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  • Less Drag-n-Drop in OSX?

    From Johnny Appleseed@1234@567.890 to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 22:46:26
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    Call me a bonehead if there was an announcement about this a couple
    years ago, but does it seem like very few OSX apps support drag-n-drop?

    I refer only to apps where text can be highlighted.
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  • From Martin Crisp@Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 09:38:32
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    On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 8:46:26 +1000, Johnny Appleseed wrote
    (in message <8e30b0f308286cadc5b56c83efbaf569@free.teranews.com>):

    Call me a bonehead if there was an announcement about this a couple
    years ago, but does it seem like very few OSX apps support drag-n-drop?

    I refer only to apps where text can be highlighted.

    Drag-n-drop between & within applications is much more widespread
    in OS X (10.2.x, at least) than in OS 9 & earlier. Or at least so a
    short play on my machine here indicates. [2 apps didn't support it:
    Acrobat Reader & the Finder; over a dozen did.]

    Have Fun
    Martin

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  • From Heath Raftery@hraftery@myrealbox.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 23:51:36
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    Johnny Appleseed <1234@567.890> wrote:
    Call me a bonehead if there was an announcement about this a couple
    years ago, but does it seem like very few OSX apps support drag-n-drop?

    I refer only to apps where text can be highlighted.

    After you highlight the text and click it with
    the mouse, keep the mouse button down for a
    second or two. Then start dragging - I think
    you'll find plenty of d&d available.

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  • From nmassello@nmassello@earthlink.net (Neill Massello) to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 00:29:10
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Johnny Appleseed <1234@567.890> wrote:

    Call me a bonehead if there was an announcement about this a couple
    years ago, but does it seem like very few OSX apps support drag-n-drop?

    I refer only to apps where text can be highlighted.

    To drag something in OS X, it is often necessary to click and hold on it
    for a moment before starting to drag it. I suppose this is the price we
    pay for the fact that OS X allows us to click on buttons, icons, and
    such without selecting them or bringing their windows or applications to
    the front. (For example, you can drag something in Finder's column view
    without selecting it.)

    Also, selected text can be dragged in many applications, such as
    TextEdit, even when the pointer is an I-beam rather than an arrow.
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  • From Johnny Appleseed@1234@567.890 to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 02:57:26
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1fxshzh.1j28un51tdgcowN%nmassello@earthlink.net>, Neill
    Massello <nmassello@earthlink.net> wrote:

    Also, selected text can be dragged in many applications, such as
    TextEdit, even when the pointer is an I-beam rather than an arrow.

    Whew. That I-beam business was driving me nuts.

    Okay, so, click and hoooooooooooold! (Then drag.) ;-)
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  • From gkar@gkar@myrealbox.com (Strider) to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 08:37:35
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    Johnny Appleseed <1234@567.890> wrote:

    Call me a bonehead if there was an announcement about this a couple
    years ago, but does it seem like very few OSX apps support drag-n-drop?

    I refer only to apps where text can be highlighted.

    Drag and Drop works just fine in OS X - just like previous OS versions.
    There have been a few issues with DnD and clipboard transfers between
    Classic and OS X applications. Since I'm no longer using any Classic applications I don't know if that issue has been completely fixed or
    not.
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  • From Doc O'Leary@droleary.usenet@subsume.com to comp.sys.mac.system on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 16:54:29
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1fxshzh.1j28un51tdgcowN%nmassello@earthlink.net>,
    nmassello@earthlink.net (Neill Massello) wrote:

    To drag something in OS X, it is often necessary to click and hold on it
    for a moment before starting to drag it. I suppose this is the price we
    pay for the fact that OS X allows us to click on buttons, icons, and
    such without selecting them or bringing their windows or applications to
    the front.

    No, this is mostly the price we pay for having two APIs without a solid
    effort to get the working the same. Text is immediately draggable in a
    Carbon app but has a delay in Cocoa apps. The delay makes more sense to
    me, because I seldom drag text around and much more frequently want to
    change a selection.

    Contrast that behavior with dragging of document icons in a window title
    bar. Carbon has a delay for that, which Cocoa begins the drag
    immediately. I prefer the immediate drag, since there is really nothing
    else I would be doing with the icon, and it annoys the hell out of me if
    the *window* becomes the drag object because I didn't wait long enough.

    So, on my score card, Carbon apps suck and Cocoa apps don't. Because of
    that, I pretty much avoid most Carbon apps, especially if they're
    nothing more than OS 9 apps that were hastily ported to OS X.
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