• Brigadoon Software kosher?

    From Snufkin@snufkin@ihug.ko.enzed to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 06:26:23
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    I was investigating installing MacPhoneHome for my iBook. It's a utility
    that claims to be able to find the "exact location" of the computer and
    sends it covertly to a designated email address every time the computer
    is connected to the Internet. But when I attempted to download the
    trial software, Safari spat the dummy and warned that it couldn't
    identify the indentity of "www.pcphonehome.com", noting that it was
    signed by an unknown certification authority, with the attendant risk it
    may be a spoof site.

    Not the sort of thing you want happening with a utility that is going to allowed access to some pretty deep layers of your Mac.

    Comments anyone?

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    IRO
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  • From Tom Harrington@tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 15:07:14
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    In article <snufkin-422BCE.06262320042006@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
    Snufkin <snufkin@ihug.ko.enzed> wrote:

    I was investigating installing MacPhoneHome for my iBook. It's a utility that claims to be able to find the "exact location" of the computer and sends it covertly to a designated email address every time the computer
    is connected to the Internet. But when I attempted to download the
    trial software, Safari spat the dummy and warned that it couldn't
    identify the indentity of "www.pcphonehome.com", noting that it was
    signed by an unknown certification authority, with the attendant risk it
    may be a spoof site.

    Not the sort of thing you want happening with a utility that is going to allowed access to some pretty deep layers of your Mac.

    Comments anyone?

    I have no experience with MacPhoneHome or the company that makes it.
    However based on their list of features, the software has no need of "...access to some pretty deep layers of your Mac." There's nothing on
    their web site that seems to suggest it would need any kind of unusual
    access at all.

    I'm a little skeptical about how exact the location is, but I can't be
    certain enough about it to write them off. They look to be overstating
    the accuracy to me, but that doesn't mean the software wouldn't be
    useful.

    The web site warning is a little weird, not necessarily a sign of
    trouble, but not good either. It's probably no big deal, however having
    said that I think I might want to contact them before buying anything
    through their site.

    --
    Tom "Tom" Harrington
    Macaroni, Automated System Maintenance for Mac OS X.
    Version 2.0: Delocalize, Repair Permissions, lots more.
    See http://www.atomicbird.com/
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  • From void * clvrmnky()@clvrmnky.invalid@hotmail.com.invalid to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 17:47:30
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    Snufkin wrote:
    I was investigating installing MacPhoneHome for my iBook. It's a utility that claims to be able to find the "exact location" of the computer and sends it covertly to a designated email address every time the computer
    is connected to the Internet. But when I attempted to download the
    trial software, Safari spat the dummy and warned that it couldn't
    identify the indentity of "www.pcphonehome.com", noting that it was
    signed by an unknown certification authority, with the attendant risk it
    may be a spoof site.

    I'm guessing the download form you fill out to get the download
    redirects to an HTTPS page, and Safari is notifying you that the
    certificate that is associated with these pages is not verifiable.

    This may be something as simply as you not having a local cert for their
    CA, or they are using a self-signed cert.

    Of course, the lack of a properly setup site certificate has no bearing
    on the quality (or lack thereof) of the software offered by the site.
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  • From Tim Crowley@timmyturmoil@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 15:06:56
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    Snufkin wrote:
    I was investigating installing MacPhoneHome for my iBook. It's a utility
    that claims to be able to find the "exact location" of the computer and
    sends it covertly to a designated email address every time the computer
    is connected to the Internet. But when I attempted to download the
    trial software, Safari spat the dummy and warned that it couldn't
    identify the indentity of "www.pcphonehome.com", noting that it was
    signed by an unknown certification authority, with the attendant risk it
    may be a spoof site.

    Not the sort of thing you want happening with a utility that is going to allowed access to some pretty deep layers of your Mac.

    Comments anyone?

    It gets really good reviews http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9328

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  • From danspam@danspam@f2s.com (Daniel Cohen) to comp.sys.mac.system on Thursday, April 20, 2006 17:26:54
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tim Crowley <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote:

    Snufkin wrote:
    I was investigating installing MacPhoneHome for my iBook. It's a utility that claims to be able to find the "exact location" of the computer and sends it covertly to a designated email address every time the computer
    is connected to the Internet. But when I attempted to download the
    trial software, Safari spat the dummy and warned that it couldn't
    identify the indentity of "www.pcphonehome.com", noting that it was
    signed by an unknown certification authority, with the attendant risk it may be a spoof site.

    Not the sort of thing you want happening with a utility that is going to allowed access to some pretty deep layers of your Mac.

    Comments anyone?

    It gets really good reviews http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9328

    That reference gives a couple of brief positive comments, but the actual article is no more than the company's press release, it's not a review.
    I have seen good reviews.

    My own experience wasn't so great. I downloaded the trial version (and
    one can test it for thirty days before buying, so nothing is lost by
    trying), and it never worked. It was supposed to send an email every
    twentyfour hours as a check that it is working but it never did so. I
    asked them for an uninstaller, as they suggested, but what they sent me
    was not the uninstaller but a file they needed to create an uninstaller.
    I was not impressed. Fortunately, in the course of our discussion, I got
    enough information to be able to uninstall it myself.

    There seem to be enough copies of MacPhoneHome and PCPhoneHome out there
    for it to be a sensible product if it works for you.

    The alternative is Peter Scholes's Undercover (or his earlier LapCop),
    which is somewhat similar, and which seems to work fine.

    Both of them supply the IP address of a computer that is connected to
    the internet, from which the police can obtain from the ISP the physical address of the internet connection.

    Several people have commented that these programs can be sidetracked by reformatting the drive, as even an Open Firmware password can be
    bypassed.

    Having had a laptop stolen, I feel this view is rather like refusing to
    buy a steeringwheel lock for a car just because sufficiently
    sophisticated criminals can overcome it.
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    http://www.decohen.com
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