• Re: Thread subjects

    From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 00:58:06
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:04:58 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    <snip!>

    How is it not relevant to the Amstrad group then? Tell us exactly why.

    Which one's exactly?

    Any of Weeto's posts. I don't care which. Tell me which one's are not >relevant
    at all to the Amstrad NG.

    Oh well, lets see, there's the one where he's discussing about the C64 (an >attempt at a flare-up I should imagine - neither on-topic for c.s.s or >c.s.a.8) & the one where he wants to update some really good games for an >unspecified computer. I should get Weetomuncher to update those games for
    the Jupiter Ace while he's at it (does he know any Forth?).

    But you yourself has stated that you would love an update to Count Duckula 2. So
    surely that makes you a hypcrite for saying that his posts on the subject were not valid in your group?

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  • From Peter Thomas@see-my-sig@hotmail.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 02:15:20
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:52:41 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:


    Posting to c.s.a.8 is a mistake, sure there are
    some
    people there who program for modern computers as far as supporting the >Amstrad
    computer itself. Anything outside of that machine suggests that it has no >place
    to be there as it is of no use to it. What you do with your modern machines >is
    of no concern to me

    So basically, all discussion of Amstrad CPC emulation for
    Windows/Linux/Mac platforms is banned... according to Ross Simpson.

    I would hope the rest of the Amstrad group disagree with this
    viewpoint

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  • From Richard Wilson@rich@bitwise-systems.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 02:30:33
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Dunny wrote:

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    However, he *has* been responsible for some excellent debates here in CSS. Are
    you saying that he's simply trolling by causing these discussions?

    I agree. He has been, and I'm not accusing him of trolling. You CSS guys
    are used to Weetomuchers posts (I read CSS too), and appear to enjoy discussions on such only-just-on-topic subjects. CSA8 users tend to like staying more on-topic. Perhaps Weetomucher should give up cross-posting
    to CSA8.

    Cheers,
    Richard
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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 17:05:58
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Peter Thomas" <see-my-sig@hotmail.com> wrote in message...

    Posting to c.s.a.8 is a mistake, sure there are
    some people there who program for modern
    computers as far as supporting the Amstrad
    computer itself. Anything outside of that machine
    suggests that it has no place to be there as it
    is of no use to it. What you do with your modern
    machines is of no concern to me

    So basically, all discussion of Amstrad CPC emulation for
    Windows/Linux/Mac platforms is banned... according to Ross Simpson.

    I would hope the rest of the Amstrad group disagree with this
    viewpoint

    Ditto.


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 17:11:35
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    <snip!>

    Did you miss the C64 jokes or something?

    Yes, I did (or they were simply not that good, and worthy of a good
    Starglider
    flamebait.

    Well there are ways of going back to viewing them, but it would just mean
    I'd have to suggest some off-topic methods :-)

    No, he asks questions which I think are very much on-topic, in relation
    to
    the groups he posts them in.

    Not C.S.A.8 he doesn't. Incidently has anyone been planning on releasing >some ZX81 games for the Jupiter Ace?

    But where is your evidence that his posts are not relevant to any of the
    groups
    he has posted to?

    Read the posts! They are too vague, in other words it's off-topic because
    it's too vague.


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 17:23:17
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Matthew Westcott" <gasman@raww.org> wrote in message...

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts >>flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    What flamewars? He asks questions that are relevant. Does he say "I
    think the C64 is crap"?

    Um, yes actually.

    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=28e19b30.0307061609.760749b3%40posting. google.com

    On the basis of that post, I can understand people labelling Weetomuncher
    as a troll, although that's no reason to claim that all his other posts
    are off-topic flamebait.

    They are off-topic because of no information about the type of updating has been explained. We don't know Weetomuncher or study his or hers every post
    to the Amstrad newsgroup, so whenever some questions about "updating" comes along, how 'am I to guess which platforms (s)he want's to use this for? Like
    I said, (s)he want's to take some really good Amstrad games & update them? Taking some great Amstrad games & updating them sounds more like an update
    to another computer.

    Naturally if you going to start mucking around with an 8bit computer (like
    the C64), it gives me the impression (as an Amstrad user) that (s)he doesn't like 8bit computers & wants to update every single 8bit to a more powerful system. A good way to starting a flame.


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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 12:26:55
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:11:35 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:



    Read the posts! They are too vague, in other words it's off-topic because >it's too vague.

    So, basically, what you are ssaying, is that if the topic is not exactly about the Amstrad, then it's not welcome in the NG?

    My god, how dull it must be in there!
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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 12:28:21
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:28:06 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    <snip!>

    But you yourself has stated that you would love an update to Count Duckula >2. So
    surely that makes you a hypcrite for saying that his posts on the subject >were
    not valid in your group?

    True, effectively I acidently triggered off a Weetomuncher where I haven't >effectively made clear which system I want to see a much better version of >Count Duckula 2 for. Someone may think CP/M, but I was refering to seeing an >updated copy of it for the Amstrad computers. I wouldn't be easy to update >since a huge chunk of the game could be better.

    So then Weeto's post is still relevant. You want an update. Many of us want updates to games. We con't care what system it's on, as long as it's a great improvement over the original.

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  • From richard@richard@systemeD.not (Richard Fairhurst) to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 22:07:49
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    The Starglider <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    So, basically, what you are ssaying, is that if the topic is not exactly about
    the Amstrad, then it's not welcome in the NG?

    My god, how dull it must be in there!

    Yeah. It is. Tell you what, why not leave us to it?

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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:33:01
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    Posting to c.s.a.8 is a mistake, sure there are
    some people there who program for modern
    computers as far as supporting the Amstrad
    computer itself. Anything outside of that machine
    suggests that it has no place to be there as it
    is of no use to it. What you do with your modern
    machines is of no concern to me

    So basically, all discussion of Amstrad CPC emulation for
    Windows/Linux/Mac platforms is banned... according to Ross Simpson.

    I would hope the rest of the Amstrad group disagree with this
    viewpoint

    Ditto.

    Hang on... am I reading this right? You're agreeing to your own f*!@-up?

    No, I'm agreeing that this statement: "So basically, all discussion of the Amstrad CPC emulation for Windows/Linux/Mac platforms is banner... according
    to Ross Simpson" is false. It's one thing having an emulator (for any OS) & posting comments about it here (even our FAQ supports that) than taking a
    game & updating it for some other system while discussing the subject here.


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:37:02
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    So then Weeto's post is still relevant. You want an update. Many of us
    want
    updates to games. We con't care what system it's on, as long as it's a
    great
    improvement over the original.

    What a great bunch of back stabbers you are. I'm so happy that you like to update your computer systems every 3-4 years! ;-)


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:38:55
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    So, basically, what you are ssaying, is that if the topic is not exactly
    about
    the Amstrad, then it's not welcome in the NG?

    My god, how dull it must be in there!

    I'd rather be dull, than be a back stabber!


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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 00:07:23
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:37:02 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    So then Weeto's post is still relevant. You want an update. Many of us
    want
    updates to games. We con't care what system it's on, as long as it's a >great
    improvement over the original.

    What a great bunch of back stabbers you are. I'm so happy that you like to >update your computer systems every 3-4 years! ;-)

    Actually, these days, many of us hate the fact we have to upgrade computers if we need it to do something. That's why we always have fond memories of the old 8-bit machines.
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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:55:25
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message...

    What a great bunch of back stabbers you are. I'm so happy that you like
    to
    update your computer systems every 3-4 years! ;-)

    I've not upgraded my Speccy in over ten years. does that count?

    I was referning towards updating towards an entirely different machine! :-)

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From Frodo Morris@graham.lee@wadham.ox.invalid.ac.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:22:47
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Ross Simpson wrote:
    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...


    So then Weeto's post is still relevant. You want an update. Many of us

    want

    updates to games. We con't care what system it's on, as long as it's a

    great

    improvement over the original.


    What a great bunch of back stabbers you are. I'm so happy that you like to update your computer systems every 3-4 years! ;-)


    Erm, the last time I used a computer to write a letter (e-mail notwithstanding), it was a QL. Do I win a prize?

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  • From weetomuncher@weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk (Weetomuncher) to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Thursday, July 10, 2003 15:49:14
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Some people seem to get a bit iffed off when the subjects discussed
    aren't 100% related to the groups they are posted in.

    But surely many of the threads which appear on the 8 bit newsgroups
    ARE related to 8 bit machines.

    An example was my thread asking if the dominance of the PC had made
    the computing scene dull - surely this is relevant as many of the
    readers of the thread will have had experience of the multiformat 80s
    and 90s when several formats co-existed peacefully and the world of
    computing was so different.

    I feel that the threads don't need to be tightly relevent to the
    subject matter as long as they are of interest to the group in
    general.
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  • From Nick Humphries@nick@egyptusWIBBLE.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Thursday, July 10, 2003 23:58:39
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On 10 Jul 2003 15:49:14 -0700, weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk (Weetomuncher) wrote:

    I feel that the threads don't need to be tightly relevent to the
    subject matter as long as they are of interest to the group in
    general.

    I say cut down on the number of threads that you start, but apart from that, I don't have any problems.

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  • From Brian Watson@brian@spheroid.demon.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Friday, July 11, 2003 07:47:25
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm


    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:28e19b30.0307101449.7ecc6c2@posting.google.com...
    Some people seem to get a bit iffed off when the subjects discussed
    aren't 100% related to the groups they are posted in.

    If you, and all the stupid threads you start and crosspost to all the ngs, weren't already in my killfile I'd be disagreeing with you right here, right now.

    As it is, I obviously can't see this and anyway I can't be bothered.

    PS: I do wish care in the community wouldn't encourage the terminally-bewildered to occupy their time with computers and, especially, posting crap to newsgroups.

    --
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  • From The Doctor@thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Friday, July 11, 2003 12:14:40
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    In message <belmio$nhc$2$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>
    "Brian Watson" <brian@spheroid.demon.co.uk> wrote:


    "Weetomuncher" <weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:28e19b30.0307101449.7ecc6c2@posting.google.com...
    Some people seem to get a bit iffed off when the subjects discussed
    aren't 100% related to the groups they are posted in.

    If you, and all the stupid threads you start and crosspost to all the ngs, weren't already in my killfile I'd be disagreeing with you right here, right now.

    I think I'm close to spotting the flaw in that post....

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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Friday, July 11, 2003 12:21:07
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On 10 Jul 2003 15:49:14 -0700, weetomuncher@yahoo.co.uk (Weetomuncher) wrote:

    Some people seem to get a bit iffed off when the subjects discussed
    aren't 100% related to the groups they are posted in.

    But surely many of the threads which appear on the 8 bit newsgroups
    ARE related to 8 bit machines.

    An example was my thread asking if the dominance of the PC had made
    the computing scene dull - surely this is relevant as many of the
    readers of the thread will have had experience of the multiformat 80s
    and 90s when several formats co-existed peacefully and the world of
    computing was so different.

    I feel that the threads don't need to be tightly relevent to the
    subject matter as long as they are of interest to the group in
    general.

    You have a lot of questions you like to discuss, in such a short time. Maybe cutting down the number of questions you ask per week may help.

    Other than that, I totally agree that the questions you ask are relevant in the newsgroups you ask in. Some people though just don't "get it", or simply are that closed minded that they don't want to discuss anything else apart from their own machine.
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  • From Brian Watson@brian@spheroid.demon.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 08:41:39
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm


    "wildstar" <wildstar128@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns93B5AF5429D92wildstar128hotmailco@216.168.3.44...
    The Doctor <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote in news:87484e104c.TheDoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk:


    For what it's worth I had no problem with the 'Has the PC made computing boring' thread.
    I guess it was sort of OT but sort of not too (IYSWIM!)
    Cheers!

    Personally, this NG has never remained 100% On-Topic.

    By preceding the main part of your statement with a parenthetical
    "personally", all you are saying is that *you* have never remained 100% on topic in the newsgroup to which you are posting. You want pedantic? We can
    do pedantic.

    It might your case (a bit) if you said which newsgroup you are talking
    about. This is being read in three, due to the recent rash of crossposting
    by the Tourette's-afflicted Rug-muncher, or whatever he calls himself.

    --
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  • From Dunny@paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 09:45:08
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Brian Watson wrote:

    You want pedantic? We can do pedantic.

    Ok, so can we.

    It might your case (a bit) if you said

    It might *what*, exactly?

    which newsgroup you are talking
    about. This is being read in three, due to the recent rash of
    crossposting by the Tourette's-afflicted Rug-muncher, or whatever he
    calls himself.

    That's WheetoMuncher, do try and keep up. Tourettes? I don't recall him ever swearing or even being intentionally offensive - just a mild c64 joke, which seeing as he comes from a Spectrum group, is understandable. That's the problem with all you lot that can't take Wheeto's posts - so far both you and Mr. Simpson have accused him of posting content that he has not.

    D.



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  • From wildstar@wildstar128@hotmail.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 08:47:50
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Brian Watson" <brian@spheroid.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:beoe3l$hui$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk:


    By preceding the main part of your statement with a parenthetical "personally", all you are saying is that *you* have never remained
    100% on topic in the newsgroup to which you are posting. You want
    pedantic? We can do pedantic.

    It might your case (a bit) if you said which newsgroup you are talking
    about. This is being read in three, due to the recent rash of
    crossposting by the Tourette's-afflicted Rug-muncher, or whatever he
    calls himself.

    Sorry, comp.sys.cbm is the NG I was talking about. I would call him a buttmuncher but hey, I personally not follow every message posted. I would say, one is not required to be 100% on-topic in an unmoderated newsgroup.


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  • From richard@richard@systemeD.not (Richard Fairhurst) to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:22:49
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Dunny <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    That's the problem with all you lot that can't take Wheeto's posts - so
    far both you and Mr. Simpson have accused him of posting content that he
    has not.

    It may not be coincidence that those of us who object strongly to
    Weetomuncher mostly hail from csa8. His posts are all about retrogaming,
    which for a large proportion of us on csa8 is of no interest whatsoever.
    (The CPC was always much less of a games machine than either the C64 or
    the Spectrum.)

    Suggestion: Weetomuncher, why not post solely to css and csc, where your
    posts are evidently more welcome, and where those people from csa8 who
    want to read them can make the effort to go and pick them up?

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    | The point is not to put poetry at the service of the revolution,
    | but to put the revolution at the service of poetry.
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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 22:03:40
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Doctor" wrote in message...

    Some people seem to get a bit iffed off when the subjects discussed
    aren't 100% related to the groups they are posted in.

    But surely many of the threads which appear on the 8 bit newsgroups
    ARE related to 8 bit machines.

    An example was my thread asking if the dominance of the PC had made
    the computing scene dull - surely this is relevant as many of the
    readers of the thread will have had experience of the multiformat 80s
    and 90s when several formats co-existed peacefully and the world of computing was so different.

    I feel that the threads don't need to be tightly relevent to the
    subject matter as long as they are of interest to the group in
    general.

    For what it's worth I had no problem with the 'Has the PC made computing boring' thread. I guess it was sort of OT but sort of not too (IYSWIM!)

    Sorry, but I can see two things wrong with these sorts of threads. For the Amstrad group it can hardly be of any importance for the machine (there
    are occassions where there are some off-topic discussions which are labeled [i], no attempt was done on these occassions). The second problem is the comments made in these threads. In a sense it fills these newsgroups with useless information! Doing that, creates issues in relation to where will
    it end?

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 22:22:58
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Richard Fairhurst" <richard@systemeD.not> wrote in message...

    Other than that, I totally agree that the questions you ask are relevant
    in the newsgroups you ask in. Some people though just don't "get it", or simply are that closed minded that they don't want to discuss anything
    else apart from their own machine.

    Yeah, that's why we read comp.sys.amstrad.8bit rather than uk.misc,
    funnily enough.

    Makes sense to me.

    I am beginning to wonder whether Weetomuncher and the offensively under-informed The Technical Manager are related.

    Heh! ;-)


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  • From Riaz Ali@riazali@lineone.net to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 16:32:42
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Sorry, I disagree. This is JUST a newsgroup on the internet and these are
    JUST threads and... well when your job is as a nurse on an acute psychiatric ward, issues like this seem quite flippant and meaningless. Let's all just
    hug and be friends.

    Personally, the main reason I had a CPC464 and then a CPC 6128 was to play games. Yes, I had the odd bit of serious software, Mini Office II, Tasword
    6128 and the AMX Mouse package, but you would more likely find me playing
    Get Dexter or Head over Heels on my machine. As a schoolkid at the time
    where obviously, all my peers were kids, well none of us used it for
    anything really serious. So I would disagree that it was a machine used for more serious purposes than the Spectrum or C64.




    "Richard Fairhurst" <richard@systemeD.not> wrote in message news:1fxzb32.1bw8dgttdifk0N%richard@systemeD.not...
    Dunny <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    That's the problem with all you lot that can't take Wheeto's posts - so
    far both you and Mr. Simpson have accused him of posting content that he has not.

    It may not be coincidence that those of us who object strongly to Weetomuncher mostly hail from csa8. His posts are all about retrogaming, which for a large proportion of us on csa8 is of no interest whatsoever.
    (The CPC was always much less of a games machine than either the C64 or
    the Spectrum.)

    Suggestion: Weetomuncher, why not post solely to css and csc, where your posts are evidently more welcome, and where those people from csa8 who
    want to read them can make the effort to go and pick them up?

    --
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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 19:12:43
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:03:40 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:


    Sorry, but I can see two things wrong with these sorts of threads. For the >Amstrad group it can hardly be of any importance for the machine (there
    are occassions where there are some off-topic discussions which are labeled >[i], no attempt was done on these occassions). The second problem is the >comments made in these threads. In a sense it fills these newsgroups with >useless information! Doing that, creates issues in relation to where will
    it end?

    How is it not relevant to the Amstrad group then? Tell us exactly why.

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  • From wildstar@wildstar128@hotmail.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Saturday, July 12, 2003 19:13:18
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote in news:dpo5u-vim.ln1@ridcully.fsnet.co.uk:


    Well... Technically... It CAN'T become moderated.
    Moderation is an attribute of a newsgroup fixed at creation.
    So, depending on which newsgroup you're in, you'd need to create
    another newsgroup along the lines of (in my case)
    comp.sys.sinclair.moderated and make it moderated at that point.



    Actually the destruction and re-creation of comp.sys.cbm or any other unmoderated NG would need to be done in order for that NG to become
    moderated.

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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 08:23:13
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    Sorry, but I can see two things wrong with these sorts of threads. For
    the
    Amstrad group it can hardly be of any importance for the machine (there
    are occassions where there are some off-topic discussions which are
    labeled
    [i], no attempt was done on these occassions). The second problem is the >comments made in these threads. In a sense it fills these newsgroups with >useless information! Doing that, creates issues in relation to where will >it end?

    How is it not relevant to the Amstrad group then? Tell us exactly why.

    Which one's exactly?

    The original poster still hasn't answered my original question!!:
    "Why not update some crummy games like Count Duckula 2 instead of Rainbow Islands, Midnight Resistance, Chase HQ, Silkworm?"

    If they believe that Count Duckula 2 is too hard to update, then won't the others be just as well? Or was it a question of updating the graphics in
    those other games & leaving the rest the same. CD2 has some of the worst graphics I have ever seen on an Amstrad, the rest of those games look just great by my standards for it. It's really a question of why bother?, when
    you could take something like CD2 & easily make it look better.

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From wildstar@wildstar128@hotmail.com to comp.ai.philosophy,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 01:16:57
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Matthew Montchalin <mmontcha@OregonVOS.net> wrote in news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0307121755190.16490-100000@lab.oregonvos.net:


    Try explaining the sudden moderation of comp.ai, then.

    Where is Nukleus (nucleus) when you Really need him?



    Um, Matthew - it can be changed but policies prohibit that now. comp.ai has its status changed back with Mr. Lawrence fellow. Russ Albery's
    predecessor. Until the policies are changed, it will not happen. The status can only be changed at newservers. There could have been a call to
    dissolution and a call for creation. Right now, in order to become
    moderated. We would have to dissolve this newsgroup and then call for the creation of comp.sys.cbm again but this time as a moderated NG. This will
    take probably a year. Since it would take 6 months before you can recreate
    the NG. Secondly, we would have to pass the voting process.

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  • From nucleus@nucleus@in.valid.addr (nucleus) to comp.ai.philosophy,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 03:10:12
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307121755190.16490-100000@lab.oregonvos.net>, Matthew Montchalin <mmontcha@OregonVOS.net> wrote:
    spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:
    |wildstar <wildstar128@hotmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
    Personally, this NG has never remained 100% On-Topic. What is funny OT
    stands for On-Topic just as well as Off-Topic. For clarification, this
    newsgroup is an "UNMODERATED" newsgroup. This means that it is totally
    acceptable to discuss topics which are not 100% on-topic. The generally
    idea is to remain closely on-topic to the theme of the newsgroup as
    possible. So ladies and gentlemen, relax a little. This newsgroup will
    never become a moderated newsgroup and you are technically free to discuss >|> anything you want here.
    |
    |Well... Technically... It CAN'T become moderated.
    |Moderation is an attribute of a newsgroup fixed at creation.

    Try explaining the sudden moderation of comp.ai, then.

    |So, depending on which newsgroup you're in, you'd need to create another >|newsgroup along the lines of (in my case) comp.sys.sinclair.moderated and >|make it moderated at that point.

    Where is Nukleus (nucleus) when you Really need him?

    In your heart.

    Just make sure you know what you are asking for.

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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 14:45:53
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Matthew Westcott" <gasman@raww.org> wrote in message...

    "Why not update some crummy games like Count Duckula 2 instead of
    Rainbow Islands, Midnight Resistance, Chase HQ, Silkworm?"

    Mostly because there isn't an entire generation of gamers with fond
    memories of playing Count Duckula 2, and so a remake of it wouldn't be appreciated by quite so many people. I think you underestimate the
    following these things have - it isn't just an academic exercise in smartening up games purely for hardcore retrogamers familiar with the
    entire 8-bit back catalogue. There are plenty of people out there who left the 8-bits behind long ago and don't know the first thing about emulation, but still enjoy the occasional nostalgia trip.

    Count Duckula 2 could be a good game if all the annoying problems are fixed.

    If they believe that Count Duckula 2 is too hard to update, then won't
    the others be just as well? Or was it a question of updating the
    graphics in those other games & leaving the rest the same.

    It isn't just graphics that get updated in these remakes (although that's certainly a major part of it) - for example, the Speccy-specific (AFAIK) strategy game Chaos has a couple of remakes in varying stages of
    development, aiming to add networked multiplayer mode.

    I don't care much for networked multiplayer rubbish, some Amstrad games
    allowed you to do this (Power Tetris being one I think), but I've never
    really being into that. If others in c.s.a.8 follow the same way then
    that's just the way it is.

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From Dunny@paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 09:02:35
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Sam Gillett wrote:

    Has Bryan Watson accused WheetoMuncher of anything he didn't do?

    Accusing someone of "tourette's" like behaviour - yes. Ross Simpson accused him of posting off-topic threads - and again, I saw no evidence of that.

    Please read more carefully before getting upset. It could elevate
    your blood pressure and cause a stroke. We wouldn't want anything
    like that to happen to you, would we? >:-)

    You certainly don't! I can't begin to imagine how upset you'd be.

    D.



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  • From Dunny@paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 09:09:50
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Ross Simpson wrote:
    "Matthew Westcott" <gasman@raww.org> wrote in message...

    It isn't just graphics that get updated in these remakes (although
    that's certainly a major part of it) - for example, the
    Speccy-specific (AFAIK) strategy game Chaos has a couple of remakes
    in varying stages of development, aiming to add networked
    multiplayer mode.

    I don't care much for networked multiplayer rubbish, some Amstrad
    games allowed you to do this (Power Tetris being one I think), but
    I've never really being into that. If others in c.s.a.8 follow the
    same way then that's just the way it is.

    But that's just the point - Chaos was an 8bit game, so discussing a possible remake (hypothetically) is very much on topic for any 8bit group that chaos was released for (in this case, the speccy). How else would you target the correct audience, how else would you gain information on the game, if not from those who
    played and loved it most?

    How you can claim that remaking any *8bit* game for any modern platform is off-topic for an *8bit* group is beyond me, especially if that game wasn't released for any other platforms.

    Just because *you* don't enjoy networked games, or windows, or PCs, or Linux, or
    Macs, or whatever else you can't get your amstrad to do, doesn't mean that you have the right to speak for the entire group, or any of the other groups that the post may be intended for.

    D.


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  • From Dunny@paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 09:11:20
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Richard Wilson wrote:
    Ross Simpson wrote:

    The original poster still hasn't answered my original question!!:
    "Why not update some crummy games like Count Duckula 2 instead of
    Rainbow Islands, Midnight Resistance, Chase HQ, Silkworm?"

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    However, he *has* been responsible for some excellent debates here in CSS. Are you saying that he's simply trolling by causing these discussions?

    How odd. If I were to pick any faults, I'd complain about the volume of his posts, not the contents - he brings up some interesting topics.

    D.


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  • From gmb@gmb@nomail.com to comp.ai.philosophy,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 02:43:35
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Matthew Montchalin wrote:

    spike1@freenet.co.uk wrote:
    |wildstar <wildstar128@hotmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
    Personally, this NG has never remained 100% On-Topic. What is funny OT stands for On-Topic just as well as Off-Topic. For clarification, this newsgroup is an "UNMODERATED" newsgroup. This means that it is totally acceptable to discuss topics which are not 100% on-topic. The generally idea is to remain closely on-topic to the theme of the newsgroup as possible. So ladies and gentlemen, relax a little. This newsgroup will never become a moderated newsgroup and you are technically free to discuss anything you want here.
    |
    |Well... Technically... It CAN'T become moderated.
    |Moderation is an attribute of a newsgroup fixed at creation.

    Yeah but AI is a "use paper bags to save plastic trees" thing.
    And god save crosspissers! This is still an AI newsgroup,
    is it not?

    George
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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Sunday, July 13, 2003 18:01:29
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:16:12 GMT, Richard Wilson <rich@bitwise-systems.com> wrote:

    Ross Simpson wrote:

    The original poster still hasn't answered my original question!!:
    "Why not update some crummy games like Count Duckula 2 instead of Rainbow
    Islands, Midnight Resistance, Chase HQ, Silkworm?"

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts >flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    What flamewars? He asks questions that are relevant. Does he say "I think the C64 is crap"?, or "Amstrad's were a waste of space"?

    No, he asks questions which I think are very much on-topic, in relation to the groups he posts them in.
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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm on Monday, July 14, 2003 08:30:13
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message...

    [c.s.a.8 snipped!]

    Has Bryan Watson accused WheetoMuncher of anything he didn't do?

    Accusing someone of "tourette's" like behaviour - yes. Ross Simpson
    accused him
    of posting off-topic threads - and again, I saw no evidence of that.

    Perfectly on-topic for your group, we don't just talk about anything with a vintage spin in c.s.a.8 (as the name suggests).

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm on Monday, July 14, 2003 08:52:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Dunny" <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message...

    [c.s.a.8 snipped!]

    It isn't just graphics that get updated in these remakes (although
    that's certainly a major part of it) - for example, the
    Speccy-specific (AFAIK) strategy game Chaos has a couple of remakes
    in varying stages of development, aiming to add networked
    multiplayer mode.

    I don't care much for networked multiplayer rubbish, some Amstrad
    games allowed you to do this (Power Tetris being one I think), but
    I've never really being into that. If others in c.s.a.8 follow the
    same way then that's just the way it is.

    But that's just the point - Chaos was an 8bit game, so discussing a
    possible
    remake (hypothetically) is very much on topic for any 8bit group that
    chaos was
    released for (in this case, the speccy). How else would you target the
    correct
    audience, how else would you gain information on the game, if not from
    those who
    played and loved it most?

    To my knowledge that game doesn't exist for the Amstrad, making a discussion about
    that game off-topic in there! :-)

    How you can claim that remaking any *8bit* game for any modern platform is off-topic for an *8bit* group is beyond me, especially if that game wasn't released for any other platforms.

    That statement clearly states to the group (regardless of using a modern machine, internet telly or whatever) that we're going to take all your
    games & put them on a system that we want to put behind us.

    Personally, I'll get a kick trying to write a few games for CP/M on my
    machine
    because it can be done, yet only a few decent games for it exist & I'm not talking about text adventure games either!

    The messages which Weetomuncher have created should really be discussed in
    the gamehippo messageboard if he want's to see all his favourites running
    on a modern machine or his Web TV.

    Just because *you* don't enjoy networked games, or windows, or PCs, or
    Linux, or
    Macs, or whatever else you can't get your amstrad to do, doesn't mean that
    you
    have the right to speak for the entire group, or any of the other groups
    that
    the post may be intended for.

    On the contrary, I wasn't speaking for the entire group. I'm merely speaking
    of
    my point of view as such. Posting to c.s.a.8 is a mistake, sure there are
    some
    people there who program for modern computers as far as supporting the
    Amstrad
    computer itself. Anything outside of that machine suggests that it has no
    place
    to be there as it is of no use to it. What you do with your modern machines
    is
    of no concern to me, but if deciding to write a bunch of retro games for it
    is
    what you want, then so be it.

    Cheers,
    Ross.


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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 08:57:52
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    The original poster still hasn't answered my original question!!:
    "Why not update some crummy games like Count Duckula 2 instead of
    Rainbow
    Islands, Midnight Resistance, Chase HQ, Silkworm?"

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts >flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    What flamewars? He asks questions that are relevant. Does he say "I think
    the
    C64 is crap"?, or "Amstrad's were a waste of space"?

    Did you miss the C64 jokes or something?

    No, he asks questions which I think are very much on-topic, in relation to
    the
    groups he posts them in.

    Not C.S.A.8 he doesn't. Incidently has anyone been planning on releasing
    some
    ZX81 games for the Jupiter Ace?

    Oh, I'm sorry now the ZX81 users are being left out! :-(

    Long live the Ace! ;-)


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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 00:54:41
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:57:52 +1000, "Ross Simpson" <Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

    "The Starglider" <the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message...

    The original poster still hasn't answered my original question!!:
    "Why not update some crummy games like Count Duckula 2 instead of >Rainbow
    Islands, Midnight Resistance, Chase HQ, Silkworm?"

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts
    flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    What flamewars? He asks questions that are relevant. Does he say "I think >the
    C64 is crap"?, or "Amstrad's were a waste of space"?

    Did you miss the C64 jokes or something?

    Yes, I did (or they were simply not that good, and worthy of a good Starglider flamebait.

    No, he asks questions which I think are very much on-topic, in relation to >the
    groups he posts them in.

    Not C.S.A.8 he doesn't. Incidently has anyone been planning on releasing
    some
    ZX81 games for the Jupiter Ace?

    But where is your evidence that his posts are not relevant to any of the groups he has posted to?

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  • From The Starglider@the_starglider2002@yahoo.co.uk to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Monday, July 14, 2003 00:56:21
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    On 13 Jul 2003 23:09:15 GMT, gasman@raww.org (Matthew Westcott) wrote:

    The Starglider wrote in <k043hvgfnks5h9h7fahkaq09ffr5e6apl0@4ax.com>:

    On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 01:16:12 GMT, Richard Wilson
    <rich@bitwise-systems.com> wrote:

    Weetomuncher never replies to the threads he starts. He simply starts >>>flame-wars, and does not participate any further.

    What flamewars? He asks questions that are relevant. Does he say "I
    think the C64 is crap"?

    Um, yes actually. >http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=28e19b30.0307061609.760749b3%40posting.google.com

    I stand corrected on that point then, but you have to admit, it's a pretty bad attempt. I could teach him many ways to get them annoyed!

    On the basis of that post, I can understand people labelling Weetomuncher
    as a troll, although that's no reason to claim that all his other posts
    are off-topic flamebait.

    Exactly. One post. One. Not many, and the flame post was hardly a huge war starter.

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  • From Ross Simpson@Hi_Mr_Spammer@nowhere.com.au to comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 23:17:53
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    "Frodo Morris" <graham.lee@wadham.ox.invalid.ac.uk> wrote in message...

    So then Weeto's post is still relevant. You want an update. Many of us

    want updates to games. We con't care what system it's on, as long as
    it's a great improvement over the original.

    What a great bunch of back stabbers you are. I'm so happy that you like
    to
    update your computer systems every 3-4 years! ;-)

    Erm, the last time I used a computer to write a letter (e-mail notwithstanding), it was a QL. Do I win a prize?

    Heh! ;-) Sorry, I'm not authorized to hand out prizes! :-(


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