• Re: Mouse using graphics programs?

    From Roger Johnstone@rojaws@es.co.nz to comp.sys.apple2 on Saturday, July 12, 2003 04:51:10
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    In <3F00C677.2010403@telus.dotnet> Wayne Stewart wrote:

    Bill Garber wrote:

    Slightly off the subject, and FWIW, the IIe and the M0100 mouses
    do not work on the IIc. I've seen many auctions for them claiming
    that they do, but I have run several tests on different programs
    just now and at times it seems as though they will work, but once
    you open a window/file and attempt to move the IIe or M0100 to
    it, all it does is float in a vertical trajectory. I thought any
    newbies with IIc's and IIc+'s would like this info. Bill @
    GarberStreet Enterprises };-) Web Site - http://garberstreet.netfirms.
    com Email - willy46pa@comcast.net

    That's not exactly correct becase of the way Apple labels it's mice.
    A few years ago I had reason to take apart a large number of 9 pin
    mice. I believe I found 5 different designs of mice with the M0100
    part number. Also each of those designs was also found with two or
    more different part numbers. I'm guessing that all the designs of
    mice had the same part # and when they overhauled their inventory
    system, they just started using a different part number.

    Wayne

    As usual, I came across something interesting while looking for
    something quite unrelated. There's an article on Apple's support site
    which mentions the problem with Mac mice on a IIc:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=7522

    The article follows:

    Apple IIc: Use Mouse Designed for Macintosh

    TOPIC

    I have a question concerning the "platinum" Apple IIc and a mouse.
    When I'm using the mouse, the cursor starts at the top-left corner
    and moves straight down to the bottom-left corner of the screen. Why?

    DISCUSSION

    You have come across an incompatibility in mouse timing. The mouse
    sold for the Apple IIc works properly, and mice received from service
    work properly. However, mice that came from Macintosh Plus systems
    sometimes work and sometimes not, depending on the manufacturer.

    To assure proper operation, make sure you use a mouse that was
    designed for use with the IIc.

    --
    Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand

    Apple II - FutureCop:LAPD - iMac Game Wizard http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rojaws/ ________________________________________________________________________
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  • From Bill Garber@willy46pa@comcast.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Saturday, July 12, 2003 00:59:05
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    "Roger Johnstone" <rojaws@es.co.nz> wrote in message news:20030712165108589+1200@news.inv.ihug.co.nz...
    In <3F00C677.2010403@telus.dotnet> Wayne Stewart wrote:

    As usual, I came across something interesting while looking for
    something quite unrelated. There's an article on Apple's support site
    which mentions the problem with Mac mice on a IIc:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=7522

    The article follows:

    Apple IIc: Use Mouse Designed for Macintosh

    TOPIC

    I have a question concerning the "platinum" Apple IIc and a mouse.
    When I'm using the mouse, the cursor starts at the top-left corner
    and moves straight down to the bottom-left corner of the screen. Why?

    DISCUSSION

    You have come across an incompatibility in mouse timing. The mouse
    sold for the Apple IIc works properly, and mice received from service
    work properly. However, mice that came from Macintosh Plus systems
    sometimes work and sometimes not, depending on the manufacturer.

    To assure proper operation, make sure you use a mouse that was
    designed for use with the IIc.

    I conclude that Japan made mouses do not work, USA made ones do.

    Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprises };-)
    Web Site - http://garberstreet.netfirms.com
    Email - willy46pa@comcast.net



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  • From obsbedia2@obsbedia2@aol.com (Obsbedia2) to comp.sys.apple2 on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 06:37:48
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2

    All my MousePaints have the same version number; it all a matter of whether it came from a 5.25" disk, or the 3.5" Catalyst disk that determines whether it will run off of the HD or not.

    My advice is to forget MousePaint and use Mark Simonsen's HiRes "SoftPaint" instead (SoftDisk #130). It loves the HD, is friendly, full-screened, well thought out, in COLOR, and has a ton more fonts (especially if you transfer the fonts from it's earlier version, Grafix Pro). It's my favorite HR paint program.
    ][-JaY

    << I'll have to see if I have a later version. I have disks with different
    part numbers. I used an easily version that came with my mouse and
    mouscard and never thought to check for a later version. It would make
    sense for them to make it work on any hard drive.

    Wayne >>



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  • From Wayne Stewart@waynes@telus.dotnet to comp.sys.apple2 on Thursday, July 17, 2003 07:40:20
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.apple2



    Obsbedia2 wrote:
    All my MousePaints have the same version number; it all a matter of whether it
    came from a 5.25" disk, or the 3.5" Catalyst disk that determines whether it will run off of the HD or not.

    My advice is to forget MousePaint and use Mark Simonsen's HiRes "SoftPaint" instead (SoftDisk #130). It loves the HD, is friendly, full-screened, well thought out, in COLOR, and has a ton more fonts (especially if you transfer the
    fonts from it's earlier version, Grafix Pro). It's my favorite HR paint program.
    ][-JaY

    You're right, MousePaint isn't that great a program but I do have a soft
    spot in my heart for it. Even if I don't use it, I still like having it
    on my hard drive.

    Wayne

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