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I tried to do my own PSU swap on a Rom 03, and I broke the gold pins that connect to the FAN connection on the motherboard.

Is there anyone out there who knows whether it is even possible to fix this? Or did I just ruin an otherwise-good Rom 03?

Thank you.
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It's not ruined. The fan isn't essential. I have no fan in mine.

That said, if you can find a similar connector on some other scrap circuit board, a bit of work with a soldering iron will transplant the part easily. Two pin connectors are pretty common.

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:28:11 AM UTC-7, KP wrote:

I tried to do my own PSU swap on a Rom 03, and I broke the gold pins that connect to the FAN connection on the motherboard.

Is there anyone out there who knows whether it is even possible to fix this? Or did I just ruin an otherwise-good Rom 03?

Thank you.

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Thank you. I would gladly buy a dead circuit board from someone in order to harvest the two-pin connectors. That said, this has re-affirmed that I do not know what I am doing when it comes to manipulating the innards of these machines beyond removing cards and installing cards. Every time that I hear someone say "it's just a little soldering" or "these machines are built tough," I am going to remember this and remember that no, I really do not know what I am doing. I can't work with the insides of these computers without wrecking them. And I just re-learned that lesson the hard way.
For that reason, is there anyone in New England who would do that sort of soldering for a fee? I would gladly drive this machine and, once I have it, a dead circuit board with the necessary two-pin connector, to anyone willing to do it.
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:59:40 AM UTC-4, mspa...@ifiber.tv wrote:

It's not ruined. The fan isn't essential. I have no fan in mine.

That said, if you can find a similar connector on some other scrap circuit board, a bit of work with a soldering iron will transplant the part easily. Two pin connectors are pretty common.
On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:28:11 AM UTC-7, KP wrote:

I tried to do my own PSU swap on a Rom 03, and I broke the gold pins that connect to the FAN connection on the motherboard.

Is there anyone out there who knows whether it is even possible to fix this? Or did I just ruin an otherwise-good Rom 03?

Thank you.

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KP <kjpmail@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you. I would gladly buy a dead circuit board from someone in order
to harvest the two-pin connectors. That said, this has re-affirmed that
I do not know what I am doing when it comes to manipulating the innards
of these machines beyond removing cards and installing cards. Every time that I hear someone say "it's just a little soldering" or "these machines
are built tough," I am going to remember this and remember that no, I
really do not know what I am doing. I can't work with the insides of
these computers without wrecking them. And I just re-learned that lesson the hard way.

For that reason, is there anyone in New England who would do that sort of soldering for a fee? I would gladly drive this machine and, once I have
it, a dead circuit board with the necessary two-pin connector, to anyone willing to do it.

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:59:40 AM UTC-4, mspa...@ifiber.tv wrote:

It's not ruined. The fan isn't essential. I have no fan in mine.

That said, if you can find a similar connector on some other scrap
circuit board, a bit of work with a soldering iron will transplant the
part easily. Two pin connectors are pretty common.
On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:28:11 AM UTC-7, KP wrote:

I tried to do my own PSU swap on a Rom 03, and I broke the gold pins
that connect to the FAN connection on the motherboard.

Is there anyone out there who knows whether it is even possible to fix
this? Or did I just ruin an otherwise-good Rom 03?

Thank you.

Getting another IIgs main board just to “harvest” a 2-pin Molex connector is gross overkill. These connectors are very cheap and widely available,
both as salvage and new. For example, any old desktop PC will have some,
and such machines are much less scarce than a IIgs.

But the real issue is that it is completely irrelevant to the normal functioning of your machine. Unless you plan to fill the slots with power-hungry cards, you’ll have no need for a fan, and therefore no need
for a new fan connector.

BTW, don’t sell yourself short. Anyone can become proficient at soldering given the right iron, the right solder, and a few hours of practice on
scrap printed circuit boards (like an old PC, or even a TV). If you hope
to keep your Apple II’s running for years, soldering is an excellent skill
to develop.

--
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com
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Would that there was an Apple II user group in my area, and someone in that user group who could help me learn that skill. What I think that I saw this weekend is that I can't teach myself these skills. I may well have been able to learn them from a teacher, but I am likely to wreck things if I try to be an autodidact.
If there is anyone in New England seeing this message who wouldn't mind teaching someone the basics of soldering, etc., I would be very grateful. Unfortunately, the founder and leading Apple II guru of the Rhode Island Apple User Group passed away nearly a decade ago.
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 3:32:01 AM UTC-4, Michael J. Mahon wrote:

KP <kjp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you. I would gladly buy a dead circuit board from someone in order to harvest the two-pin connectors. That said, this has re-affirmed that
I do not know what I am doing when it comes to manipulating the innards
of these machines beyond removing cards and installing cards. Every time that I hear someone say "it's just a little soldering" or "these machines are built tough," I am going to remember this and remember that no, I really do not know what I am doing. I can't work with the insides of
these computers without wrecking them. And I just re-learned that lesson the hard way.

For that reason, is there anyone in New England who would do that sort of soldering for a fee? I would gladly drive this machine and, once I have it, a dead circuit board with the necessary two-pin connector, to anyone willing to do it.

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:59:40 AM UTC-4, mspa...@ifiber.tv wrote:

It's not ruined. The fan isn't essential. I have no fan in mine.

That said, if you can find a similar connector on some other scrap
circuit board, a bit of work with a soldering iron will transplant the
part easily. Two pin connectors are pretty common.
On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:28:11 AM UTC-7, KP wrote:

I tried to do my own PSU swap on a Rom 03, and I broke the gold pins
that connect to the FAN connection on the motherboard.

Is there anyone out there who knows whether it is even possible to fix >>> this? Or did I just ruin an otherwise-good Rom 03?

Thank you.

Getting another IIgs main board just to “harvest” a 2-pin Molex connector
is gross overkill. These connectors are very cheap and widely available, both as salvage and new. For example, any old desktop PC will have some,
and such machines are much less scarce than a IIgs.

But the real issue is that it is completely irrelevant to the normal functioning of your machine. Unless you plan to fill the slots with power-hungry cards, you’ll have no need for a fan, and therefore no need for a new fan connector.

BTW, don’t sell yourself short. Anyone can become proficient at soldering given the right iron, the right solder, and a few hours of practice on
scrap printed circuit boards (like an old PC, or even a TV). If you hope
to keep your Apple II’s running for years, soldering is an excellent skill to develop.

--
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com

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On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:34:13 AM UTC-7, KP wrote:

Would that there was an Apple II user group in my area, and someone in that user group who could help me learn that skill. What I think that I saw this weekend is that I can't teach myself these skills. I may well have been able to learn them from a teacher, but I am likely to wreck things if I try to be an autodidact.

I was the same as you, in that I only ever swapped out cards, and never been a "hardware" guy, really. Even so, I wanted to at least try it once in my lifetime. I am still no expert on soldering, but I've was able to create battery case and wires for a IIgs, create an internal cable from motherboard to port cable for a external 10-key for a IIe, and I managed to build the RamWorks IIII kit from Reactive Micro.
Stay with it, and you can do it!
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Thank you. With some good teaching, I might be able to get there. But after this weekend, I can't keep trying to teach myself how to do hardware stuff. I need to learn from someone who can show me how to do it. The first order of business is to replace that two-pin "FAN" connector. The second order of business is to get this IIgs working.
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 1:04:19 PM UTC-4, William Tomlinson wrote:

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:34:13 AM UTC-7, KP wrote:

Would that there was an Apple II user group in my area, and someone in that user group who could help me learn that skill. What I think that I saw this weekend is that I can't teach myself these skills. I may well have been able to learn them from a teacher, but I am likely to wreck things if I try to be an autodidact.

I was the same as you, in that I only ever swapped out cards, and never been a "hardware" guy, really. Even so, I wanted to at least try it once in my lifetime. I am still no expert on soldering, but I've was able to create battery case and wires for a IIgs, create an internal cable from motherboard to port cable for a external 10-key for a IIe, and I managed to build the RamWorks IIII kit from Reactive Micro.

Stay with it, and you can do it!

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In article <18308a4f-5b9d-48ff-bf85-5b64b28535bcn@googlegroups.com>,
KP <kjpmail@gmail.com> wrote:

Would that there was an Apple II user group in my area, and someone in
that user group who could help me learn that skill. What I think that I
saw this weekend is that I can't teach myself these skills. I may well
have been able to learn them from a teacher, but I am likely to wreck
things if I try to be an autodidact.

It's not exactly rocket surgery. Have you tried looking for videos on the subject?

https://www.qwant.com/?q=how+to+solder+site%3Ayoutube.com&client=brz-brave&t=web

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On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:07:42 AM UTC-5, Scott Alfter wrote:

In article <18308a4f-5b9d-48ff...@googlegroups.com>,
It's not exactly rocket surgery. Have you tried looking for videos on the subject?

It may not be rocket surgery, but it is a skill a rocket surgeon would be proficient in.
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