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Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

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In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Neither - I prefer Camino for OsX 10.4.x

George (The Old Fud)

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In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Neither. I prefer iCab.

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:50:36 -0500, Speedmaster wrote
(in article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>):

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Am liking Shiira at present.

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:45:28 -0400, George Berger <gberger@his.com> said:

In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is
a bit faster.

Neither - I prefer Camino for OsX 10.4.x

Yes, Camino is excellent, but I find myself often coming back to Safari
just to get consistently functioning emacs keybindings in text areas.
True, you can hack embed.jar (or toolkit.jar in FF) to get emacs
keybindings that often work, but they work very inconsistently in many contexts, notably Gmail. On the other hand, you can't use Gmail's rich
text composition option with Safari. So there still isn't a perfect
solution from my POV.

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Tim Lance wrote:

Am liking Shiira at present.

Who /doesn't/ like Shakira?

(Oh, I'm so on today!)

Yeah, yeah, I know, you wrote Shiira.

Put me down for Safari as my favorite axe, with a nod to SunRise
Browser. http://www.sunrisebrowser.com/en/

Ugh, why was mail requested on this? You wouldn't be a SPAMMER, would
you!?

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I use Safari, Camino and sometime IE, have tried FireFox and Sea Monkey and Opera.


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George Berger <gberger@his.com> writes:

In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Neither - I prefer Camino for OsX 10.4.x

Until Camino 1.0 and the addition of CamiTools (with FlashBlock),
I used FireFox about 95% of the time.

There are still a couple of things I'd like to add to Camino -
particularly the full Page Info that FireFox gives us (and
maybe the full AdBlock system, too). But Camino has really
come a long way. It's now my primary browser on both of
my Macs.



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Safari is integrated with the OSX dictionary, so you can place the cursor over a
word (no need to select it), press a keystroke and a small window with a definition pops up. This doesn't work with Firefox 1.5.0.1, at least here. Does
it work with Camino?

BTW every time I load a page on Firefox, Little Snitch (a utility that tells you
if an application on your computer is sending data on your net connection) tells
me that Firefox wants to phone home. If I allow it, FF works. If not, the page doesn't load. Does Mozilla need to know every page you go to?

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:24:36 -0500, John Steinberg wrote
(in article <200420061424363251%seesig@bottom.invalid>):

Tim Lance wrote:

Am liking Shiira at present.

Who /doesn't/ like Shakira?

(Oh, I'm so on today!)

On Shakira? ooooh, I'm gonna tell.

Yeah, yeah, I know, you wrote Shiira.

Put me down for Safari as my favorite axe, with a nod to SunRise
Browser. http://www.sunrisebrowser.com/en/

Ugh, why was mail requested on this? You wouldn't be a SPAMMER, would
you!?

--

Tim
lance_1012@hotmail.com

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Speedmaster wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Neither; I don't have either on my Mac, though I've used Firefox on my Linux
PC - it has some things I like and others I don't. On the Mac, I use
Netscape 7.0 most of the time, have tried iCab, and use IE in a pinch
(usually only to crosscheck something that doesn't work right on Netscape).
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Speedmaster <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

I sort of like Firefox myself, but Safari remains my default browser.

On my dual G5 I find speed differences are pretty negligible, it's
stability and compatibility that I look at. Firefox is not bad, and is certainly well featured, but like Opera, I find it can do *too* much at
times.

I prefer Safari for a number of reasons, first of which is the
simplicity of it, and the lack of clutter around the main window. It
integrates well with OSX, and with my other iApps. It is now very
stable, and the last few updates have meant that it has been 100%
compatible with the sites I visit.

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In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Compatibility is what matters to me and the latest version of Safari
works best for me on my banking, credit card, utility accounts. My bank recently updated its online access and specifically recommends Safari
for Mac users as the browser to use when accessing their accounts
online. Imagine that, a bank that actually recommends Safari.

Other than websites that specifically require Windows IE (and there
aren't many developers THAT stupid left around anyway) the current
version of Safari is the most compatible Mac browser out there, bar none.

I use Safari exclusively these days.

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In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Camino. It's sorta Aqua native, unlike Firefox, and I find it nicer to
use than Safari.
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Elijah Baley <lije@foundation.org> writes:

In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Compatibility is what matters to me and the latest version of Safari
works best for me on my banking, credit card, utility accounts. My bank recently updated its online access and specifically recommends Safari
for Mac users as the browser to use when accessing their accounts
online. Imagine that, a bank that actually recommends Safari.

One place where I found odd behavior differences is when
using a Citrix client. When I hit it via Safari, it wants
to run the browser-internal Java citrix client. When I
hit it via Camino, Camino downloads an '.ica' file and
launches the external Citrix ICA Client.app. Frankly, I
generally prefer using the external client - it's faster -
but I've found no obvious way of controlling which method
of launch takes place other than that Safari does it one
way and Camino the other.

I suspect that the citrix server is looking at the browser's
self-ID header and selecting that way. Perhaps I'll
experiment more later.

Other than websites that specifically require Windows IE (and there
aren't many developers THAT stupid left around anyway) the current

There are. Sadly. Lots of in-house development tools that
I've run into (not sites for the outside world) not only
require IE, but require it on Windows (ie. ActiveX crap).
It's the main reason that, at work, I still need a Windows
machine that I can rdesktop to (from the Linux box on my
own desk).

version of Safari is the most compatible Mac browser out there, bar none.

I've found no way around needing more than one browser on
the Mac. Some sites just don't behave as well with Safari
(or, perhaps, as predictably?) as with FireFox/Camino. I
can get by using either one or the other some 95+% of
the time, but inevitably, I run into something where either
the page just doesn't render the way I expect or the page
wants to do something stupid (ie. inline PDFs) which either
don't work at all or don't work the way I want in one or
the other.


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I find that Safari works well for me most of the time but it does not
allow me to use RealPlayer on BBC radio, which I listen to all the
time. FireFox, however, opens up RealPlayer without any problems. On
the other hand FireFox does not allow me to play any games on Yahoo and
Safari does. So, Safari for games and Firefox for RealPlayer. Wish
there was one that did both.

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In article <1145585279.658161.298320@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Steve403" <hilsteve@gmail.com> wrote:

I find that Safari works well for me most of the time but it does not
allow me to use RealPlayer on BBC radio, which I listen to all the
time. FireFox, however, opens up RealPlayer without any problems. On
the other hand FireFox does not allow me to play any games on Yahoo and Safari does. So, Safari for games and Firefox for RealPlayer. Wish
there was one that did both.

Baloney. I listen to BBC radio and watch BBC video using Safari and
RealPlayer all the time. What version of Safari is being used?

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Safari for no real reason beyond habit and because it's there.

I have Firefox installed for HTML testing, though.
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I've downloaded multi-channel midi files with both browsers. Safari only gets channel 1; Firefox gets all.

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:50:36 +0100, Speedmaster wrote
(in article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>):

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Firefox. I like better the way it saves passwords in forms. It's also lightning fast on my connection.

Paolo

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things they don't want, to impress people they don't like."

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George Berger wrote:

In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari is a
bit faster.

Neither - I prefer Camino for OsX 10.4.x

George (The Old Fud)

Firefox. Neither Camino nor Safari support the 'hold down the button for context menu' which Mozilla does. That used to be apple style, no?
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In article <U9s2g.322$_m5.220@fed1read09>,
Jd Lyall <jdlyall@bounce.net> wrote:

George Berger wrote:

In article <1145551836.055451.63030@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
"Speedmaster" <meisenzahl@gmail.com> wrote:

Just curious, I slightly lean towards Firefox. But I think Safari
is a bit faster.

Neither - I prefer Camino for OsX 10.4.x

George (The Old Fud)

Firefox. Neither Camino nor Safari support the 'hold down the button
for context menu' which Mozilla does. That used to be apple style,
no?

No. Ctrl-click brings up the contextual menu, not holding down the
mouse button.
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In article <timmcn-2BADAD.11315322042006@news.iphouse.com>, Tim
McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

Firefox. Neither Camino nor Safari support the 'hold down the button
for context menu' which Mozilla does. That used to be apple style,
no?

No. Ctrl-click brings up the contextual menu, not holding down the
mouse button.

Like so many things with Apple's it's not consistent. Try clicking and
holding on a dock icon -- you get a contextual menu. In most of the
other apps like Safari? No.

I have a multibutton mouse, so it's not an issue for me, but it's still
a glaring inconsistency in the interface.

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In article <U9s2g.322$_m5.220@fed1read09>,
Jd Lyall <jdlyall@bounce.net> wrote:

Firefox. Neither Camino nor Safari support the 'hold down the button
for context menu' which Mozilla does. That used to be apple style,
no?

No; it is not Apple style. It doesn't do that in the Finder either.
Just about the only place that it does work that I know of is the Dock.

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In article <220420061317583529%garner@netstreet.net>,
Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

Firefox. Neither Camino nor Safari support the 'hold down the
button for context menu' which Mozilla does. That used to be
apple style, no?

No. Ctrl-click brings up the contextual menu, not holding down the
mouse button.

Like so many things with Apple's it's not consistent. Try clicking
and holding on a dock icon -- you get a contextual menu. In most of
the other apps like Safari? No.

Actually, in the Dock, control-click (or right-click) is the alternative
to click-and-hold. Click-and-hold is the default behavior for the
Dock's menus. Technically, they are not contextual menus, but rather,
they're popup menus. Contextual menus show no visible relationship to
the object they are attached to--and in some cases, they're not attached
to an object; for instance, right-click on the desktop or the background
of Finder window.

A dock item's menu has a little triangular area at its bottom, pointing
to the dock item it is associated with.

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In article <220420061317583529%garner@netstreet.net>,
Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> wrote:

In article <timmcn-2BADAD.11315322042006@news.iphouse.com>, Tim
McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

Firefox. Neither Camino nor Safari support the 'hold down the
button for context menu' which Mozilla does. That used to be
apple style, no?

No. Ctrl-click brings up the contextual menu, not holding down the
mouse button.

Like so many things with Apple's it's not consistent. Try clicking
and holding on a dock icon -- you get a contextual menu. In most of
the other apps like Safari? No.

I have a multibutton mouse, so it's not an issue for me, but it's
still a glaring inconsistency in the interface.

The dock is the only place in OS X where this happens, and that's a
recent addition to the interface. Hardly a "glaring" inconsistency.
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