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    From Paul Allen Panks@panks@sdf.lonestar.org to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 09:26:18
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    Hello,

    I am a regular over at the comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

    I was wondering if anyone has developed a web browser for the
    Apple II/IIe?

    With the memory of the IIe, I'd imagine such a project would have
    long been the dream of many an Apple II enthusiast.

    How about the IIgs?

    Sincerely,

    Paul Allen Panks
    dunric@yahoo.com


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  • From markREMOVE@markREMOVE@syndicomm.com (Mark Percival) to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:16:05
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Paul Allen Panks <panks@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:

    I was wondering if anyone has developed a web browser for the
    Apple II/IIe?

    To date there has been no real effort to bring web browsing to the
    8-bit Apple II arena. It has been discussed off and on over the years
    but lack of a TCP/IP stack, 1MHz processing power and poor graphics
    resolution, hampers any project. This isn't to say that some
    enterprising individual might not come up with something but so far it
    hasn't happened.

    Today the best method for 8-bit web browsing is still via a Unix shell
    account and runnin Lynx (or better yet Links) from the shell.

    How about the IIgs?

    The situation in the IIgs world is a little better.

    First of all there is a TCP/IP stack available in the form of
    Marinetti. Creator Richard Bennett-Forrest and Andrew Rougham just
    announced at Kansas Fest the other day the availability of version
    3.0b1. This issue resolves some old issues while adding new features.

    On top of that you can run SIS (Spectrum Internet Suite) for web
    browsing. SIS creator Geoff Weiss also announced at this year's
    Kansas Fest the availability of version 1.2 which add a slew of new
    features including direct support for Marinetti. As the product name
    eludes to it does require Spectrum to run.

    Alternately there is Arachnid from Kim Howe. Arachnid has the benefit
    of not requiring Spectrum over SIS but is still in the early beta
    stages of development. Unfortunately, due to the health problems of
    the developer, development has stalled.

    Further info:

    A2Central.com http://www.a2central.com/
    Marinetti http://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti
    Spectrum http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko/spectrum.html
    SIS http://www.gwlink.net/sis/
    Arachnid http://www.a2central.com/~kimhowe/arachnid.html

    Mark R. Percival - RTC Host - Syndicomm Online Apple II Forum
    "Midweek Madness!" Every Wednesday Night : 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM Pacific Time

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  • From Paul Allen Panks@panks@sdf.lonestar.org to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 18:23:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    Mark,

    The Contiki Web Browser currently supports the C64 and Atari 800XL. Why wouldn't they also support the Apple II series? Both the C64 and Atari
    800XL clock in at just over 1 Mhz, and both have 320 x 200 resolution capabilities. It should very much be possible on the Apple II if both of
    these systems can do it.

    Paul
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  • From desiv@desiv@attbi.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 18:43:05
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    There is someone working (Did he ever get his Apple II unboxed and
    working??) supposedly on the Apple II port of Contiki...

    And I can think of no technical reason as to why what works so far on the
    C64 can't be done on the Apple II.

    I think most of the work (if I understand it) is actually in extending the
    cc65 compiler to be aware enough of the Apple II specific functions (timers, serial routines, etc) to allow the Contiki source to compile..

    Considering a large number (majority??) of Apple IIs have 128 K(I mistyped
    it "MB" originally.. Habit. Had to change it to K Still hard to believe K
    not Meg.. :-) of memory or more, I would think it should be at least as good for basic functionality.

    I'm still hoping....

    desiv


    "Paul Allen Panks" <panks@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote in message news:bg15bd$2tp$1@chessie.cirr.com...
    Mark,

    The Contiki Web Browser currently supports the C64 and Atari 800XL. Why wouldn't they also support the Apple II series? Both the C64 and Atari
    800XL clock in at just over 1 Mhz, and both have 320 x 200 resolution capabilities. It should very much be possible on the Apple II if both of these systems can do it.

    Paul


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  • From markREMOVE@markREMOVE@syndicomm.com (Mark Percival) to comp.sys.apple2 on Monday, July 28, 2003 09:43:08
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, "desiv" <desiv@attbi.com> wrote:

    And I can think of no technical reason as to why what works so far on the
    C64 can't be done on the Apple II.

    You're absolutely right. The main advantage the C64 has over the
    Apple II is volume. Commodore sold over 17 million C64s during it's
    life cycle. That is almost 3 times the total number of Apple II's
    sold (I believe to be around 6 million). This isn't to say that one
    platform is better than the other but it will probably translate into
    3 times the number of hobbyists out there for the C64 which will make
    a projects like Contiki happen more quickly.

    Mark R. Percival - RTC Host - Syndicomm Online Apple II Forum
    "Midweek Madness!" Every Wednesday Night : 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM Pacific Time

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  • From Rob@rsteinmetz-deletethis@mindspring.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Monday, July 28, 2003 20:26:55
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    Paul Allen Panks wrote:
    Mark,

    The Contiki Web Browser currently supports the C64 and Atari 800XL. Why wouldn't they also support the Apple II series? Both the C64 and Atari
    800XL clock in at just over 1 Mhz, and both have 320 x 200 resolution capabilities. It should very much be possible on the Apple II if both of these systems can do it.

    Paul
    One problem is that the Apple ][ has a much greater diversity of
    hardware with all of those slots and several major variations of the
    Apple ( ][, ][+, ][e, //c and //c+)

    --
    Rob

    "Never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by
    stupidity"

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