• Re: Which is better: Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP?

    From AFM@afm@tightfit.fsnet.co.uk to comp.os.ms-windows.misc on Friday, July 18, 2003 09:27:51
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    I have heard that XP is
    bloated, memory-hungry, and 'buggie'. But since I have NO experience
    using

    I have used XP Home for almost a year - It is none of the above. It is
    very stable, recovers from GPF's if you remember that name - i.e. BSOD -
    and offers to send CPU info/stack dumps to uSoft so that the fault can
    be traced - you dont have too of course. Its not memory hungry as far as
    I can tell.
    There is the issue of registration - I believe if you modify the
    hardware too much and try to re-install XP it can refuse! The
    registration sent to uSoft initially contains a snapshot of the PC
    hardware and if this changes too much - it thinks you are trying to
    install on another machine!!! SCARY or what.... I dont have the full
    facts or experience with this as I havent come across it yet!

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  • From Eric Prebys@prebys@fnal.gov to comp.os.ms-windows.misc on Friday, July 18, 2003 12:38:45
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    Ovid wrote:
    I probably should have asked which do you prefer and why? I'm buying a new computer in the next month or so and would like some feedback as to which
    o/s I should install. I use w2k pro at work and find that it works consistently without any bluescreen errors - ever. I have heard that XP is bloated, memory-hungry, and 'buggie'. But since I have NO experience using it, I would like to get some feedback before I make a purchase. ANY
    comments are appreciated.
    TIA
    -O

    Some background you're probably aware of: WinXP *is* the next
    version of 2K, which was the next version of NT, so there's not
    a huge difference. The good news is that they've finally driven
    a stake through the heart of the horror that was DOS/Win/Win9x/ME.

    I use both WinXP and 2K extensively both at work and at home.
    Windows 2K is, IMHO, an excellent product all around, and certainly
    the finest thing Microsoft ever put out. I have never, ever,
    crashed Win2K - even doing pretty dumb things. I've also used
    all other flavors of Windows, but have repressed most of the
    memories because they were traumatic.

    I *have* managed to crash XP (the OS as opposed to individual
    processes) exactly once (I don't recall what I was doing).
    I still think it's very good and certainly head
    and shoulders above non-NT flavors of Windows. For comparison,
    I finally got to the point with ME that I would just reboot
    it every time I started a new task because it *slightly* reduced
    the probability that it would crash while I was working.

    WinXP is definitely a bit more bloated than 2K. Whatever
    the specs say, I would choose 2K for anything slower than
    1 GHz. For example. I have a 1.4 GHz at home running
    XP and a 533 Celeron running 2K. For most things, the
    response times (launching applications, navigating directories, etc)
    are about the same. Of course, once applications are launched,
    the two perform according to their processor speeds since the
    kernels are very similar. I am quite happy with
    XP on my faster machine and haven't ever really
    considered switching it to 2K.

    Personally, I find the new default look and feel of XP annoying,
    but this is largely a matter of taste. Luckily, it's
    very easy to set it up to look like almost indistinguishable
    from 2K by selecting the "classic" interface wherever possible.

    If you're buying a new (and presumably pretty fast) PC, I'd
    recommend XP. The processor speed will eat up any bloat
    during launch and navigation. Since Microsoft has finally
    chosen one path, there is a much broader committment to support
    XP than 2K. *Almost* everything will run under 2K, but
    a surprizing amount is not "officially" supported. That
    means if it doesn't run, and you try to contact the company,
    they will say "we don't support 2K" and hang up. On the
    other hand, a software company that doesn't support XP will
    not be in business much longer. How important this
    is to you depends on how many different types of software
    you run and what they are. If you run games, for example, I'd
    *definitely* choose XP.

    Also, some of the new features are genuinely nice to have.
    For example, I was setting up home
    networking and found the setup wizard extremely useful.

    -Eric






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  • From Ovid@Ovid@Epigram.com to comp.os.ms-windows.misc on Monday, July 21, 2003 11:13:07
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    Damn! Just when I had decided on w2k... :-)
    Now, even more to consider.
    -O


    "Eric Prebys" <prebys@fnal.gov> wrote in message news:3F1830A5.9000500@fnal.gov...
    Ovid wrote:
    I probably should have asked which do you prefer and why? I'm buying a
    new
    computer in the next month or so and would like some feedback as to
    which
    o/s I should install. I use w2k pro at work and find that it works consistently without any bluescreen errors - ever. I have heard that XP
    is
    bloated, memory-hungry, and 'buggie'. But since I have NO experience
    using
    it, I would like to get some feedback before I make a purchase. ANY comments are appreciated.
    TIA
    -O

    Some background you're probably aware of: WinXP *is* the next
    version of 2K, which was the next version of NT, so there's not
    a huge difference. The good news is that they've finally driven
    a stake through the heart of the horror that was DOS/Win/Win9x/ME.

    I use both WinXP and 2K extensively both at work and at home.
    Windows 2K is, IMHO, an excellent product all around, and certainly
    the finest thing Microsoft ever put out. I have never, ever,
    crashed Win2K - even doing pretty dumb things. I've also used
    all other flavors of Windows, but have repressed most of the
    memories because they were traumatic.

    I *have* managed to crash XP (the OS as opposed to individual
    processes) exactly once (I don't recall what I was doing).
    I still think it's very good and certainly head
    and shoulders above non-NT flavors of Windows. For comparison,
    I finally got to the point with ME that I would just reboot
    it every time I started a new task because it *slightly* reduced
    the probability that it would crash while I was working.

    WinXP is definitely a bit more bloated than 2K. Whatever
    the specs say, I would choose 2K for anything slower than
    1 GHz. For example. I have a 1.4 GHz at home running
    XP and a 533 Celeron running 2K. For most things, the
    response times (launching applications, navigating directories, etc)
    are about the same. Of course, once applications are launched,
    the two perform according to their processor speeds since the
    kernels are very similar. I am quite happy with
    XP on my faster machine and haven't ever really
    considered switching it to 2K.

    Personally, I find the new default look and feel of XP annoying,
    but this is largely a matter of taste. Luckily, it's
    very easy to set it up to look like almost indistinguishable
    from 2K by selecting the "classic" interface wherever possible.

    If you're buying a new (and presumably pretty fast) PC, I'd
    recommend XP. The processor speed will eat up any bloat
    during launch and navigation. Since Microsoft has finally
    chosen one path, there is a much broader committment to support
    XP than 2K. *Almost* everything will run under 2K, but
    a surprizing amount is not "officially" supported. That
    means if it doesn't run, and you try to contact the company,
    they will say "we don't support 2K" and hang up. On the
    other hand, a software company that doesn't support XP will
    not be in business much longer. How important this
    is to you depends on how many different types of software
    you run and what they are. If you run games, for example, I'd
    *definitely* choose XP.

    Also, some of the new features are genuinely nice to have.
    For example, I was setting up home
    networking and found the setup wizard extremely useful.

    -Eric








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  • From Phil Robyn@zipprobyn@uclink.berkeley.edu to comp.os.ms-windows.misc on Monday, July 21, 2003 16:11:03
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.ms-windows.misc

    QuickHare wrote:

    Like Ovid, I am too considering Windows 2000 or Windows XP as my next OS to upgrade to. However, my needs are slightly different.

    This point was raised by Eric Prebys:

    Some background you're probably aware of: WinXP *is* the next
    version of 2K, which was the next version of NT, so there's not
    a huge difference. The good news is that they've finally driven
    a stake through the heart of the horror that was DOS/Win/Win9x/ME.


    The entire post was a great advert to WinXP, and helped a lot. However,
    doing away with DOS is bad news for me.
    I am studying at university, and many programs I need for my course are written in DOS. There are no Windows counterparts or upgrades. Also, many great games I have use DOS in some way.
    This means that XP is a bad move for me.
    Win2000 does have limited DOS support, and I know all of my DOS programs
    work in it.
    However, I don't want to change to Win2000 for a great cost when XP is obviously overtaking. This would mean I would not be able to use half my programs anymore.

    Therefore, do I get any form of guarantee that some programs will work? Is there any way to 're-enable' DOS temporarily until I don't need them, or
    only under one user profile?

    There is no DOS to 're-enable' in either Win2000 or WinXP.


    The answer to this question will make or break my decision to change to
    WinXP or Win2000. Any help?

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    Univ. of California, Berkeley

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