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    From Andrew@andrew@spam.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.privacy on Thursday, September 05, 2024 00:35:17
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    Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:15:49 GMT :

    FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
    re-login into your Apple ID

    FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.

    Tell us, Jolly Roger, if your 2FA is your Android phone, how are you going
    to log into your Apple ID (for the rest of your entire life!) without
    *always* (for the rest of your life!) having to carry your Android phone
    with you forever, just to log into your account, which, we've proven, Apple requires you to do frequently (which you don't notice - but it's there).

    Tell us.

    Why is it that Apple is the only common consumer operating system which requires you to have TWO devices - just to log into one of them.

    Tell us.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.privacy on Thursday, September 05, 2024 15:01:49
    From Newsgroup: alt.privacy

    On 2024-09-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote on 4 Sep 2024 22:15:49 GMT :

    FACT: There are *many* (very many!) other times Apple requires a
    re-login into your Apple ID

    FACT: None of which require 2FA since the device is already trusted.

    Tell us, Jolly Roger, if your 2FA is your Android phone, how are you
    going to log into your Apple ID (for the rest of your entire life!)
    without *always* (for the rest of your life!) having to carry your
    Android phone with you forever, just to log into your account, which,
    we've proven, Apple requires you to do frequently (which you don't
    notice - but it's there).

    Tell us.

    Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is trusted,
    which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're just showing
    how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.
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    JR
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  • From Andrew@andrew@spam.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.privacy on Sunday, September 08, 2024 17:29:45
    From Newsgroup: alt.privacy

    Jolly Roger wrote on 5 Sep 2024 15:01:49 GMT :

    Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is trusted, which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're just showing
    how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.

    Untrue Jolly Roger. Clearly you've never tried NOT logging into an Apple device. I have. And you know I have since we've covered this for years.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
    <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
    <https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
    <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins!
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login

    Apple *frequently* forces you to verify, where, in fact, you have to
    actually provide your government ID to verify in cases where you don't.

    The fact remains that Apple murdered privacy with mandatory 2FA.

    No other operating system stoops that low to demand your personal identity. Just Apple.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.privacy on Sunday, September 08, 2024 19:35:42
    From Newsgroup: alt.privacy

    On 2024-09-08, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote on 5 Sep 2024 15:01:49 GMT :

    Easily, since after the initial 2FA verification your device is
    trusted, which means subsequent logins are done without 2FA. You're
    just showing how little you know about Apple's 2FA implementation.

    Untrue Jolly Roger.

    It's true, Arlen.

    Clearly you've never tried

    Projection. Your claim that Apple constantly requires 2FA verification
    is a big, fat lie - as anyone who actually uses Apple devices knows.

    Two-factor authentication for Apple ID
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660>
    ---
    When you sign in with your Apple ID *for the first time* on a *new*
    device or on the web, you need both your password and the six-digit verification code that's automatically displayed on your trusted
    devices.
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    As is so often the case, your little lies are easily shown to be false.
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    JR
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