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    From graalguy@graalguy@yahoo.com (Ian Gowen) to comp.sys.apple2 on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 19:19:15
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    okay, so basically my problem is that i don't have any apple II disks
    and i don't know how to format them.
    When i start up, it gives me the "Check Startup Device" error... then
    i hit "control/reset" and it goes to the BASIC prompt.
    Is there a way to format the disks there?
    On a side note, is there a way to create A2 disks from disk images on
    a PC with the PC's drive?
    -Ian
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  • From Paul Grammens@grammens@svn.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 21:59:40
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    "Ian Gowen" <graalguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6f7c443d.0307081819.28d7588f@posting.google.com...
    okay, so basically my problem is that i don't have any apple II disks
    and i don't know how to format them.
    When i start up, it gives me the "Check Startup Device" error... then
    i hit "control/reset" and it goes to the BASIC prompt.
    Is there a way to format the disks there?
    On a side note, is there a way to create A2 disks from disk images on
    a PC with the PC's drive?

    You can't use a PC floppy to make disks for your IIgs. You can use a Mac
    with a SuperDrive floppy. The new USB floppies won't work. Download the
    GS/OS disk images from the Apple archives, and use DiskDup+ to make floppies from the images. DiskDup+ is a shareware program you can find on the net. Search for Diskdup292.hqx.

    If you don't have access to an older Mac with a SuperDrive floppy, you can
    get software onto your IIgs from your PC with a null-modem cable and a
    program called ADT. Read over the faq:

    http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs1START.html

    Details on ADT are here:

    http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2T1TCOM.html#003

    Oh yeah, and the easy way is to get someone to send you the disks in the
    mail. Try to get a comm program too, so you can do file transfers between
    your PC and the IIgs.
    Good luck, and have fun with that IIgs.
    -Paul


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  • From Stephen Hartz@SHartz@columbus.rr.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 18:31:56
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    Try Joe Kohn @ shareware solutions II for actual disks of system software...

    "Ian Gowen" <graalguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6f7c443d.0307081819.28d7588f@posting.google.com...
    okay, so basically my problem is that i don't have any apple II disks
    and i don't know how to format them.
    When i start up, it gives me the "Check Startup Device" error... then
    i hit "control/reset" and it goes to the BASIC prompt.
    Is there a way to format the disks there?
    On a side note, is there a way to create A2 disks from disk images on
    a PC with the PC's drive?
    -Ian


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  • From graalguy@graalguy@yahoo.com (Ian Gowen) to comp.sys.apple2 on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 13:31:39
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    "Paul Grammens" <grammens@svn.net> wrote in message news:<vgn880tnsavufb@corp.supernews.com>...
    "Ian Gowen" <graalguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6f7c443d.0307081819.28d7588f@posting.google.com...
    okay, so basically my problem is that i don't have any apple II disks
    and i don't know how to format them.
    When i start up, it gives me the "Check Startup Device" error... then
    i hit "control/reset" and it goes to the BASIC prompt.
    Is there a way to format the disks there?
    On a side note, is there a way to create A2 disks from disk images on
    a PC with the PC's drive?

    You can't use a PC floppy to make disks for your IIgs.

    Crap.

    You can use a Mac
    with a SuperDrive floppy.
    don't have access to one.
    The new USB floppies won't work. Download the
    GS/OS disk images from the Apple archives, and use DiskDup+ to make floppies from the images. DiskDup+ is a shareware program you can find on the net. Search for Diskdup292.hqx.

    If you don't have access to an older Mac with a SuperDrive floppy, you can get software onto your IIgs from your PC with a null-modem cable and a program called ADT. Read over the faq:

    Needs some kind of a serial card. :-P


    http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs1START.html

    Details on ADT are here:

    http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2T1TCOM.html#003

    Oh yeah, and the easy way is to get someone to send you the disks in the mail. Try to get a comm program too, so you can do file transfers between your PC and the IIgs.

    Who does that?


    Good luck, and have fun with that IIgs.

    i'm trying...:)
    But wouldn't it be possible to convert the a2 disk image to a standard
    format floppy-disk image and write it using an app like rawrite? i
    don't need to read the disks at all, just writing.
    -Ian
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  • From Paul Grammens@grammens@svn.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 15:40:10
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2


    "Ian Gowen" <graalguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6f7c443d.0307091231.66ffa634@posting.google.com...
    "Paul Grammens" <grammens@svn.net> wrote

    If you don't have access to an older Mac with a SuperDrive floppy, you
    can
    get software onto your IIgs from your PC with a null-modem cable and a program called ADT. Read over the faq:

    Needs some kind of a serial card. :-P


    Your IIgs has two serial ports built-in. They are Mac-style, 8 pin mini DIN connectors. If you can solder, you can make your own null-modem cable. Otherwise, use a Mac modem cable and a PC modem cable, with a null-modem adapter in between.

    Good luck, and have fun with that IIgs.

    i'm trying...:)
    But wouldn't it be possible to convert the a2 disk image to a standard
    format floppy-disk image and write it using an app like rawrite? i
    don't need to read the disks at all, just writing.

    No, unfortunately the PC hardware can't make a bootable disk for the IIgs.
    Your only choices are having someone mail you the disks or using ADT. If
    you enjoy a technical challenge, go the ADT route. If you want the easy
    route, pay someone to make the disks for you. There are a number of individuals and organizations who will mail you disks for a few bucks.
    Someone just suggested Joe Kohn, and the faq has info on that too.

    See if you can get some essential utilities at the same time- Shrinkit, ShrinkitGS, and a comm program come to mind. With those, you can easily download IIgs programs off the net, transfer them to your IIgs, and extract
    the archives.
    -Paul



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  • From Michael Pender@mpender@hotmail.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Thursday, July 10, 2003 08:02:38
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    Ian Gowen <graalguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6f7c443d.0307081819.28d7588f@posting.google.com...
    okay, so basically my problem is that i don't have any apple II disks
    and i don't know how to format them.
    When i start up, it gives me the "Check Startup Device" error... then
    i hit "control/reset" and it goes to the BASIC prompt.
    Is there a way to format the disks there?
    On a side note, is there a way to create A2 disks from disk images on
    a PC with the PC's drive?
    -Ian

    I think a Mac with a superdrive (non-USB 3.5" floppy) could format an Apple
    II ProDOS disk and transfer files or a disk image to it. If you literally
    want to create the A2 disks from a PC floppy you could do that on the Mac,
    or else you could network the Mac to the PC and copy the files.

    - Mike

    (I never thought that the day would come that I would sing the praises of
    the Macintosh--somebody check my temperature :-)


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