does The Orange Man! Don't you love it? No voter fraud
    at all! It was all a hoax! Just like Trump has said all along!

    The two authors who wrote the above article did so three weeks
    before the election. Just to let you know they were not playing
    favorites.

    Merry Christmas
    --Lee

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, December 19, 2020 01:04:00
    On 12-13-20, DALE SHIPP said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    On 12-12-20 01:50, Tim Richardson <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: Happy Thanksgiving <=-


    The only ones who will be singing that will be the democrats. And if
    they steal the Georgia senate races, four years from now it will no
    longer be a free America.


    No one will steal any election. The people vote. The votes are
    counted. The person with the most votes wins. Simple.


    The democrats have gone so far over the line they no longer even try to do their chicanery under cover. They were so encouraged by a whole list of
    leftist criminals going scott free these last five or so years they were made bold enough to commit voter fraud and unconstitutional chicanery openly.


    It is the Trump machinery that is trying to make it not a free America DS>with its efforts to overturn the vote of the people.


    I have to say that is a bald-faced leftist lie. Nobody who's been here in America these last four years could possibly NOT have seen the deomcrats throwing shit at Trump every chance they got. And every bit of it false.


    You are either blind as a bat, or deliberately stupid.


    The democrats not only chased false charges against Trump, they deliberately committed crimes to keep evidence and testimony from coming to light.


    That isn't even a point of contention. Its fact!



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