• Suppression of Historical Knowledge

    From Jim@George@webtv.net to alt.society.civil-disob,alt.society.civil-liberties,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.tv.popular,alt.war.civil.usa on Sunday, November 02, 2003 04:33:05
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    Suppression of Historical Knowledge

    The campaign of defamation against European Americans has included the suppression of knowledge about the invasions of Europe within historical memory, each of which had a profound and continuing impact on the shared memories and perceptions of Europeans and European Americans.

    African-based Arab, Moor & Berber Invasions

    One centuries-long series of brutal militaristic invasions was the African-based Arab, Moor, and Berber crusades and slave-takings for 700
    years in southern Europe that ended only 511 years ago with European
    liberation in 1492. Millions of Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, and Sicilian Europeans were slaughtered, enslaved, and sold at slave markets in Africa and Asia. There were no fewer than four major bloody crusades into Europe by Africans during this period, each followed by new slave-taking and massacres of indigenous European peoples. These invasions were far greater "crusades" in terms of duration, bloodshed, and oppression than all the papal-inspired crusades into southwest Asia. In fact, none of the later European excesses in Africa can rival the terror and cruelty of these
    invasions into Europe. This 700 year period of oppression and slavery is an excellent area for historical research from the point of view of the
    indigenous European peoples.

    Asian-based Mongol Invasions

    A second centuries-long series of plundering and butchering crusades was by
    the Mongols of Asia and lasted for 550 years in eastern and central Europe. Millions of Europeans were slaughtered or sold at slave markets in Asia.
    These invasions did not completely end until around 220 years ago (about the time George Washington was President of the United States) when Catherine
    the Great of Russia wiped out the Mongol-installed khanates (kingdoms) on
    the Crimean Peninsula. Dozens of European principalities and cities were destroyed by Mongol armies as they converted the populated plains and river basins of eastern and central Europe into grazing grounds for horses and cattle. This 550 year period would be an excellent area for historical
    research from the point of view of the indigenous European peoples. Unfortunately most studies are from the point of view of the cruel invaders. Europeans have never visited such horror on any Asian country before or
    since. The viciousness of the Mongol invasions is shown by the fact that
    they engaged in the first recorded biological warfare. European merchants at trading posts on the coast of the Black Sea were driven out when Mongols
    hurled dead bodies of victims of the Bubonic Plague (the "Black Death") over the trading post walls. When the traders retreated to the Italian Peninsula, the Bubonic Plague followed them and led to death by disease of up to 50% of all Europeans in the mid-1300s.



    Asian-based Turkish Invasions

    A third centuries-long series of marauding and vicious militaristic crusades into Europe was the Asian Turkish jihads and slave-takings in central Europe for 500 years that ended only about 85 years ago with the collapse of
    imperial Turkey into its present boundaries. These crusades took the Turkish empire all the way to the coast of Italy and the walls of Vienna. Millions
    of Europeans were enslaved and sold at slave auctions in north Africa and southwest Asia. This is an area that needs historical research and documentation from the point of view of the European victims. One depraved feature of the Turkish empire was an annual slave roundup throughout the
    Slavic nations and as far north as the city walls of Moscow and Warsaw.
    These were no simple, mercantile affairs like the Asian Arab slave-taking expeditions into the east coast of Africa. These were well-financed and state-run roundups of young Europeans (and the murder of their parents in
    many cases), and they lasted for 400 years. There is nothing in European conduct toward any other peoples or nations to compare with this systematic
    and centuries-long depredation of central Europeans. The Turkish crusades
    put any excesses of the papal crusades in southwest Asia in the shade.



    History of Russia
    John Lawrence
    1978 - Sixth Revised Edition
    New American Library

    The Making of Europe
    Robert Bartlett
    1993
    Princeton University Press

    The Devil's Horsemen: The Mongol Invasion of Europe
    James Chambers
    1979
    Atheneum New York

    The Mongols
    David Morgan
    1986
    Blackwell Publishers



    The Turks were major slave hunters and takers for five centuries in both
    Europe and Africa. Unfortunately, their apologists today often soften the nature of the slavery that Turks enforced, so look out for "revisionism" in
    the definition of slavery when looking at these sources. Slavery is slavery
    is slavery.

    The Ottoman Centuries: The Rise & Fall of the Turkish Empire
    Lord Kinross Morrow
    Quill Paperbacks, New York
    1977

    [The foregoing book is so allergic to exposing slavery that there is no
    mention in the index of "slavery" or even "devshirme," but both are
    discussed in the text. This book has a good bibliography, however.]

    The Ottoman Slave Trade & Its Suppression: 1840 -- 1890
    Ehud R. Toledano
    Princeton University Press, Princeton, New Jersey
    1982

    [The foregoing book breaks the Turkish slave trade into black and white concepts for the 50 years it covers. It has a large index on "slave
    dealers" and a good bibliography.]

    The Muslim Discovery of Europe
    Bernard Lewis
    W.W.Norton & Company, New York & London
    1982

    [This book does list "slavery" in its index, but tends to pooh-pooh the severity of the slavery, especially to bash slavery in the Western
    Hemisphere. It does document slave-taking from Hungary, Russia, Poland, Ukraine, Italy, Northern Spain, and France. One single voyage is reported
    to have returned to a Turkish empire port in North Africa with 12,000
    captured and enslaved persons from Europe.]

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    White Guilt (Author Unknown)



    Like so many of you, I come from the guilty White liberal left. I was beaten down so badly with White guilt, I rebelled and soon after decided to
    set my own standards. I was told I didn't have the right to speak out
    against immigration because I had White skin. When I tried to kindly address the issue, without mentioning demographics and "culture" (our word is "folkways), I was hit with the "but your hidden motive is racism" bit.



    Honestly, it was not, at the time. I had always been kept in check. I
    was a good little Whitebasher. I did my share, that is, hating and defaming
    my ancestors for "slaughtering" the Indians, enslaving Blacks, creating apartheid, etc...



    I have to make my "confessions of a former self-loather" before I go
    any further. I used to watch the TV program 'Grizzley Adams' as a child. I
    had a crush on the Indian "Nicoma." It wasn't that he was a stud or
    anything, it was my public-school and anti-White media- sponsored hatred for
    my own people which made me want to "go Indian." This is quite embarrassing, but when I was about 10, I used to drape a black towel around my head and pretend I was a noble savage, killing "the White man" in the spirit of rightousness. When I look back on this, I cringe at the shell of a person I used to be. I was where the majority of the European-American population is today, in White Zombieland.



    If I had not been attacked for opposing overpopulation in the U.S., I would still be a self-loather today. I must thank the liberals for my
    evolution and setting my spirit free.



    Something happened to me as a result of these attacks. I was told "not even think it," so naturally I began thinking it. Soon after, I sought out
    my own ancestral heritage and learned that my people have been victims of
    far worse than our establishment vultures let on. I won't get into that with you, because it is a journey every European-descended person must take on
    their own to regain their soul.



    Drawing on my experience as a self-loather, I began applying my "in retrospect" non-White activism to my own folk. I had always thought the
    Indians should not have turned on each other, rather joined together and defeated the invaders. Then a strange thing occurred. I thought of how my Scottish Clans turned their petty feuds into a bloodbath that ended their self-determination as a tribal people.



    Why had I never thought of that before, when for years I seethed with hatred over the Indian wars? MY OWN PEOPLE ended up here, or in bondage in Scotland and Ireland because they experienced the same thing the Indians
    here did. Why was I an advocate for other people's tribes?



    Here is the sad truth. While our people run around helping everyone
    but themselves and preserving every culture but their own, I have yet to see one single non-White decrying past sins or present discrimination against
    us. I have seen plenty of White fools running around in others' traditional garb, putting bones through their noses and hanging Indian dreamcatchers
    from their car mirrors. I have yet to see an Asian or African in a tartan playing the bagpipes.. If we don't preserve our heritage, who will? Not
    those who hate us, I assure you.



    I have come to understand the reality that we have given away our self-respect, our folkways, and our very right to free expression out of a misguided sense of justice. We have given up on equality, and have learned
    to accept the role assigned us by those who hate us based on very selective history they are force-fed in the public schools we pay taxes to support. We are not represented as a people because to speak for European heritage is to
    be called a racist in efforts to silence us by those who are engaed in
    tribal warfare against us. It must be nice to be a Whitebasher when you know what you say will be unopposed because of liberal tabboos. We must get over
    our fears of social ostracism and political correctness if we believe our people have anything to offer the world. The old White guilt MUST be
    replaced with a new kind. Every non-White society has a special hatred for "race traitors" and if you don't believe me, look at the heat any
    conservative Black or non-Zionist Israeli endures today.



    I learned that my White guilt should not be over what Whites have done
    to non-Whites (just as other races don't agonize over what their people have done to others in the past), but what my own kinfolk have done to their own people in the past. With the knowledge I have gained about my own history (knowledge denied to me in my own public school system), I have learned to
    feel genuine White guilt over my past anti-White activism and even guilt
    over what my kinfolk have done to their own brethren.



    In the face of incessant "daily reminders" of White sins of the past (which were commonplace amongst all races in that people), we have lost the ability to look at the good our people have done. To honor our ancestors. I
    can fill a book with all of the good we have done, and of all we have
    created. All the lives we have saved with our creations.



    We are told we instead that we should nail ourselves to the whipping
    post because of Black slavery. This, while other races revise history and
    leave out the bad things. I have news for you. We Europeans were the first
    to END slavery. Virtually all nations and tribes during the slave era were slavers, selling their own people (yes, like the African Cheiftans) into slavery because it was a commodity much the way electronics equiptment is today. Black historical record indicates that some wealthy free Blacks owned Black slaves themselves. Archives from the American colonies indicate that
    poor Whites were also slaves, and many more "indentured" servants. . Slavery had been a reality since the beginning of time amongst virtually all people. Even amongst the blameless American Indians. Europeans ended the widespread practice, when today some still sell human beings[such as in israel].



    Today, I am told my race must pay the Black race for slavery. No one
    has asked the Jewish people to pay for their ancestors' slave merchant activities or the African cheiftans, who still kidnap and sell their enemies into slavery. No one has suggested reparations for my people who were
    enslaved by the African Berbers or the Asians or the Arabs. Fair is fair.
    Shall we open this can of worms? Will we even be allowed to present our
    case? Likely, no. We have been assigned the perpetrator role, with the full cooperation of our own people.



    I do have White guilt, but not for the reasons you think.



    I feel guilty over the fact that my indigenous people killed each
    other over tribal issues. They began the process of the disuniting of the diaspora.



    I feel guilty that my imperial ancestors divided themselves along
    class lines. They learned to ignore the wisdom of the working class.



    I feel guilty that my people didn't respect the religion of others. In the process, we have lost our indigenous rootedness and the values that kept entire families together.



    I feel guilty that my Celtic ancestors didn't see that those they enlisted to defeat other clans would soon destroy them too. This allowed a
    few greedy clans to profit from the misery of their own brothers and
    sisters.



    I feel guilty over the fact that my American Revolutionary ancestors willingly gave up their own folkways to blend into the genocidal American melting pot. It has left us with a "culture" of greed, hamburgers and
    football. It has left us as "roadkill" at the side of the road, being eaten
    by culture vultures.



    I feel especially guilty that my own people slaughtered each other on
    the battlefield in the Civil War over cotton. Today kids are told it was
    over slavery, which is nothing but revisionist anti-White history.



    I feel guilty that my European kin killed millions of their own
    brothers and sisters in two World Wars. It replaced kinship with national loyalties.



    Finally, I'd like to say that we as a people must learn to feel guilty over what we have done to ourselves. We need to reconnect with our souls. We must bring back our long-forgotten folkways. The United States, and other nations are on a path of self-suicide. Eurocide, as a good friend of mine
    often says. We in the U.S. created a collective American culture, which is disintegrating in front of our eyes. I don't blame third-world immigrants
    for this. I don't hate them, I feel much White guilt over what we have done
    to our own people. We have allowed this to happen because we have allowed
    our altruism to destroy our natural defense of folk, family and tribe. We
    have allowed nationalism to evolve into internationalism the same way our ancestors allowed tribe to become imperialism.. Nationalism is a means, not
    an end. We have forgotten that, as we wave an American flag that no longer represents our interests.



    So many who are reading this feel as powerless as I do. I fight that feeling with my writing and honesty. Too often, hopelessness makes us vulnerable to self-hatred, but we MUST take action to quell this tide of
    White self-hatred. It all begins with the root of the problem, our divisions
    as a people along political, religious and national lines. The solution is
    not hatred and scapegoating of others. We have to look inward for the
    solution. Fighting for the second amendment addresses a symptom. Feeling
    anger toward other ethnic groups is a diversion from the real issue. If you committ suicide, YOU, not Smith & Wesson, are to blame.



    Those in European countries like Germany, Italy, Canada and elsewhere understand what I am saying. Their wonderful altruism has virtually opened their border to folks who have birth rates three times as high as their own. Italian women have 1.2 children per family and massive immigration. As I
    speak, only 30% of the babies born in Germany are of Germanic descent. This
    is cultural and racial suicide, people. YOU should feel guilty, not the
    Latina with 6 children. She is following her own folkways. I can't imagine Italy without Italians and Germany without Germans. We fret over lizard subspecies declines, but can't seem to see the emptiness of a world without
    our folk in all their glorious diversity. Really, it is bad. Others' may
    call me a racist for "even thinking it," but the environmental movement
    taught me to think in these terms, for which I am forever grateful. After
    all, is a lizard more important than an entire race of people? To the
    liberal, only the White European is of less importance than the lizard.



    If we don't get with the program, those who have not forgotten their roots (every other people except us) will conquer us. The opposition to genocide and ethnic cleansing should not be in the MANNER in which it is
    done, rather the RESULT to a people. We as a people are in the same position our tribes were in when the Romans, and later the imperialists came to "civilize" us. This time, the genocidalists have smiling faces and include
    many of our own fellow Europeans. The result of this peaceful invasion will mean the end of our existence. Are you willing to be a word warrior? Are you willing to put aside your differences? Are you willing to stop blaming
    others and work to wake up your own people? I don't mean in a physical way
    at all or in a way that demeans other ethnic groups. But in a spiritual way that places Euro-centricism and love for your own people above all. Our
    spirit is almost gone, and when your spirit is gone, you cease to exist.






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  • From raymond o'hara@reoh@comcast.net to alt.society.civil-disob,alt.society.civil-liberties,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.tv.popular,alt.war.civil.usa on Sunday, November 02, 2003 06:24:40
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    "Jim" <George@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5O%ob.24002$Ec1.2177481@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    Suppression of Historical Knowledge

    the only solution for you is suicide .
    please don't cross post to alt.war.civil.usa we have enough nuts already .,


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